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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 11:48 PM
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Al Qeada Torture Manual - WARNING GRAPHIC
Al Qeada Torture Manual - WARNING GRAPHIC

Drawings from an Al Qaeda Torture manual found during a raid in May, 2007. Also, the last few pictures show torture victims that were freed during the raid.


http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/200753123558.aspx?comments=Y

There's some interesting videos on this page ~~~>>

http://www.strategypage.com/messageboards/board480.asp
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 11:52 PM
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1. How covenient...
I'm not going to look at the pictures before going to bed. However, I'm so cynical that I have to question the true source of the manual. It stinks of black ops shit.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:13 AM
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7. I looked. I don't buy it either.
Nope. :shrug:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:26 AM
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11. I wonder if 'fat osama' or 'skinny osama' left it behind after a video shoot?
:shrug:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 11:53 PM
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2. These have already been dismissed on DU as actual CIA documents
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 11:53 PM by DS1
take that as you will.

:eyes:

anyway, this should be an interesting thread

:popcorn:




edit: heh, if someone was going to ask me for a link, see post #1
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:05 AM
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4. Have they? This was the first time I've ever seen the site, myself.
I must have missed the discussion before...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:08 AM
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5. keep looking in this thread
see how easy DU debunks everything that's anti-Muslim at the drop of the hat?

See. There's no possible way any of that is true. The car is wrong!

:sarcasm:
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:25 AM
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10. I see what you mean...
I don't know if there's any merit to it or not, I just found it interesting, along with a few other videos there...
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:03 AM
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3. BS.
The car illustrated in the second group of photos doesn't look like something an Arab would depict. It looks like a 1970's American car.

I wonder what a test of the paper's origins would show.....

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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:09 AM
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6. Were you expecting a camel? Maybe a box truck for a truck bomb?
What, exactly, would an "Arab depict"?

They still drive 1950's model cars in Cuba....
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:40 AM
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13. An al-qaeda arab would depict a more modern & foreign car, not a gas guzzler.
Iraq isn't Cuba. They've imported plenty of autos in the last 20 years despite the embargo & besides I doubt there are many '78 Dusters still running on Arab St. if there ever were any.

What's point of the alleged "manual"? There's no instruction, no how-to, no diagrams, nothing informative. Just gory images that look good in the Western press. It reeks of pure propaganda.

What's the source of this manual? I hope there's a better source than a US military source because so far their batting average on truth in the last 4 years is about .002.

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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:59 AM
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15. Well, that site looks to be pretty hardcore warnography...
After looking at the page (The Prediction Market Strategy Page) where they're betting on things like when there will be the next terrorist attack to the page called "How to Make War Headlines", whatever the heck that means, I decided to back away slowly from that one... yikes!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 02:29 AM
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17. 'Were you expecting a camel?"
:spray:
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:19 AM
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8. Your tax $$ hard at work.
psyops campaign of the week - yawn.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:23 AM
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9. Did we outsource Gitmo and Abu Ghraib?
nt
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:38 AM
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12. This is WAY too hokey to be believed
I mean seriously... and why are they torturing people again? To get information of what? For their organized military campaign of trench warfare?

"Who do the Americans work for? What is the secret formula for Coca Cola?!?!?!"

I mean come on :eyes:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 01:05 AM
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16. haha that's pretty good
trench warfare* - nice touch
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:54 AM
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14. Interesting to note that in the pictures where the
perpetrators of torture are depicted, they do not have beards, and yet most of the depicted victims have full beards.

The growing of a beard may not be mandatory, but it is certainly encouraged for fundamentalist Muslims.

My take is that if anything, these are drawings meant to describe what could happen to a Al Qaeda member if caught, perhaps as propaganda against those that oppose them or as a warning to those that would join (what they must be prepared to endure).

In any event, from these meager drawings, its impossible to say that this is a "how to" book on conducting a torture session.
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