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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:00 AM
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Someone finally did it--- Tax credits for stillborn
Slip slip slip

For all taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 2008, for each birth for which a certificate of birth resulting in stillbirth has been issued under section 193.165, RSMo, a taxpayer may claim the exemption under subsection 1 of this section only in the taxable year in which the stillbirth occurred, if the child otherwise would have been a member of the taxpayer's household.

http://www.house.mo.gov/bills071/biltxt/intro/HB0816I.HTM
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:03 AM
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1. Wow!
Let's let the dead VOTE! and the stillborn after 18 years!
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:10 AM
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6. It's kinda of unintended tax deduction
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 02:12 AM by azurnoir
Voting wasn't nearly half of the stillborn were "doing" after 18 years; they were getting credit cards and checking accounts buying cars and other items, some lead very full financial "lives",
I think the law was to stop that, also there were terra' concerns I'm sure
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:06 AM
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2. You see the Fundie max
Credits for a stillborn. What a sick piece of shit.

Of course if the child had been born to a poor person, they would have harassed the mother, and told her, her immorality and the bastard was her problem?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:08 AM
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4. How about a tax credit
for people who want to have kids but can't afford to even with a tax credit.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:40 AM
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8. Here you go......
Authorizes an individual income tax credit for the costs of receiving human infertility treatments

http://www.house.mo.gov/bills071/bills/HB559.htm
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:49 AM
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11. Damn straight.....
It is very sick.
RTL has a new strategy. Skip sending it out for a vote, and get conflicting laws in front of the SC.
They are being very very clever.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:08 AM
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3. Ick.
By definition, a stillborn baby was never alive outside of the womb. To give a tax credit for a stillbirth sets a rather icky legal precedent.

I've had pregnancy losses myself, so nobody jump my shit for being insensitive or something, because that's not my intention at all. It just seems like a bad idea to risk eroding women's rights in order to give a small number of families a very small state tax break.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:11 AM
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7. I would say this is one sick piece of legislation n/t
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:45 AM
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9. That icky legal precedent is their intention for sure
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 02:46 AM by loyalsister
It is very scary.
Pass this one, outlaw abortion, then get it in front of THIS SC.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:10 AM
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5. Rick Santorum must be friends with Matt Bartle
There is no other explanation.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:47 AM
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10. in the case of stillbirth there are funeral expenses
I don't have a problem with this, although the coldness of the "otherwise would have been a member of the taxpayer's household" is a little offputting and sad.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:05 AM
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12. All deaths have funeral expenses
but the dependent is not claimed when they were not actually living.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:07 AM
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13. It's expensive being pregnant
not just medical expenses, but all the crap you need to get in the expectation that a baby will be born.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:19 AM
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14. Totally a-ok with me.
All the tax write-offs the mega corporations get. A woman who gives birth to a dead child probably couldn't care less about the tax deduction, though. I can't imagine actual parents fighting for this one. It's probably written with some ulterior motive. But nonetheless I'm fine with them getting this small benefit. It does cost a lot of money to prepare for a child.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:32 AM
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15. I really don't have a problem with this at all.
The parent(s) have likely spent a bundle of money preparing for the new arrival - including medical expenses - only to have it stillborn. This tax credit could help them offset some of those costs.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 03:58 AM
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16. Sounds like a good idea, actually.
The mother will have gone through the expenses of pregnancy and delivery, often with more medical problems than normal, and the family will have the expenses of the funeral.

You can't reduce such a tragedy to money; but still it seems as valid a reason as others for a tax credit.
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