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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:15 PM
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Kerry on the Iraq debate: "There is a complete disconnect in what is being talked about here."
You can watch Senator Kerry's recent floor speech here.

Excerpt:

We have had a lot of colleagues who have referenced the fact that the escalation of sending more troops into Iraq was to give Iraqi politicians the chance to be able to make up their own minds about their political future. And we have heard a lot of people talk again and again and again about how there is no military solution. I know what happens in the sort of ``speech-ifying'' that goes on here, and the repetition, I guess, of some of these facts. They kind of get glossy. They just sort of slide by people and people don't really focus on the real meaning or the impact of what is being said as a result. But the fact is, the President very clearly told America the rationale for sending more troops was not to go out and secure a whole bunch of communities for the sake of having a general come here and say we know how to secure a community.

A lot of us, in discussing the so-called surge, said at the time that this is not going to be the thing that changes the fundamental dynamics that are now ruling Iraq absent an increase in significant political diplomacy and political strategic thinking. And in that, we have been proven 100 percent correct. The Iraqis have not made fundamental decisions.

Let me ask you, Mr. President, what is the relationship between more security and making a decision about how you distribute oil revenues? Are you telling me they can't get into a room and figure out the Kurds have this much, the south has this much, the Sunni triangle doesn't have any? The Sunni are 20 percent of the population, so we have to have some revenue going to them from a national basis. Do you need security to make that decision? There is a complete disconnect in what is being talked about here.

Do you need security to decide whether you are going to allow people who were formerly members of the Baath Party, but who were there because they were coerced or because it was the only way to stay alive but who never took part in the excesses of Saddam Hussein, do you need security to make the decision--and I am not saying you can get them all to go into the mainstream of the life of Iraq--but to make the decision as to whether you are going to let them go in? You need security to do that? No. You need a political will.


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:32 PM
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1. I really appreciate Sen. Kerry keeping up the fight in the face of
so many tone deaf people.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 09:25 AM
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11. The RW message machine has been working to drown out Kerry's voice for 35 yrs
and now they easily manipulate the left to further that goal.

Gullibility on both sides will usually dominate the result.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:34 PM
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2. Thanks, Prosense. That speech has so much meat on it, I'm
still chewing on all of its wisdom.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:04 PM
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3. How much do the Repubs care about Iraq? Kerry on the Repub's "political stunt"
But I also asked that we all recognize that the emotion behind that ad is an emotion shared by the American people: frustration--frustration as we head into the 5th year of being told one thing about Iraq and finding out another. That is why we should be having a real debate and a real discussion about the policy in Iraq rather than trying to score partisan points over the politics of Iraq. It is as insulting as it is illuminating that in a week-long debate in which each side can offer just five amendments, the Republicans would waste one of their chances to change a broken policy by choosing instead to embrace a political stunt.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:48 PM
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4. Excellent speech
I just wish some of the Republicans would really listen to it.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:41 PM
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5. He's right on target and he's keeping up the pressure.
Democrats have to keep driving home "Iraq, Iraq, Iraq" until the Republicans vote with them just to shut them up. The bastards are going to have to eat, sleep and dream "END the WAR" until there is a vote Bush can't veto. It's not going away. Let them waste their time getting on stupid, political stunts. It's not going to change the hearts and minds of America. It's only going to make Republicans look stupider than they already look.

What a contrast it is to hear Kerry speak with clarity and reason after listening to Republicans babble on about utter nonsense. It's about time someone called them on their disconnect. And JK does it beautifully.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:44 PM
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6. K&R
:kick:
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iilana X Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 11:34 PM
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7. Thanks for posting.
I haven't been able to catch many of his speeches lately. It's good to know Kerry's still in there fighting.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:07 AM
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8. This entire speech was excellent! n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:47 AM
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9. Confuzing as hell
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 08:48 AM
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10. Kick! n/t
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