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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:18 PM
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Unprecedented SF study find pot helps ease pain
Unprecedented SF study find pot helps ease pain
Sabin Russell, Chronicle Medical Writer

Monday, February 12, 2007


(02-12) 12:59 PST SAN FRANCISCO -- Doctors at San Francisco General Hospital reported today that HIV-infected patients suffering from a painful nerve condition in their hands or feet obtained substantial relief by smoking small amounts of marijuana in a carefully constructed study funded by the State of California.

Although the study itself was small, it is the first of its kind to measure the therapeutic effects of marijuana smoking while meeting the most rigorous requirements for scientific proof -- a so-called randomized, double-blinded placebo-controlled trial.

As such, the results of the trial are being hailed by medical marijuana advocates as the most solid proof to date that smoking the herb can be beneficial to patients who might otherwise require opiates or other powerful painkillers to cope with a condition known as peripheral neuropathy.

Federal agencies oppose the use of marijuana for medical purposes on the grounds that it is harmful and that there is no scientific evidence to support medical use of marijuana for treatment in the United States.

"It's time to wake up and smell the data,'' said Bruce Mirkin, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project, a group advocating legalization of medicinal use of the drug. "The claim that the government keeps making that marijuana is not a safe or effective medicine doesn't have a leg to stand on.''

more...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/12/BAG6KO3BLP5.DTL

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:38 PM
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1. It has worked better for "my friend" than any of those
brain-numbing pain pills the doctors gave her.


Free the Weed!


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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:40 PM
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2. kick
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 04:52 PM
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3. INCREASE the PAIN!
Our government has wished to INCREASE the PAIN of its citizens. "Smoke a joint, Go to Jail".

Perhaps, at some unknown future time, governments can figure out how to INCREASE the JOY of their citizens.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:29 PM
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5. It's like the government says "Let them eat cake and suffer to the hilt"
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 08:04 PM
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20. The government would have no problem with me going painfully blind from glaucoma.
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 08:04 PM by Zhade
Sadly, it seems a few really ignorant DUers would, too.

DEA - Disappearing Eyesight Acceptable.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 08:52 PM
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23. Those DUers deserve to be beaten with a hose n/t
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:34 PM
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28. I'd reather just help educate them.
If they refuse to even acknowledge facts once presented and backed up, though, then the noodle comes out!

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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:47 PM
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33. I wish I knew where ALL the 2008 candidates stood on this issue.
:shrug:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:06 PM
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4. hell, I could have told them that . . . n/t
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:36 PM
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14. Yep... they spend money on these studies to get answers
that any pot smoker could tell you from experience. But we can't trust those stoners now can we... :eyes:
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:30 PM
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6. Peripheral neuropathy afflicts diabetics, too.
Now there's a large patient/customer base for this therapy. :)
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:37 PM
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7. San Francisco Values, I'm telling ya!
:applause:
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:51 PM
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8. My 82 yo mil was prescribed pot in BC
she was suffering from terminal cancer and they prescribed it to ease pain and increase her appetite. And it was 'FREE' - thanks to National Health System there.

So while SF conducts redundant studies, more humane nations are implementing the already known benefits.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 08:05 PM
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21. Man, I can't WAIT to move to Vancouver!
NT!

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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:58 PM
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9. "Drug pusher" paranoiacs in 5, 4 ,3, 2 1....
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:59 PM
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10. Let me say this I know for sure. I have PAD and it is very painful, take hydrocodone
4 times daily and with a little herb thrown in sometimes I don't need the pills at all
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:22 PM
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11. Wow, cannabis is a safe and effective pain reliever? Who knew?
EVERYONE...

EVERYWHERE...

SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME!!!!!

That's who.

To paraphrase the great 20th-century philosopher, M. Python:
"At this point, even the US Media began to sit up and take notice."

And to paraphrase Nixon's Chief-of-Staff:
"We paid for the studies, we saw the data, we KNEW it posed no health risk.
But since we couldn't outlaw Rock and Roll, we couldn't outlaw "being young"
or "being BLACK", we settled for outlawing the common denominator shared
by those three groups: recreational marijuana usage.
"
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:40 PM
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15. even among proto-humans, its so easy a caveman
can do it.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:28 PM
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12. Keeps me from going blind and clawing my eyes out.
Helped more than anything from Big Pharma in regulating my clinical depression.

Let's just break it down - it's a beneficial plant that's been used SAFELY for tens of thousands of years.

Just stop the lies, free the prisoners, and legalize already, for sanity's sake!

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:31 PM
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13. Studies are important, but all I can say is "duh!" It also doesn't damage the liver,
and it's not dangerous in the way that narcotic painkillers are. (Ask Rush Limbaugh about that one!)
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:39 PM
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30. Hugely important fact wrt to the liver
In the mid 90's, I was diagnosed w/an unknown liver disease at ............. San Francisco General. I was put on a national donor list and told I had three months to live.

A year or so later and after moving 3,000 miles away, I discovered the problem myself. I had been taking Dilantin for seizures and it was killing my liver. I stopped taking the Dilantin (it din't prevent seizures anyway) and my liver rejuvenated.

Please everyone that is taking meds - have your blood levels checked regularly, as well as your liver.

Daily I live w/neuropathic pain and spasms due to paralysis. The ONLY thing that gives me some relief is pot.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:16 PM
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31. I'm glad you were so aggresive about your own health,
and that it paid off.

Too often the message from the health community is: "hush now, and remain passive." Kinda crazy, really.
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:40 PM
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16. There is nothing unprecedented about this study.
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 06:41 PM by Lurking Dem
They did one in Scotland for peripheral neuropathy almost a decade ago. It, too, showed marijuana relieve neuropathy pain.

Sadly, the US decided that was not okay and I should take combinations of morphine sulfate, darvocet, and either valium or zanaflex. That, apparently, is okay.





edit typo
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BrewerJohn Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:06 PM
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17. My neighbor is a diabetic with peripheral neuropathy
along with other conditions. The list of meds he takes daily for all this is amazing for its length
alone. Something tells me he would be much better served by being able to take a toke
now and then for the pain, and shorten that list.

Legalization has to happen. If enough people wake up from the propaganda and demand it, it will.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:31 PM
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18. No way the drug companies will allow it to be legalized. Fuck them all.
My daughter has chronic nausea and can't hold anything down for sometimes a week at a time. But fuckhead Bush and his cronies could care less. They'd much rather we pay $7,700 a month for Zofran that also doesn't work.
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 08:50 PM
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22. I see that there is an injectable version of Zofran
But there are several other oral versions.

Does anyone else think that an oral medication for nausea doesn't make a lot of sense?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 08:03 PM
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19. Another kick for truth.
I've seen some rather badly misinformed posts on DU today about how "dangerous" and "harmful" marijuana is, so here's another kick to help correct those DUers' misrepresentations.

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 08:55 PM
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24. LEGALIZE IT NOW!!!!!!!
Its illegality continues to be one of the most ignorant, illogical and monumentally nonsensical acts of humankind.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:35 PM
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29. You said it!
NT!

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:00 PM
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25. Not if you're dragged off to the slammer for smoking it, it doesn't.
I'd imagine that can be quite painful.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:04 PM
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26. K and R!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 09:11 PM
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27. relieves the problems of menopause
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:42 PM
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32. It leads to a better cure rate in Hepatitis C.
Due increased abililty to tolerate medication side effects.

Now that can save $300,000 for a liver transplant and $50k a year for meds.

And with 4.5 million Americans HCV+, we are taking a lot of money.

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