To anyone assuming Hillary's lead is a sure thing...

[RiverStone]

Don't get too comfortable.




In fact, you may want to keep your eyes on the road ahead; you might be surprised! :)

[BlooInBloo]

1. Nah. DUers think Clinton's lead is a media hoax.

[Lerkfish]

8. more acccurately, many DUers are tired of the hubris of clinton supporters and

their ardent insistence the primary is already over before its happened.

[BlooInBloo]

10. (shrug) You say it your way, I'll say it mine... I got no dog in the race...

... as I am neither a fan nor a hater.

[MethuenProgressive]

12. Quote? Link? to any DU post saying "the primary is already over"?

The hubris of the HillHaters is monumental.
Thanks, at least, for not using "shrill hen-like cackle" in your post...

[Lerkfish]

15. I address actual issues, not the "cackle" and I've said so in other threads

there are more valid reasons to be leery of Clinton: her vote and subsequent lame defense of her vote for the Kyl-Lieberman, her health care program (edwards is no better, btw) that guarantees income to private insurers but doesn't assure quality of care.

do you care to discuss either of those two issues?

[Lerkfish]

17. sure. here you go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3568182&mesg_id=3568182

balls in your court, then. I suppose I can expect a response from you, right?

[MethuenProgressive]

24. One joke poll? Regarding *Ron Paul*? = "hubris, ardent insistence"???

:rofl:
Oh well that proves you're absolutely correct when you typed:

"more acccurately, many DUers are tired of the hubris of clinton supporters and
their ardent insistence the primary is already over before its happened."

Lordy, DU just cracks me up some days!

[Lerkfish]

32. you should be pretty cracked by now, then.

I notice you still avoid discussing issues I mentioned in the other post

[RiverStone]

27. Yes, and the fact Hillary's candidacy has received a disproportional...

Amount of coverage relative to her Dem competitors.

I see it as the tail of the corporate MSM wagging the dog. Last week Rob Reiner, Hollywood Director endorses Hillary and there is a 3 paragraph write on about it on CNN's Political Ticker. Nothing against Rob, but it seems as if the media seeks anything to "promote" her candidacy. She is the media darling with the big 3.

I do see the MSM either overtly or purposefully trying to marginalize the time and attention of other candidates. When I have tossed out that notion before, Hillary supporters have suggested that my observations are that of a conspiracy theorist - that indeed NO media bias exists.

Of course, perception is everything.

As an aside, I won't call out any DUer specifically (as I think that is against the DU forum rules) but I have observed that HRC supporters both here and elsewhere are touting and repeating the MSM's
assumption that she is already the anointed one.

[TahitiNut]

18. You often use "DUers" to mean "people other than me."

It reminds me of folks who talk about "people" as though they AREN'T one. Fascinating. :rofl:

[BlooInBloo]

20. No, I've never once used it in that fashion.

[Clintonista2]

2. Umm please point to one example of a HRC supporter claiming it's a "sure thing"

The only people I see using the term "sure thing" and "inevitable", are non Clinton supporters setting up the straw man.

[aquart]

3. Lotta deliberate disinformation being planted here.

Ignore it all and vote for the primary candidate of YOUR choice, nobody else's.

[King Coal]

4. Hilary is bad news. Again. More. Bad. News.

[aquart]

5. Well, thank you for the facts and links.

Oh wait.

[King Coal]

6. Here you go.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1950933&mesg_id=1950957

[mmonk]

7. This is probably better suited for GD politics

That's where many of the HRC brag posts are anyway. But carry on.

[MethuenProgressive]

9. Quote? Link? to any DU post saying "Hillary's lead is a sure thing"?

I notice you can't see Dennis in that mirror...
:rofl:

[dmallind]

13. Well SOME objects

are still a damn sight further away than can be seen by the naked eye, but I do have to credit the OP for a cute and original way to post a hackneyed message.

[Lerkfish]

23. sure, here you go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3568182&mesg_id=3568182

now, what say you, then?

[MethuenProgressive]

25. I say, see post 24

:boring:

[Pachamama]

11. Two Words....

Howard Dean

[KingFlorez]

14. Whatever

All I know is if she wins the primary, she will win the Presidency.

[TahitiNut]

21. I gotta love folks who can't distinguish between 'fact' and 'opinion' ...

... (and 'knowing' vs. 'believing') particularly when they prognosticate. :rofl:

[Blackhatjack]

16. Once a candidate is assumed to be the winner, voters begin to examine them more carefully...

There is a ton of opposition research on HRC that will be used against her.

However, so far she has maintained some cover in 'running ' against the other Democratic Candidates.

She may be in for some rough questioning relating to her positions on issues she has so far been evasive about, and I would expect the character attacks to appear more frequently the close we get to the Democratic Convention.

IMHO her failure to clearly articulate positions on issues that are important to liberal Democrats will begin to eat into her lead in the polls. Whether she will fall back to the pack is another question given she has the most money and resources needed to run a campaign.

[oasis]

19. Riiiight.........and Dennis K. is Seabiscuit.

:eyes:

[RiverStone]

28. a horse is a horse...

And do you see any media bias which seems to be promoting a Hillary Presidential candidacy as a foregone conclusion?

My point is this race is far, far from over. Sadly, DK's views are marginalized by the MSM that see's him not as a serious contender; whereas I for one see him as BEST representative of a true Democratic platform. I also think Obama and Edwards are far more competitive then some assume (despite the MSM polls). Iowa may radically rock the boat.

I'm just not going to handicap the race. The MSM has already placed their bet - and it is obvious.

At the very least, I hope Dennis plays an important role setting the platform at the Dem Convention -at the very best, he will surprise people and do better than the MSM is giving him credit for.

[oasis]

29. The media bases their predictions on national polls. If DK led in the polls,

he'd get the press.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

22. I see

DK everywhere in that mirror.

[Nye Bevan]

26. No, she couldn't possibly blow a lead like that

That would be like a baseball team having a 7 game lead with 17 left to play, and then not making the playoffs.

:cry:

[mmonk]

31. Exactly.

[book_worm]

30. luckily primary voters will choose our nominee and no votes have yet been cast

I will support whoever the voters of the primaries choose.