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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:41 PM
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McCain: "The Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation."
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:42 PM
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1. John, Fuck off
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:42 PM
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Wrong.
Just wrong.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:42 PM
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2. Also, the Zeroth Amendment protects against Space Aliens.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:43 PM
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3. Once again:
Treaty of Tripoli, bitch!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:43 PM
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4. What a crock of pandering taurine metabolic byproducts.
I'm referring to both the statement and the picture.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:44 PM
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5. Which Constitution was that?
Did I miss something?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:56 PM
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15. NOT the one he is sworn to uphold n/t
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:45 PM
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6. US Treaty With Tripoli:
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:51 PM
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10. Said treaty was also approved by unaminous consent
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 03:52 PM by hobbit709
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:47 PM
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7. I must have been absent on the day that lesson was taught when i was in law school.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:49 PM
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8. I believe the Constitution also established John McCain as a desperate, pandering nutball
Go look, it's in there.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:49 PM
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9. Okay, then, asshole, act like - feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and provide homes for the poor.
If you want us to be Christian, jackoff, then you better be willing to pay the price.

As Bonnheoffer said, "When Christ calls a man, he bids him come and die."

If we're really gonna be a Christian nation, we're gonna have to have a major policy change and shit in our culture - and it's gonna begin with getting the jackoff Republican fake Christians out of here.

Hey - McCain - the only party that comes close to a Christian ethic is the Democratic one!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:10 PM
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22. Good one n/t
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 05:47 PM
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31. If Republicans keep claiming our government got founded on Christian principles then
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 05:49 PM by liberaldemocrat7
they better allow government to take care of the poor and those who need help.

I find it hypocritical how Republicans say the government appears founded on Christian principles and then in the next breath they say Jesus never meant for governemnt to help he poor attempting to justify Republicans mean spiritedness and their decades hatred of keeping taxes at a level so government can take care of the less fortunate.


Republicans tend to act very selective in their so called Christian principles. I call them predaTORY capitalist christians.

Yes I capitalized TORY as in the TORY party of Britain and their wacky mean spirited notions of what government should not do.


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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:53 PM
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11. Right especially the part about "There shall be NO religious tests" Hey john FO
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:54 PM
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12. He's lost his mind.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:54 PM
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13. Oy. Senile.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:55 PM
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14. For lying about the U.S. history and Constitution in order to alter the government
McCain is a traitor.

Plain and simple -- a traitor.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:56 PM
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16. Did anybody think to ask McCain exactly where the Constitution does that?
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scorpiogirl Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:58 PM
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17. God damn this shit pisses me off!
NO, IT FUCKING WASN'T!!!!
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:59 PM
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18. John "I was a POW" McCain
Suck my balls.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:59 PM
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19. Saying that is better than wearing a red sweater?

:shrug:

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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:00 PM
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20. I did a search
I did a text search for "Christ" in the US Constitution at this link (which would have picked up the terms Christ, Christian, or Christianity). The text was not found in the document.

That means that McCain is at best ignorant of what the Constitution says, or he's just a flat out pandering liar. My vote is for the latter, but he is clearly unfit to hold public office, much less the Presidency, in either case.

And that photo of him in the OP is just scary! Look at those eyes! :scared:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:05 PM
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21. McCain is running for the Fuhrership, not the Presidency.
McCain, by implication is an anti-semite. McCain is saying that ONLY Christians should be allowed to be the President. No Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Shintos, Universalists, Agnostics, etc....
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:13 PM
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23. Wheres the tolerance? The love? nt.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:33 PM
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24. There goes whatever ounce of respect I had left for the man!
The fucking arrogance!

I'm deeply offended by his comments!!!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:40 PM
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25. McLame is pandering liar, oh & also a freakin' Hypocrite.
John McCain Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:41 PM
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26. he's being tortured again
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:41 PM
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27. What a pandering dumbass. nm
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:54 PM
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28. Yes, but Episcopal or Baptist, John? n/t
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 04:55 PM
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29. from the partial transcript on Beliefnet
"Q: A recent poll found that 55 percent of Americans believe the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation. What do you think?
McCain: I would probably have to say yes, that the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation. But I say that in the broadest sense. The lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door doesn't say, “I only welcome Christians.” We welcome the poor, the tired, the huddled masses. But when they come here they know that they are in a nation founded on Christian principles."

So by "Christian nation" he meant "a nation founded on Christian principles".


http://www.beliefnet.com/story/220/story_22001_1.html
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 05:42 PM
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30. Not at the law school I graduated from, it wasn't.
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:15 AM
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32. What's that smell?.....Desperation...
Pandering to the fundies might work if Ghoulianni looks like too much of a lock for the Dobson crowd.
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