Biden, Dodd on Ahmadinejad - "Madman", "Thug"

[Zandor]

March 5, 2007

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden today called Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a "madman" and raised the possibility that he could be assassinated by foes within his country...Biden called Ahmadinejad "that wacko guy, the crazy president,"

...Dodd, also a presidential hopeful, said the United States needs to avoid talking with Ahmadinejad and called him "a thug."...

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070305/NEWS/70305076


Two good men, and they are right on.

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[AuntPatsy]

4. Sounds about right to me.

[Zandor]

5. Biden and Dodd aren't right-wing n/t

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[wuushew]

2. March 5th 2007?

Did we run out of news? :shrug:

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[Zandor]

8. Ahmadinejad's recent visit and the increased buzz on Biden and Dodd

Make this relevant IMO.

[Mrs. Overall]

26. Now that I've gotten to know you better, Z-Man, wouldn't it be more consistent

for us to pray for Ahmadinejad rather than applaud others who call him mean names?

Oops, I forgot, sometimes you call for prayer and sometimes you say it's better just to bomb the bastards.

In this a prayin' thread or a bombin' thread? Which is it?

[blondeatlast]

38. Bombing. Note the absence of MLK, Jr. and Ghandi in the sig line.

Also, no mention of Hillary or any "Democrat of substance" since up until now, he considered neither Biden nor Dodd to be of substance.

[Mrs. Overall]

48. Yes, good observation.

[blondeatlast]

9. LOL!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[AuntPatsy]

3. Wow, seems he has much in common with our president.....

Now if they would just have the guts to call him the same then and only then could they get any credit from me for speaking the truth,..its easy to call someone names like that when you know they cannot come back at ya....

Kind of cowardly to say it about one but ignore the reality that we have the same.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

17. lol! When you hear these descriptions. wacko guy, crazy president and thug,

Ahmadinejad is not the first person that comes to my mind.

[jimshoes]

40. Really, I find it very hard

to get all worked up over a guy who wears a leisure suit jacket. Arch villain just doesn't jump right out at ya.

[PatSeg]

24. Regarding Bush

As reported by the New York Times, Biden said of President Bush, "“This guy is brain dead. I know I’ll be quoted, I’ll be killed for that.”

A little more accurate than "madman" under the circumstances.

[cali]

10. I have a serious question for you?

What good does type of overblown language do? What's the point?

[Zandor]

11. Ask Biden and Dodd

But they are right on in terms of Ahmadinejad. IMO.

Truth is a powerful thing. You'd rather they be silent about this creep?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. I'd rather Biden and Dodd go after Bush.

Bush is a lot worse than Ahmadinejad.

But since you agree with Biden and Dodd the question's valid for you as well. So why don't you answer?

[Zandor]

15. Asked and answered n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Where?

Certainly not post #11.

I don't see you calling Gurbanguly Berdimuhammedow a madman and a thug after his recent talk at Columbia.

Why is that?

[Jacobin]

19. As compared to our very own Bush

I would think the rhetoric is certainly overblown; more importantly, he doesn't run the country. He's a figurehead.

[cali]

20. I'd rather they didn't use meaningless and inflammatiory

language. All language like this does, is to help build a case. Not to mention that Ahmadinejad wields very little power.

Yes, I'm far prefer they didn't say crap like that.

[Zandor]

21. You think they're building a case? n/t

[cali]

29. I think language like that fuels bush's case

I don't think either Dodd or Biden intends it to, but it does. Aside from that, language like that is just fucking meaningless. The U.S. does business with thugs and madmen every day.

[Zandor]

34. So you just object to name calling in general? n/t

[cali]

52. I object to politicians using language like that,, yes.

And as a matter of fact, I try and avoid certain language entirely. I avoid using ghe word evil. I try not to characterize anyone as scum or vermin, no matter how much I detest them. I don't think in public affairs it's ever helpful. I don't call people Nazis or good germans. When I write to the editor, I never name call.

[Zandor]

70. Was Hitler eveil? n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

71. Well, he did cast a lot of asparagus.

That series moran.

[uppityperson]

73. HUGH!!!!111

duzy

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

74. Zandor's screwn.

[uppityperson]

75. Last night

I had dinner at a friend's house and had vegan chocolate brownie cake for dessert. It was really good, even though I prefer pie. Brownies are enough different from cake to deserve a category of their own.

[cali]

77. In the simplest way. But it doesn't explain him

or why he did what he did. And that's why I stay away from that word.

[H2O Man]

76. Ha! n/t

[cali]

78. right back at you. n/t

[AuntPatsy]

30. I agree with you, obviously there is a reason this is being repeated without

adding how little power the man can actually wield inside his own country. It seems it is falsely being fed to the American public that he is Iran, makes one go hmmmmm.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. Erect bogeyman, wave flag, send in the bombers.

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken

[blondeatlast]

14. And LAST week, both voted against the Bush-enabling Kyl/Lieberman amendment

unlike LookatMe--I mean, Zandor's, favorite "leading" Democrat, HRC.

In my 'hood, the paper comes once a day...

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[HughMoran]

22. Digging deep for controversy eh?

You generate more controversial O/P's than anybody else I can think of.

[Zandor]

23. Stimulating would be my word

I take this as a complement.

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[blondeatlast]

27. Stimulating who, exactly? And please--don't shake hands...

Yuck. :scared:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

33. LOL!!!

I wish I could K&R a "reply".

[HughMoran]

28. Stim-u-dent

:think:

[karlrschneider]

57. A complement to what?

:eyes:

[Emit]

31. Posted Monday, March 5, 2007 at 5:43 pm. n/t

[Zandor]

32. I included the date at the top of my post n/t

[Emit]

35. Yes, you did. n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

36. Do you think Bush is a madman and a thug, Zandor?

Say it. Say Bush is a madman and a thug.

[Zandor]

39. Not a madman

In terms of his foreign policy and eroding our civil rights, I'd consider him a thug in a manner of speaking.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

41. Why not?

Why is Ahmadinejad a madman and Bush is not? Why is it only a "matter of speaking?"

Do you think that Bush is a better person than Ahmadinejad?

What about the 1.2 million Iraqis he's killed?

[Zandor]

45. Take it easy

I don't think I called Ahmadinejad a madman.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

46. "Two good men, and they are right on."

Now you're contradicting yourself.

Is it that hard to stay in character?

[uppityperson]

37. How about Choice and abortions. How do you feel about those?

Couldn't find one you'd posted yet on that so am asking. I know you can read this now.

[Zandor]

42. Is this an inquisition?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm pro-choice.

[uppityperson]

43. No, it's a question to find out how you feel about them.

In what cases should abortions be legal? Simply "pro-choice" is not descriptive enough.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

44. How do you feel about gay marriage?

Do you think gays should have a right to marry?

[BlooInBloo]

47. Folks - we already know. There's no need to make him lie.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

50. No, but's it's fun to make him say it.

I want to hear him say how stupid Bush voters are.

[BlooInBloo]

56. lol! Sigh.... carry on....

:rofl:

[Zandor]

51. If I said yes you wouldn't believe me

and would still consider me right-wing, I suspect.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

53. Why are you afraid to say it?

Say "I support gay marriage."

You do support gay marriage, don't you?

[Zandor]

58. I may

Tell you what Bornaginhooligan. If I say I favor gay marriage, does it change your mind about my being right-wing?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

60. Absolutely.

Go ahead and say you support gay marriage. Also, that you think Bush voters are stupid.

You have my word. My hand's on the Bible.

[Zandor]

65. Not all Bush supporters are stupid

Misguided, even ill-intentioned, and some are just stupid.

[uppityperson]

66. missed again

I support gay marriage

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

68. So you're saying Bush voters are evil and stupid?

Is that what you're saying?

[uppityperson]

61. Why are you afraid to just say it?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

67. Because he hasn't got a spine?

[uppityperson]

55. Once again he ducks and doesn't answer.

What does "prochoice" mean? When should abortions be legal, if ever? How do you feel about gay marriage?

[Mrs. Overall]

62. I think I saw his bumpersticker:

plus



equals




Zandor + Tara = Dorno

[uppityperson]

64. What does "pro-choice" mean?

[mmonk]

49. Let's murder us a bucket full of Iranians on some more lies, shall we?

We currently are the world's most dangerous beligerent nation. This US vs the world thing is going to sink us.

[Honeycombe8]

54. Biden and Dodd were correct...I think this was shortly after the Holocaust comments...

by Ahmadinejad. Saying that he might be assassinated by his foes - that is a reference to Ahmadinejad being unpopular in his own country, which is true, per the accounts I've heard on TV. He is viewed in his country like * is viewed here....a troublemaker unpopular with at least half the country.

It probably would've been best not to actually call him by derogatory names. Would've been better to say the same thing in more diplomatic language.

Man, it must be tough having your every utterance repeated in the press and torn apart daily! Why do any of these people want to put themselves through it and run for office?????

[Marrah_G]

59. Zandor are you making friends again? n/t

:rofl:

[bullwinkle428]

63. I don't give a rat's ass what they call him - as long as they don't start a war

with his country!!!!!

[Swamp Rat]

69. LOL!

[H2O Man]

72. Legalize Slim Whitman's oatmeal. n/t