Iraq: please tell me this is fake (soilder shots dog with gun)

[brettdale]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a5ee2d6eb

[Monkeyman]

1. It don't look fake

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. That's horrible!

[jonnyblitz]

3. I don't think I want to clink on that link.

:scared:

[patrice]

4. Support Our Troops.

I know it's just a dog, but . . . :cry:

[jesus_of_suburbia]

5. I can't click on it either.

So many humans disgust me.

[maggiegault]

6. About Dogs In Iraq

There are thousands of wild dogs running the streets of Baghdad alone.

Many of them are mad, many of them are rabid, many of them attack civilians, many of those civilians are children.

Many of those dogs are wild and starving.

I am not applauding the shooting of any animal, but I can understand why the soldier did it.

Many of our troops are under orders to shoot any animal that they deem suspicious.

My brother's platoon adopted a wild dog and tamed it. The Iraqi soldiers beat it to death.

[Laurab]

10. That dog was far away from the soldiers

and, apparently from anything else. What could possibly have been suspicious about it?

I know that many of our soldiers take in dogs while they're in Iraq, but in this video, it appears to be a defenseless dog in the desert - I'm not sure whether it was a training shot or a real shot, but I'm sure the dog was in pain after it was shot, by the yelping it did.

I can see no reason for that. None.

[scrinmaster]

18. It was a training shot, chalk or paint probably.

I doubt a dog would have survived a 40mm grenade.

[sanskritwarrior]

23. I posted about this yesterday

we have standing orders to shoot stray dogs on site due to the rabies factor and/or the attack factor.

I have four dogs that are my children and I have particpated in a dog cull. It is a safety factor and health factor for American soldiers. Force protection trumps all.........

[maggiegault]

24. And I Am Telling You What My Brother, Who Is Deployed Over There, Told Me.

This is a WAR. What do you think goes on over there, a ride on the spinning teacups?

Dogs being shot are not even a drop in the bucket as far as the horror of Iraq is concerned.

It's sad and very upsetting, but sad and upsetting things happen when you live amidst hostile fire 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for deployments that are indefinite in term.

What could possibly have been suspicious about it? What if it had gone into a village or town and bit a child? Did you read my original post, where I said that the majority of the dogs there are wild, starving, and very often rabid?

[patrice]

15. Okay, I know more now and that changes my perspective.

Maybe it is understandable, but it's definitely still NOT acceptable, just like cancer.

[k_jerome]

7. for what its worth, i don't believe that was lethal...

it appears to be a training round, filled with a marking dye or powder used to train in M203 usage.

uncalled for nonetheless.

[patrice]

16. So the pink spray isn't blood?

If the dogs are such a threat, what's the purpose of just hurting it to make it go away? I just don't get this.

[k_jerome]

21. the spray is the marking dye or powder...

as for the purpose, it appears to be cruelty. so we agree on not getting it.

[lonestarnot]

8. Not going to look.

[michaz]

9. I'm not going to look either. Sorry, it is just plain sick.

There is no justification for it.

[bridgit]

11. taxpayer dollars at work, blowing iraqi dogs into bloody bits...

Stop The War!!!

[TahitiNut]

12. Dangerous place! Even the dogs have guns,huh?

:evilgrin: Just like those darn pandas!
Eats, shoots, and leaves. :silly:

[Quixote1818]

13. He shot it with an M203 training round

1,000 psi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8T6SuCOtYw

[patrice]

14. Is that a shell casing you can actually see exiting the gun?

We shouldn't be able to see a bullet should we? So what IS that? 1,000 psi compared to what other psis? Is 1,000 psi not lethal?

[scrinmaster]

19. Not a bullet or a shell.

A 40mm training grenade, the pink spray was chalk or paint or something similar.

[patrice]

20. I thought it looked AWFULLY large and slow.

I was thinking something that size if it were ordinance of sometype would vaporize the whole dog, not leave anything to yelp.

An un-controlled yiping doga can make you crazy, especially if you're tired and trying to sleep. That DOES NOT justify cruelty, but it is a testament to the situation in which the troops find themselves if there is no other recourse. It's a fucking Civil War afterall; they DO NOT have all of the behavioral options we have.

Like I said, I can understand cancer, that doesn't make it acceptable.

[HuffleClaw]

17. i'd shoot a 'dog with a gun' too

[patrice]

22. Okay, it's not fake, but also, I don't think, it's what it looks like.

It would help if the tape were longer, so we could hear if the dog did, in fact, continue to yelp, i.e. it wasn't dead, which you'd think it ought to be, because of the size of the thing that was fired at him and the ensuing cloud of "blood".

[B Calm]

25. shoots or shots?