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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:01 AM
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Fascism is spreading!

Because of my avatar you know that I'm a

Canuck.

We are watching your country sink into fascism

and it's very scary!

And extremely sad and....

Damn! I'm speechless...

It's a real nightmare or a bad B movie because

it's spreading!

Over here in Canada we're stuck with Harper,

well at least until the next election...

But I hope we will flush those bastards if

we don't we're toast!

In France they elected Sarkozy !!! WTF ?

Just take a look at the official site of

that scumbag:

http://www.elysee.fr/accueil/

Napoleon was the Hitler of the 19th century and

that little weasel is a fucking fascist!!!


And let not forget our British Friends !

BTW:I'm French-Canadian so I believe that I

can freely spit on Sarkozy without being called

a Francophobe.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:05 AM
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1. Sarkozy only won because of the fear caused by the urban riots.
Suddenly, people wanted a president who would crack down on "les banlieues," code word for urban minorities.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:27 AM
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4. Exactly like the Repukes!
And for that mather the Nazis in the 30's Damn it!

Fear!Terror! Hide! Quick! Obey!

We're the only one that can protect you!

Fight Them Over There So We Won't Have To Fight Them Over Here!!!

Gee! I can't believe that People still fall for those very old tricks.

Let me say that sometimes I'm very ashamed to be a Homo Sapiens.

(In fact we're Homo sapiens sapiens.Sapiens=Wise... Can you believe that we're double-wise? )
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:52 AM
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10. That's exactly right. nt
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:14 AM
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2. Fascism does have a habit of spreading.
During WWII, it spread throughout Europe. When a large industrialized country becomes fascist, it seems to give the green light to corporations throughout the world. CEOs, with access to wealth in excess of many countries, see it happen in a developed nation and want a piece of the action in their own countries. Greed has a way of spreading.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:15 AM
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3. What you don't know can KILL you
And many others. We're experiencing the result of three decades worth of corporate consumer propaganda which yields a dumbed-down de politicization, a lack of adherence to and basic knowledge of civics, civil liberties, humane, liberal philosophies, and the basic definitions of representative democracy, fascism, etc

I've found that most of the people who denounce the grim reality of American fascism haven't the vaguest clue as to what the definition of fascism is. Yet they're the same ones who go about cock-sure, belligerently defending their "reality" which only exists vis-a-vis adherence to tell-a-vision and hate radio. That alone pretty much sums it up.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:34 AM
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7. I'm very impressed by your post.
Please read post #4.

And a very welcome to DU!

You seem like a very intelligent person.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:32 AM
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5. It's happening in Canada too..
.. and in many other countries and areas like the EU,
Russia, India, China, etc. .. probably worldwide.

It's a matter of the movement of money and the way
the police and military are armed and ready to suppress
dissent so that governments do not have to represent
the people but rather money and power interests.

It's a matter of control of the media and the way that
film, tv, and the press can be used and manipulated for
propaganda. Even what -appears- to be a good tv show
or film can influence the way people think. A good example
is vigilanteism, which is widely portrayed and condoned in
almost all American tv shows, along with the elevation of
a kind of fascistic mindset in all of the law and order shows.

In fact, American tv is rather a one-note band in that regard.
Almost all the shows are derivative, poorly written, but extremely
effective in delivering propaganda through the vehicle of the
writing that is very supporting of anti-constitutional and anti-
human policies and views, along with propelling the codespeak
and codescripts for racism so that Americans will continue to
support the imprisonment, disenfranchisement, and impoverishment
of minorities, the poor and working classes.

Sue
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:43 AM
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8. Well Sue(Can I call you Sue ?)...
Your analysis of the spreading of fascism is Right On.

It's very frightening to see that cancer metastasize.

And the source is the US.Land of the free and home of the brave!!!

:scared:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:57 PM
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16. delete
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 08:57 PM by defendandprotect


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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:32 AM
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6. it seems to me that we are breeding a dangerous brand of fascisms - one that knows well
how to cloak the real intentions.

Make taking-away-guns an issue.
Make abortion an issue.
Make same-sex marriage an issue.
Make patriotism an issue.

Expand corporate profits and remove barriers? Americans do not even want to hear about that - too boring. Give us Brittany losing her kids. Another cute blond missing.

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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:52 AM
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9. Let me join you
Edited on Tue Oct-02-07 06:54 AM by Bassic
in spitting on Sarkozy. Crisse de rétrograde de marde.
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MisterHowdy Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:59 AM
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11. Harper shouldn't worry you.
I'm Canadian also,
I hate the conservatives with passion,
but I'm not worried about Harper.

He BARELY won the elections.
The only reason they won was because of the Liberal scandals from the
previous years. They took advantage of it.
In fact, it was their only real campaign message.

Because Canada has a parliamentary system the Liberal opposition
crushes anything silly that the conservatives want to do (i.e. private healthcare)
Harper knows this, thats why they havn't been able to do anything on their
'real' agenda.

Next elections, my prediction, the conservatives will get crushed by the Liberals.
And in the upcoming provincial elections also.

Canadians are much more politically savvy than are Americans.
We learn from history and love our country.
We are truly repulsed by what we are seeing in the States
and, because of this, most of us will vote Liberal or NDP.

Don't worry,
We'll be fine.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:03 PM
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18. You don't have black box voting by any chance, do you--????
Keep in mind that we have only fairly recently discovered the "problems" with electronic/computer voting --

Yet, there were journalists who discovered these problems with the machines back in the late 1960's . . . that's how long this has been going on!!!

See: VOTESCAM . . . there is a website -- and there is a book --
possibly in your library.

Every nation is "liberal" -- anything else is a lie.

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 07:20 AM
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12. The Police State is Closer Than You Think

The Corpse of Habeas Corpus
The Police State is Closer Than You Think


By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Police states are easier to acquire than Americans appreciate.

The hysterical aftermath of September 11 has put into place the main components of a police state.

Habeas corpus is the greatest protection Americans have against a police state. Habeas corpus ensures that Americans can only be detained by law. They must be charged with offenses, given access to attorneys, and brought to trial. Habeas corpus prevents the despotic practice of picking up a person and holding him indefinitely.

President Bush claims the power to set aside habeas corpus and to dispense with warrants for arrest and with procedures that guarantee court appearance and trial without undue delay. Today in the US, the executive branch claims the power to arrest a citizen on its own initiative and hold the citizen indefinitely. Thus, Americans are no longer protected from arbitrary arrest and indefinite detention.

These new "seize and hold" powers strip the accused of the protective aspects of law and give rein to selectivity and arbitrariness. No warrant is required for arrest, no charges have to be presented before a judge, and no case has to be put before a jury. As the police are unaccountable, whoever is selected for arrest is at the mercy of arbitrariness.

http://www.counterpunch.com/roberts10102005.html


Also check out all the links at the bottom of this article Police State USA? by Dr. Norman Livergood.



Police State USA?

SNIP

The signs are unmistakable; the Bush regime is waging a "war against dissent," rapidly moving the United States to a total police state.

American citizens had assumed that the Patriot Act and the FBI Guidelines assured that only foreign aliens could be placed in military detention centers, unprotected by the U.S. constitution. But on June 10, 2002, an American citizen was declared by Bush, without due process, to be an "enemy combatant" and to have no constitutional protections. This American citizen was thrown into a naval brig in South Carolina.

Of course, Abdullah al Muhajir, a U.S. citizen also known as Jose Padilla, has been branded a "known terrorist" with ties to al Qaeda, so almost no one is speaking out against this abrogation of constitutional procedures. A reputed "terrorist" who is said to have been building a "dirty bomb," Padilla, a New York-born man of Puerto Rican descent, is assumed to be beyond the pale, not worthy of judicial prerogatives. But what happens when Bush or the FBI brands you as a "terrorist" because you appear to be a dissenter, denying you your constitutional rights as a U.S. citizen?

Attorney General Ashcroft explicitly stated that terrorists do not deserve constitutional protections. all they deserve are "courts" of conviction, not justice. Unfortunately, in this creeping police state, who does and doesn't receive justice is determined by Bush and his underlings. Ashcroft's successor, Gonzalez, is supporting every police state action the Bush junta is perpetrating.

http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:47 PM
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13. Scary!!!
:scared:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:49 PM
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14. It spreads and I fear it will lead to WW III
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:53 PM
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15. You know, only three years or so ago, on these websites . . . people were still denying
Global Warming AND fascism on our threshhold.

There's been quite some turn around -- but it's very, very late ---

We need friends in other countries to help us keep an eye on things and get us guided in the right direction. We don't seem to know HOW to come out into the streets -- ???

Something wrong with us????


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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 08:58 PM
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17. They have to bring down America -- the rest will be easy. They've been working on this . . .
since the end of WWII --

The CIA/US worked to keep liberal/socialist governments out of office immediately after the WWII --
in fact, they resurrected the Mafia in Italy to help them.
This wasn't just propaganda, this was threats --
And, in Japan, as well, of course --
All over the world this was going on --

Including the violent overthrow of "leftist" democratically elected governments --
Look at the suffering and pain we have caused ---

Superpower is a dirty word ---

Capitalism is a dirty word --

Patriarchy is a dirty word ---

Good luck to us all --
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