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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:45 PM
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Catholic Neocons on the run?


http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/10/1/152323/069

Catholic Neocons on the run?

Neocon Catholic leaders nurtured by GOP and Conservative Philanthropy on their heels
By Bill Berkowitz, Talk2Action, October 1, 2007

In the 2004 presidential election cycle, Catholics, whose vote was considered open to both parties, were carefully courted by the Republicans. GOP organizers -- accompanied by their neoconservative Catholic brethren -- brought the "traditional family values" mantra to the table, highlighting supposed agreement between Catholics and conservative evangelical Christians on two major issues -- abortion and same-sex marriage.

In the actual election, Republican George W. Bush wound up receiving 52 percent of the Catholic vote, up from 47 percent in 2000, to John Kerry's 47 percent.

In 2006, however, Catholics, who compose a 67 million-person slice of the electorate, favored Democrats by 55 percent to 45 percent, according to National Election Pool exit polls.

It was clear that some Catholic voters had migrated back to the Democratic Party. Was it a temporary move or were they heading home for the long term?
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Catholic-boating John Kerry

In 2004, John Kerry was not only "Swift Boated" over his military record, but he was "Catholic Boated" as well. GOP officials, and their Catholic neoconservative surrogates, continuously mocked and demeaned his religious beliefs.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:54 PM
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1. I stopped being a caftholic in 2000 because of them.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 06:27 PM
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2. The "National Pool" exit polls were clearly rigged in 2004, so who knows what
Catholic voters did or didn't do?

The way it works, with rightwing Bushite corporations 'counting' all the votes with 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, and virtually no audit/recount controls, in all the new electronic voting systems, is that Karl Rove creates a feasible narrative for Bush/Cheney or other fascist 'wins'--for instance, inventing "gay marriage" as an issue, by placing it on some ballots--during a horrible war, with a $10 trillion federal deficit, and jobs bleeding out of the country, etc.--his buds at Diebold and ES&S do their thing, and then Rove trots out the "explanation" for how they "won." (It was "soccer moms" and all those silly "terra" alerts that everybody was laughing at, or "gay marriage," or their (no evidence for it whatsoever) big GOTV "in the churches.")

On election night 2004, the exit polls said Kerry won. As the results of Diebold/ES&S's secret formulas came in, they DOCTORED the exit polls to force them to FIT the Diebold/ES&S results (Bush won). Thus, the 2004 exit polls are worthless shit, as to determining how various groups voted. No doubt, a lot of Catholic votes got switched or 'disappeared,' like a lot of other peoples' votes in 2004, and were stuffed into demographic slots in the exit polls, to make them look right.

Until we have restored TRANSPARENT vote counting, and have removed private corporations from our election system--as the "trade secret" vote counters, and as the exit pollsters (verifiers)--we can't know. We don't know how people voted. We don't know who won. Virtually NO ONE in public office today can prove that he or she was actually elected. That's one of the chief reasons why Congress, for instance, ESCALATED the war in Iraq, in the teeth of 70% opposition to that war among the American people. They. were. not. really. elected.

All assumptions are off. Normal politics is a thing of the past. And we, the people, can't get to square one, as to reforming this country, until we have placed vote counting back in the public domain, with vote counting that everyone can see and understand.



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