You do know it's impossible to strangle yourself right?

[MichaelHarris]

You pass out and go limp thus releasing any pressure you have on your throat or the device your using to choke yourself. The correct phrase should be she hung herself (which I highly doubt). When all the evidence is in I do hope the explanation shows how, when she lost conscience and her body relaxed she maintained a hanging position. When she passed out she should have fallen into a less "strangling" position.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. People strangle themselves all the time.

Usually with a piece of rope or cord. Although chains, clothing, or elastic will often suffice.

[Bluerthanblue]

3. or a plastic bag- not exactly 'strangling' but just as effective- the

difference is, the bag is there for evidence-

[MichaelHarris]

5. if you are

using your own muscle power to pull the rope or whatever you choose the lack of oxygen to your brain will cause you to pass out first. When that happens you loose muscle control and relax, no longer chocking yourself. Hold your breath for as long as you can, did you die or pass out?

There is one thing I left out in the OP. Although unlikely she could have passed out and fallen into a hanging position. That would continue in the strangulation without requiring any movement from her.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. That's true, but you don't have to use your own muscle power.

You can use gravity. You pass out, your body slumps over you, what ever you're being chocked on still chokes you. Hell, people choke to death on their own tongues all the time. Or the pass out, hit their head, die from a concussion.

Hell, every now and then there will be some kid somewhere who kills himself during hold-your-breathe contests.

Passing out is a serious thing and sometimes people don't just come back like they do in the movies.

[MichaelHarris]

16. My wife is a doctor

"Hell, every now and then there will be some kid somewhere who kills himself during hold-your-breathe contests."

She says that is not at all possible, the brain's response to oxygen deprivation is to pass out. A kid holding his breath until he passes out is not only a dumb-ass but he's also breathing after he passes out.

[Hoof Hearted]

21. Wow, then you should know better than to confuse strangulation with hanging (suspension)

and you should have a better idea of how human physiology can work against itself.

edit for omission.

[MichaelHarris]

22. I do

the media doesn't, read my post again.

[thereismore]

8. not necessarily. If you tie a rope on your neck and secure it with a knot,

you'll die.

[MichaelHarris]

17. she

didn't have a rope or the ability to tie a knot. The only way her death was possible other than foul play was her to pass out in a hanging position.

[thereismore]

23. true nt

[jgraz]

2. Actually, the technical term for self-strangulation while in custody is...

BULLSHIT

I hope her family ends up owning that fucking airport.

[cynatnite]

4. I haven't heard the specifics of this...

I could see where it's possible it might happen, but I haven't seen anything that describes exactly how it happened. I've got a lot of questions.

[MichaelHarris]

6. me too

it's going to take a reenactment to see how it's possible. That reenactment needs to also show how she remained in a position to continue the strangulation after she lost conscienceless.

[TygrBright]

9. Huh? Who...what... are y'all talking about? References, please? n/t

[lonestarnot]

10. Phoenix airport holding cell.

New York Mom.

[Mike03]

11. The case in question is definitely odd, but

check out the textbook "Comprehensive Textbook of Suicidology" by Maris, Berman and Silverman. The book opens with a history of suicides, including several instances of individuals who choked/strangled themselves simply by leaning the throat against something like the back of a hard wood chair. This surprised me, but it is apparently possible to suicide in this way.

[malaise]

12. I don't believe a word of that airport story

I'm betting that poor woman died of a heart attack.

[Bitwit1234]

13. Not only the police BUT

some of the passengers in the terminal said she was acting irrational. And the police handcuffed her and took her away. What happened where she was locked up I don't know. But she had to have had something wrong to be acting that way. I don't see how she strangled her self with the handcuffs but it is hard to tell.

[niyad]

14. I want to know what was with that 16 inch chain that was mentioned in the report

[Blue Diadem]

18. I saw a picture/image of the type of cuffs they used. There was a chain

anchored to the floor and possibly to the bench she was sitting on. Somehow her handcuffs were attached to that chain. They showed it as just a flat bench seat with no back.

[pushycat]

15. How is it possible to NOT be surveilled while in custody?

Where is the tape of her alone during the 10 minutes? If none was taken, why not if she was such a problem?

[AlCzervik]

19. the nsa knows who calls who but an airport lock up doesn't have a camera?

they said they checked on her every 10 to 15 minutes which i think is bullshit.

[Hoof Hearted]

20. Not so much, and it's consciousness, not conscience.

She wasn't trying to strangle herself, which your post seems to assume. She was trying to escape restraint, and it turned out badly for her.

Strangulation is merely compression of the neck leading to hypoxia. It can be accidental, suicidal or homicidal, in each instance it is still strangulation.

[renie408]

24. Correct.

The stuff that has been on CNN all morning is pretty damning. People saying that the cops came and tackled her, wrenching her arms behind her back and making no effort to calm her down. I am going to be very interested in the results of the autopsy.