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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:27 AM
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E-Mail I Received from Sojourners
Again, Mr. Bush proves what a jerk he is, and why he is totally detached from reality. Kind of long but worth the read.

http://www.sojo.net/

What Happened to You, Mr. President?

Dear Mr. President,

When I first heard that you were vowing to veto a bipartisan bill to expand child health care, my immediate thought was more personal than political: What has happened to you?


I vividly remember a call at the office, only one day after your election had been secured. It was an invitation to come to Austin to meet you and to discuss with a small group of religious leaders your vision for "faith-based initiatives" and your passion for doing something on poverty. I had not voted for you (which was no secret or surprise to your staff or to you), but you were reaching out to many of us in the faith community across the political spectrum who cared about poverty. I was impressed by that, and by the topic of the Austin meeting.

We all filed into a little Sunday school classroom at First Baptist, Austin. I had actually preached there before, and the pastor told me how puzzled he was that his "progressive" church was chosen for this meeting. You were reaching out. About 25 of us were sitting together chatting, not knowing what to expect, when you simply walked in without any great introduction. You sat down and told us you just wanted to listen to our concerns and ideas of how to really deal with poverty in America.

And you did listen, more than presidents often do. You asked us questions. One was, "How do I speak to the soul of America?" I remember answering that one by saying to focus on the children. Their plight is our shame and their promise is our future. Reach them and you reach our soul. You nodded in agreement. The conversation was rich and deep for an hour and a half.

Then when we officially broke, you moved around the room and talked with us one-on-one or in small groups for another hour. I could see your staff was anxious to whisk you away (you were in the middle of making cabinet appointments that week and there were key departments yet to fill). Yet you lingered and kept asking questions. I remember you asking me, Jim, I don't understand poor people. I've never lived with poor people or been around poor people much. I don't understand what they think and feel about a lot of things. I'm just a white Republican guy who doesn't get it. How do I get it? I still recall the intense and sincere look on your face as you looked me right in the eyes and asked your heartfelt question. It was a moment of humility and candor that, frankly, we don't often see with presidents.

I responded by saying that you had to listen to poor people themselves and pay attention to those who do live and work with the poor. It was a simple answer, but again you were nodding your head. I told my wife, Joy, also a clergyperson, about our conversation. Weeks later, we listened to your first inaugural address. When you said,

"America, at its best, is compassionate. In the quiet of American conscience, we know that deep, persistent poverty is unworthy of our nation's promise. And whatever our views of its cause, we can agree that children at risk are not at fault ... many in our country do not know the pain of poverty, but we can listen to those who do,"
my wife poked me in the ribs and smiled. In fact, you talked more about poverty than any president had for a long time in his inaugural address—and I said so in a newspaper column afterward (much to the chagrin of Democratic friends). They also didn't like the fact that I started going to other meetings at the White House with you or your staff about how to best do a "faith-based initiative," or that some of my personal friends were appointed to lead and staff your new Office of Faith-based and Community Initiatives at the White House. We brought many delegations of religious leaders, again from across the political spectrum, to meet with representatives of that office. Some of us hoped that something new might be in the air.

But that was a long time ago. We don't hear much about that office or initiative anymore. Most of my friends have long left. I don't hear about meetings now. And nobody speaks anymore about this new concept you named "compassionate conservatism." And now, you promise to veto a strongly bipartisan measure to expand health insurance for low-income children. Most of your expressed objections to the bill have been vigorously refuted by Republican senators who helped craft the bill and support it passionately. They vow to try and override your veto. During your first campaign, you chided conservative House Republicans for tax and spending cuts accomplished on the backs of the poor. Now Congressional Republicans are chiding you.

What happened to you, Mr. President? The money needed for expanding health care to poor children in America is far less than the money that has been lost and wasted on corruption in Iraq. How have your priorities stayed so far from those children, whom you once agreed were so central to the soul of the nation? What do they need to do to get your attention again? You will be literally barraged by the religious community across the political spectrum this week, imploring you not to veto children's health care. I would just ask you to take your mind back to a little meeting in a Baptist Sunday school classroom, not far away from where you grew up. Remember that day, what we all talked about, what was on your heart, and how much hope there was in the room. Mr. President, recall that day, take a breath, and say a prayer before you decide to turn away from the children who are so important to our nation's soul and to yours.

God bless you,

Jim Wallis

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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:53 AM
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1. How easily some were
fooled. This should have been a big tip off:

Jim, I don't understand poor people. I've never lived with poor people or been around poor people much. I don't understand what they think and feel about a lot of things. I'm just a white Republican guy who doesn't get it. How do I get it?


How do I get it? Is the man such an Asshat that he needs to ask those questions? Mr. Wallis, the man was playing you!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:10 AM
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2. yes, * is a person who says one thing but does another.
of course, he doesn't relate to "poor" people, what rich spoiled frat boy does, they live off their families name. * uses people for his own sick deeds.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:45 AM
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4. He doesn't understand any group that isn't extremely wealthy, actually.
Never been around the working middle class, much less the working poor.

You don't "get it," W. You live it or you attempt to speak WITH (not to) the group you don';t understand.

The W White House isn't our grand residence anymore--it's the national countyr club.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:37 AM
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3. I also liked the other article there...
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 08:38 AM by mntleo2
..."What Will Dobson Do?" where the article examines Democratic theological values ... I belong to the same church (not the exact church but the faith) as Barak Obama. The people who belong to it do deeply contemplate their role in the world in relation to their faith and work very hard to align their beliefs to their faith. We are usually not people who wear our faith on our sleeve, but just quietly go about living it by working for the core values such as social justice for the poor, standing up for people of color and respecting and working with people of faith that are not of our own faith. The Theological Union in NY a progressive seminary, in tandem with the Riverside Church in NY works closely with the people of Islam, and Jewish communities and others for common matters such as working for peace, etc and we are also affiliated with them ~ tho Reverend Forbes the senior pastor there who teaches at the Theological Union, is an American Baptist ~ who are by far more progressive than the Southern Baptists.

Thanks to my faith, long ago I knew that the Bu$h/Dobson of Christianity was based in money, this is what they worship, not God or they would live humbly instead of in mansions and dedicate their lives to peace, not war. They would not call for assassinations, go into other countries and force them to give all their resources up to others, nor turn a blind eye to corporate slavery working people including children to death and forcing women into prostitution for their own gain. I realized that, if people who profess they are religious support those things, they are in direct dichotomy to what they faith they profess to belong is telling them. And if they adhere to those sick principals, it makes them the ultimate hypocrites, and therefore they would be hypocritical in other matters as well, such as secret lives. My faith is "open and inclusive" which means gays are accepted as equals and we have no controversy as to whether or not a gay person could be a minister, they can ~ and they do not have to keep that a deep dark secret.

I am sickened by "compassionate conservatism" which is a hoax and does little except the same old story of using the poor to line the pockets of the rich. I am sick of people who condemn gays while living secret lives as gay. I am sick of people who oppose abortions while refusing to be supportive of people who are then forced into parenthood. I am sick of people who think working your ass off for nothing to make a rich man richer is "doing something" while raising the next generation that will support us in our old age, is "doing nothing". The next "Christian" who says to me "I should not have to support other people's kids" hears from me, "Sooo with your thinking then, why should MY kids pay YOUR Social Security, since we are paying our parents' right now? Since you do not support other people's kids, why should you expect them to fight in your wars, take care of our future, or even take care of YOU when you are too old? Oh and you better get ready to go out there with your cane and dig that sewage trench since "other people's kids" will be doing that for you ..."

My 2 cents ...
Cat in Seattle

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