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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:27 PM
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Will It Be Wrong To Call Her Queen Hillary?
I've spent the past few years referring to King george, so since the MONARCHY is being handed back over to a Clinton, can I continue using the same applicable title for the position?

I'll be all set for the transition in 2016 when we'll probably end up with King jeb.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:28 PM
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1. The Bush-Clinton Dynasty has been running things since 1981
so go ahead
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:30 PM
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2. Compared with the Chimpenfuhrer,
she'd be Abraham fucking Lincoln. She's not on the top of my list of candidates, and I disagree with her about a lot of things, but she would be a big improvement.
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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:35 PM
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6. I'm tired of candidate bashing.....
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 02:37 PM by Sukie1941
Politicians are politicians, they have major quirks and unusual personalities.

If you want to dabble in politics or as a critic, please at least criticize what it is politicians do that you don't like, and then give your opinion as to how to do it better.

Bashing personalities is a lost cause. We are who we are. Like it or not.

What is really important is what is going to happen to this miserable country called the United States of America, soon to be superseded as "the" superpower by at least China. So we need to get serious about who will be our leaders in the very near future. So far, I just hear

candidate bashing.......
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:37 PM
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10. True, she's not a crook and that alone would be a big improvement,
but she's not tops on my list either.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:10 PM
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19. How can more of the same be an improvement?
:wtf:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:51 PM
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26. You think she'd do as bad or worse than Bush?
Like I said, she's not my top candidate either (I'm a Kucinich guy,) but c'mon, a little perspective. My prediction is that if she becomes President, her tenure would be about like her husband's. I had problems with Bill Clinton, but man was the country so much better off under him.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:36 PM
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27. Hillary & * are cut from the same cloth.
FYI-Bill Clinton is responsible for NAFTA, The Welfare Reform Bill etc. Hillary is on the same page too. Same with Obama. I'm not sure about Edwards...yet.

I think Gore will do the right thing by the people and the environment and that is HUGELY important to me.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070917_giving_and_taking/


<snip>
But NAFTA, which took effect in 1994, had the curious effect of reversing every one of Clinton’s rosy predictions. Once the Mexican government lifted price supports on corn and beans for Mexican farmers, they had to compete against the huge agribusinesses in the United States. The Mexican farmers were swiftly bankrupted. At least 2 million Mexican farmers were driven off their land from 1993 through 2002. And guess where many of them went? This desperate flight of Mexicans into the United States is being exacerbated by large-scale factory closures along the border as manufacturers leave Mexico for the cut-rate embrace of China’s totalitarian capitalism.

Clinton’s welfare reform bill, which was signed on Aug. 22, 1996, obliterated the nation’s social safety net. It threw 6 million people, many of them single parents, off of the welfare rolls within three years. It dumped them onto the streets without child care, rent subsidies and continued Medicaid coverage. Families were plunged into crisis, struggling to survive on multiple jobs that paid $6 or $7 an hour, or less than $15,000 a year. But these were the lucky ones. In some states, half of those dropped from the welfare rolls could not find work. Clinton slashed Medicare by $115 billion over a five-year period and cut $25 billion in Medicaid funding. The booming and overcrowded prison system handled the influx of the poor, as well as our abandoned mentally ill.

The growing desperation provided a pool of broken people willing to work for low wages and without unions or benefits. And while Clinton was busy selling out the poor, he lowered the capital gains tax from 28 percent to 20 percent, a reduction that permitted the wealthiest 1 percent of the population to derive 80 percent of the tax savings. Clinton, like George W. Bush, also provided lavish government funding for his corporate backers, including in 1998 a $200-billion highway and transportation package for the big construction companies and a $17-billion increase in the military budget. This was the largest increase in military spending since the end of the Cold War. Corporations, flush with government aid, saw their taxes dwindle. Amway, for example, had its taxes cut during the Clinton years by an estimated $280 million. The Clinton and Bush administrations, through tax breaks and corporate bailouts, have squandered billions of our tax dollars on corporate welfare.

<snip>
The bottom line is that the Democrats, including John Edwards, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, will never govern on our behalf. They are hostage to those who put them in power. And it is not us. Until we throw our weight behind fringe candidates such as Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader, if he runs, we will continue to be fleeced by corporate pawns such as the Clintons and the Bushes. It is no longer possible to argue between the lesser of two evils. The corporate state, which is carrying out a coup d'etat in slow motion and has already shredded most of our constitutional rights, is an unmitigated evil. We do not need charity. We need justice. And all of Bill Clinton's heart-warming stories about giving are not going to save us from the corporations who sucked out his soul and seek to imprison the rest of us. "
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:32 PM
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3. Yes it is. HRC is earning the nomination
No one is handing her anything. If you don't like the fact that she's run an effective, clean campaign, there's sumpthin' up w/u not her.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:37 PM
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9. Ah, baloney.
She'd never be there if it wasn't for Bill.

It's pure nepotism, just as much as with George Bush Junior.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:00 PM
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14. Ha! There'd be no Bill w/o HRC ... man, have you got issues! n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:09 PM
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18. Well, sure.
In the same way there would have been no President Bush Sr. if their hadn't been George Bush Jr.

:shrug:
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:26 PM
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20. Too true, Fredda. Luv dat, I do!
N/T
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:33 PM
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4. knock yourself out
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:34 PM
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5. Actually I like the term
and I say that as a Hillary supporter. I can see her as a queen, regal and majestic!
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:39 PM
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25. Lol, that was my first thought too
People say "queen" like it's necessarily a bad thing :P
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:36 PM
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7. I don't think so, but.....
I'm just another "looney Leftie", so who knows?





TC




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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:38 PM
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11. lol
That is great!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:36 PM
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8. Sure, why not. Long Live the Queen.
The Monarchy reigns on........
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:39 PM
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12. Sounds good.
Then you will be in the same good stead as the congress that abdicated to * . By all means learn to prostrate and all that good stuff for the royal court. And the sky is falling.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 02:49 PM
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13. How about Corporate Welfare Queen Hillary?
A play on the Reagan slang.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:05 PM
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15. You can call her what you want. Just vote D.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:06 PM
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16. Amen! (nt)
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:09 PM
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17. That some people *like* to think of her as Queen is scary...nt
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:30 PM
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21. Ah, come on. The poster is kidding!
N/T
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:33 PM
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23. Doubt it. Nepotism is obviously a major component of her "appeal" ,,,nt
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:31 PM
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22. HRH HRC. Get used to it. (nt)
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 03:33 PM
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24. I don't call anyone queen or king
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