Pelosi on FOX saying she prays for the president

[proud2BlibKansan]

One dumb RW talking point after another. She prays for the soldiers. She prays for America's children. And she prays for the president every day.

:puke:

[Xenotime]

1. sigh..

[babylonsister]

2. And I PRAY Pelosi finds her spine, though it may be too late. nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. I don't believe she has one

[Cha]

39. She needs a transplant

then. Since Nancy's such a pray-er then she should know that the pray-ers out here are praying that she gets a mainline injection of good 'ol courage.

I don't pray to whatever but I'm thinking positive thoughts that our country will survive in spite of Nancy and our other so-called leaders who are acting like pod encased zombies.

I'm hoping the forces of Justice will see this through, eventually..it's certainly taking it's sweet-ass time.

[Didereaux]

20. here's her spine...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12461951@N03/

[DavidDvorkin]

3. If I weren't an atheist

I'd be praying for a better Speaker.

As it is, I'll just hope for that.

[Vickers]

4. Hey, I do, too.

"Please don't let that dumbass start WW3 today."

[Enrique]

5. that's no longer a RW talking point

which is good. Because when the RW owned that talking point, they had more power. Always a good thing to take power away from the RW.

[cali]

6. It's not healthy for the country.

That kind of religio/political speak is just bad.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. She needs to be taking power away from the president

instead of praying for him.

[Enrique]

10. she's not praying for him

she's telling Fox viewers she's praying for him.

And that's not mutually exclusive with taking power away from Bush. In fact, it's a means to do that.

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. So she is lying?

Wow, taking impeachment off the table is bad enough. Now we can add liar to the list. Thanks!

[Enrique]

13. next I'll tell you where babies come from

[Turbineguy]

7. And Fox News prays

their viewers do not learn the truth.

[dkofos]

12. Nancy, if you really expect devine intervention, then you really need

to step down as speaker.

[phiddle]

14. ...and she PLAYS being a democrat. "Squeaker of the House"

[kurth]

15. "Bush is a lovely man. Great patriotic family. Leader of the free world. And he’s a nice person."

NANCY PELOSI: Just so oblivious. He’s a lovely man. You know, he comes from a beautiful, lovely family, great patriotic family, serves in the highest office of the land, leader of the free world. And he’s a nice person.

http://speaker.gov/newsroom/articles?id=0051

[Arugula Latte]

33. The Bush family is the nicest crime family of Naziesque sociopaths you'd ever want to meet.

*sigh* Isn't that sweet?

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[MonkeyFunk]

18. She's not putting religion in the government

Is she proposing legislation forcing you to pray?

she's free to pray any way she likes, and she's free to talk about it, too. Your foul-mouthed rant is silly.

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[MonkeyFunk]

21. Maybe the problem

is in your comprehension, not my expression.

She is free to pray any way she likes, and she is free to discuss it publicly. The same holds true for you and me.

She in no way attempted to put religion in government. If you are really concerned about that issue, you should focus on Republicans who attempt to do exactly that.

But your personal attacks and lame insults show that you have no other argument than just ranting.

[Ghost in the Machine]

23. Maybe our ideas of comprehension don't mesh....

First off, we need to toss out your red herring. I never once said she *was* trying to legislate religion into laws. Those were your words, not mine.

Let's try this:

Nancy Pelosi is a government official. She 'prays' for other government officials in hopes of some devine intervention to make the person she is praying for do something that she wants them to do. She does so to avoid having to *do* anything herself. That equates to putting her religion in my government. She wants some magical, mythical sky fairy to intervene and do her job for her.

Think of the guy who prays all day, every day, for a job, yet he never goes out and actually *seeks* a job. He just continues to pray, hoping someone will call or show up at his door offering him work. Meanwhile, the phone was shut off last month and he's facing eviction this month. But he keeps on praying...

"Prayer" is a crutch for the weak & lazy. It gives them an excuse to deny & evade their own personal responsibilities.

:hi:

[MonkeyFunk]

28. I'm a member of the ACLU

and Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. I'm an absolutist on the issue.

But her talking about how or why she prays is not an infringement of the first amendment.

As to your calling my posts semi-literate, would you like to list the errors in spelling, usage, syntax, grammar and composition I've made that lead you to that conclusion? Or perhaps you don't know what "semi-literate" means.

[Ghost in the Machine]

35. Perhaps you should look up the word 'literate'?

Here, I'll help:

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American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This lit·er·ate (lĭt'ər-ĭt) Pronunciation Key
adj.

Able to read and write.
Knowledgeable or educated in a particular field or fields.
Familiar with literature; literary.
Well-written; polished: a literate essay.

n.
One who can read and write.
A well-informed, educated person.




lit'er·ate·ly adv., lit'er·ate·ness n.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/literate
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I believe the phrase I used was "half literate', not 'semi-literate'. If you're going to quote someone, at least use the right words.

[MonkeyFunk]

36. Well, I am able to read and write

and your disagreeing with me says nothing about my literacy.

Now, back to the point at hand: Can you explain how the Speaker of the House praying is a violation of the separation of Church and State?

[Ghost in the Machine]

40. Can you point out where I said it was?

Your strawmen and red herrings are getting old & boring...

[MonkeyFunk]

42. You wrote

"Get your fucking religion out of my government."

I'm asking you where she was imposing religion in government. Stop playing dumb.

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[Moochy]

50. Grilled Red Herring with a side of Strawman Salad

The herring is dusted with dry powder, and the salad is served with a moderate vinaigrette. :P

[Ghost in the Machine]

56. YUM! LOL!!

don't forget the nice glass of whine with the meal!

:hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. Why even bring it up?

And if she is asked if she prays why can't she say something like she prays that the president will end the war and bring our troops home. Or she prays that he will be held accountable? Or that she prays he develops sympathy for the Iraqis?

She could have said so many other things other than she prays for him. That is probably one of the stupidest things I have ever heard her say.

[MonkeyFunk]

27. Nonetheless

she's not trying to put religion into government, which was the point I was disputing.

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. I don't know what to think

I know I don't trust her.

[CreekDog]

61. You didn't trust her before

And when you become speaker, you can say the words you think she should have said.

[Cha]

41. Yeah, her prayers are a lit-tle

ambiguous..does Nancy pray the "president"-sic will be victorious or he will fucking self implode?

[puffymuffins]

48. Please clarify

Is it your position that government officials should not be allowed to pray?

[Ghost in the Machine]

52. No, it's my position that government officials shouldn't be using prayer

as an alternative to actually doing their job. Nancy Pelosi has revealed herself as the clueless twit that she is.

Perhaps you missed this?

"Pelosi says Bush has to end the war
By Mike Soraghan
October 07, 2007

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Sunday that Congress cannot end the war in Iraq without President Bush’s approval.

Voters, she told Fox News Sunday, “want it to end and they had expectations that Congress could end it.”

But, she added, “You know we can’t without a presidential signature.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1994045

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Nancy Pelosi is an ineffective leader and should step down immediately for the good of the Party and the Country.

[puffymuffins]

53. Gotcha! I agree! n/t

[Ghost in the Machine]

54. Thanks for *getting it*...

And welcome to DU.

:hi:

[Dukkha]

17. prayers mean nothing. just more empty words

Enough with all this religious bullshit! It has no place in politics or the real world. Pelosi is a traitor plain and simple. Worst speaker ever. She might as well wear a flag pin and put a W sticker on her SUV

[LeFleur1]

22. Reagan

I was certainly never a Reagan fan...even when he was in the movies. But it wasn't Ronald who consulted psychics. It was Nancy.

History rewritten again.

[Ghost in the Machine]

25. Yes, Nancy used psychics to arrange Ronnie's schedules and

advance his career, with *his* full knowledge and consent. Ergo, "Reagan used a psychic".

Nancy had a LOT of influence over boy ronnie's policies and decisions. Don't forget, he also called her "mommy"....

Anything else you need cleared up??

[Neshanic]

26. Every time Nancy prays, baby Jesus sends chocolates to the Fox green room for her.

[marlakay]

29. maybe she prays for him to die...nt

[HughMoran]

30. Is this what we have devolved to here at DU?

It is customary for politicians to use those "niceties" when speaking about others (ever listen to Obama?) - especially when one is the leader of one of the houses of Congress. WTF do these little polite phrases have to do with ANYTHING?

[donsu]

32. did she have her fingers crossed behind her back when she said it?

nt

[ima_sinnic]

34. she is getting more and more irrelevant by the day

in fact, I think she completely lost touch with the voters quite a while ago.

Just this week I sent back a fund appeal from the DCCC with "Put impeachment on the table and I will send $$" scribbled across it. Screw her and her irrelevant superstitious hocus-pocus. We need action, not "prayers" and kissy-face with a fucking war criminal and traitor.

[WritersBlock]

37. Hell, Nancy, I pray for the evil bastard every night, too.

I pray that we can get him and his war criminal cronies out of power before they can attack any more countries (especially Iran), do another LIHOP or MIHOP to keep the sheeple in line, or declare martial law.

Every single night, without fail.

[Carrieyazel]

38. Bad Sunday morning appearance by Pelosi.

She's better than this.

[Buns_of_Fire]

43. Heck, I pray for him every day, too.

I pray for him to be stricken with uncontrollable, explosive flatulence and diarrhea at his next photo op.

I'm going to go to hell for that, aren't I?

[yurbud]

45. that's more than she's doing for us.

[JitterbugPerfume]

46. yeah, prayer works!

:banghead:

[bread_and_roses]

47. Maybe she should pray to the Wizard of Oz for some courage? Might be

more effacacious than her current prayers. Oh, and btw, she's on a talk show because she's part of the Government - not because we want or need to hear about who she prays for. Or does she think that her prayers are more important than some other Nancy's? Why not just have someone come out of the audience and tell us about who s/he prays for? It would be about as meaningful. I am so sick of hearing about all their prayers.

[earth mom]

49. Is there any doubt now that she's one of them?

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[undeterred]

51. I'm praying for Nancy Pelosi to come to her senses every single day.

[Disturbed]

55. She reminds me of an abused wife that prays that her

husband won't beat her &/or the kids anymore.

She needs to resign now, get out the House & go to therapy.

[undeterred]

58. Maybe stay at a shelter for abused Democrats for a few days

till she gets her head on straight.

[LeftCoast]

57. I'm sorry. Did I accidentally click on a link to FR?

This has to be the most disgusting anti-democratic post and thread I've seen in a long time. I might as well spend my time watching Fox news.

[LeftHander]

59. "Dear God..."

"Please give Dubya a brain and a conscious to go with it...your pal Nancy..."

[CreekDog]

60. I've been praying for all those things BECAUSE Bush is president

And I've been praying for Bush on occasion so that he won't screw anything else up.

I think this particular thing is a big nothing in terms of criticism of Pelosi.

[spoony]

62. And so indignation grows closer to comedy

We truly do live in a culture of feigned outrage. Whether it's some people here who rend their garments every time they hear the words 'prayer' or 'God' or RWers who screamed that Janet Jackson's nipple heralded the end of Western civilisation, it's all becoming a fucking punchline at this point. Get a grip, and some priorities.

[John Kerry VonErich]

63. Can I invent a word?

PINO, Progressive In Name Only.

And why was she on Fox in the first place anyways? There were other sunday morning shows she can be on.

[Disturbed]

64. She's on Fox Noize to address her many fans.

What exactly does she pray regarding Busholini? Does she mean that she prays to a God to have any effect upon Busholini? Her praying for Busholini is real strange.

[and-justice-for-all]

65. Praying: A poor excuse for doing nothing. nt

[0007]

66. I wish Nancy would do less Braying and get down to being the

nasty female jackass animal she was picked to be ....

[Amonester]

67. !

:wow:

[Pastiche423]

68. Is there anything that We, the People can do

to take away her job as speaker?