Nancy,get your feet off the GD table!

[goclark]

Dear Nancy and Co.,

I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of you and that table!

Please tell all of your cronies that THEY need to take their feet off the table and put IMPEACHMENT on it!

I don't care if we don't have enough votes!

Do it!

No guts no glory Democrats! :puke:

Please DU, please think of some ways to give Nanco a spine!

I would love to send her a thread of replies that would let her understand that we need some action!

Since she can't seem to figure it out,we can.

[orleans]

1. yes. they all need to stop dragging their damn feet. their elitist attitude

is absolutely killing us and this country.

but really folks--how can we expect her to impeach these fuckers when her and the husband go to the white house and have dinner with that fuckhead and his wife?

come on! you wouldn't impeach a FRIEND, now would you?

apparently nancy won't. and that's what friends are for.

[goclark]

2. So she can sit down with him at HIS table

and not put his IMPEACHMENT on America's table!!

Nancy, you were my hero but something is seriously wrong!
Nancy dear, your elevator is not going up to the the top floor.

It is not even getting to the second floor.

Nancy ~ you need to spend a little time with your grandchildren and let Dennis K. be the speaker! :bounce:

Now that man has guts, IMO.

[Disturbed]

3. Pelosi needs to get her knees off otf the floor.

While she is there she should give Busholini a blow job so he can be Impeached.

[bdamomma]

13. there is truly a disconnect between us and them, hopefully maybe

we can bring them back to OUR reality.

[jgraz]

4. Does she even have an office in her district?

If so, we need to be outside it every day until she wakes the fuck up.

[goclark]

10. Is there a way that we can let her know

without CNN and the Media Thugs blasting Democrats all over the airways?

Seems like she would get the message by now when she looks at the poll ratings.

When the ratings are in the tanks for HER Congress, seems like she and good ole Harry would get the message.

I can't believe that I am even saying this because I was thrilled when she came into office.

As a woman was was especially thrilled and now THIS.

[EFerrari]

24. Yes, it's in the Federal Building and crawling with HLS guys. n/t

[deacon]

5. Dreadfully weak leader. n/t

[Union Yes]

6. Why is she even a Dem?

I think "The Long Arm of Tel Aviv" party would suit her better.

[Jim Sagle]

21. David Duke, is that you?

[radfringe]

7. the sold the table at a yard sale the day after mid-term elections

solves the problem - with no table, there's no place to put anything...

[Le Taz Hot]

8. Nancy was placed in the position she's in

to do EXACTLY what she's doing by the same people who are bringing us the frontrunners." She doesn't CARE what we think. The corporo agenda doesn't factor us in, nor do they need to -- they have the MSM to do their whoring.

[MonkeyFunk]

9. hrmm....

"I don't care if we don't have enough votes!

Do it!"


Luckily, she does know, and she does care, and she's smart enough not to pursue a fool's errand in order to appease a few people who value symbolic actions over actual results.

[goclark]

11. What is she pursuing? Look at the poll numbers

and where is the action?

I believe there are more than "a few people" that are disappointed.

I was/am one of her biggest supporters and still want to be one.
But, something is wrong in paradise.

Somehow the American people are not seeing the "results" that you are speaking of ~

We are well aware of the "not enough votes" to get our actions through Congress. So since there aren't, what are the "results" that we are missing?

If you don't have the votes, there still must be a Speaker that will "SPEAK UP" for the issues.

We are at WAR, our children are dying.

Madame Speaker, SPEAK UP!

Madame Speaker,have you heard of the words, " The table has legs now that are mighty wobbly, I'm hearing that it just may not stand to much longer?"

She won't even say that ~ silence is not golden when you are a leader.

[MonkeyFunk]

12. I'm talking about the results of an impeachment effort

People who say "I don't care if we don't have the votes" have no business following politics as a hobby.

[goclark]

14. My politics are much more than a "hobby."

I put my money and my actions into this party.
In fact, I put my money into Nancy's campaign.

As a woman I was extremely proud of her and want very much to celebrate her achievements.

But, unless I've missed something, this is not just little ole me saying this, everyone that I speak to, in various political settings ,is saying the same thing.

You are insulting many people who have done so as well.

Since you are so close to her, please let her know that you are hearing that some of her donors want her to SPEAK UP!

Tell her that you have named us the "hobby" wing of the Democratic Party that wants to see her be successful. The ones that walk with signs, give money, are a part of Democratic Clubs and fight for TRUTH and JUSTICE every day.

[MonkeyFunk]

18. And if you

don't care "whether the votes are there", your efforts are bound to lead to great disappointment.

[goclark]

20. When she said, "it's off the table" from the start

that was a done deal for the Repubs, they knew just how to get us to fold.

Even if we did not have the votes,IMO, that is no reason to continue to tread softly around the Rethugs.

What have we gotten, even if IMPEACHMENT is off of the table?

Those poll numbers just don't reflect what Republicans are thinking now.They reflect what DEMOCRATS are thinking NOW.

Where are the issues that we can point to as a WIN and how are our leaders bringing that information to the public?

All the media says all day long is, "Congress has such poor poll numbers."

Of course we know how to count votes but it is a public relations issue if Democrats don't believe that we are fighting as hard as we can to change minds by a variety of means.

Democrats are known to be fighters by any means necessary!

And, our leadership is telling us to walk softly because "we don't have the votes."

We may not have the votes but we sure do have a VOICE -- speak out like my man Dennis!

[riverdeep]

15. Hard to believe she's from San Francisco.

Supposedly one of the most liberal cities around. I'd hate to think what she'd be like if she were from Orange County.

[mitchtv]

33. She'd be like Jane Harman or

Loretta Sanchez ,both worse

[goclark]

40. Oh my ~ nt

[bryant69]

16. "I don't care if we don't have enough votes!"

Says it all, doesn't it?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[stimbox]

17. Counting votes before they are cast?

That's a lot like counting your chickens before they are hatched.

[bryant69]

19. Well this is a stupid response on two levels

It has nothing to do with what the OP says -which was he doesn't care if we don't have enough votes. Counting votes or no - he doesn't care if the votes aren't there.

And

Counting votes was invented like three minutes after parlimentary bodies were invented. You have to figure the odds before you bring something to a vote, particularly if you are going to invest in it.

Bryant

[stimbox]

22. I guess psychic ability is also a qualification for Speakership.

Total BS excuse.
You do what is right not what is politically expedient or what will play well on Fox noise.

You don't know how the Senators will vote until all of the evidence is presented.

[bryant69]

26. You make it sound like senators vote totally randomly

You can make a list of senators and know pretty much for sure how the majority will vote on an issue; those that you aren't sure on you can research and find out in many other cases. That doesn't take precognative power - it just takes the ability to figure that Dennis Kucinich is likely to vote one way and Tom Delay is likely to vote another.

Bryant

[RiverStone]

28. History needs to record

That some on The Hill did not march blindly onward in supporting the BushCo war machine.

Even if the impeachment effort failed, if I was a Congressman I'd want at least an opportunity to tell future generations that some of us tried to impeach the idiot for war crimes, illegal wiretapping, etc.

I'd like to know some kid in a future U.S. History Class could read the footnote - House voted to enter articles of impeachment.

Trying alone says a lot, regardless of the predictable outcome.

[bryant69]

29. That's one opinion - I can respect it

On the other hand I can also see the argument that resisting the bush administration in meaningful ways and passing legislation that helps real people is probably more valuable than symbolic but doomed gestures.

Bryant

[goclark]

37. That is exactly what I'm talking about ~ Stand for Something

or Stand for Nothing.

:applause:

[stimbox]

38. No, I expect people to hear the case and then decide.

:think:

[goclark]

23. I am well aware of what a vote is and how it is counted

I also know that the Speaker, as sad as it is for me to say this, did not need to say to the entire world, IMPEACHMENT is OFF THE TABLE as soon as she was selected.

There were a thousand other ways that she could have phrased it but she didn't.

From that moment on,the Republicans got her message and so did the rest of the world.

We know that impeachment will not be on the table, she told us and on that she is not backing down.

What is she saying that is a STRONG message from the Democrats?

I have been listening and as much as I want to hear what she is saying and doing,it is not catching on.

What is on the table and what is the message?

I can not think of one other phrase to connect her with since she was elected. Not one.

Remember that I am a woman that supports her and wants her to succeed.

Where is the SPEAKERS voice? Why don't we hear another phrase that sticks like "Off the Table?"

[Zandor]

25. Is Obama demanding impeachment?

No? Oh...

[goclark]

27. No ~ Nancy gave everyone the message not to

I am not letting Obama off the hook but he is not the leader of the Senate.

:sarcasm:

[Zandor]

30. "he is not the leader of the Senate"

So?

Is he calling for impeachment or not?

[MonkeyFunk]

32. No

and neither is Howard Dean, Al Gore, Russ Feingold, or any other national Democrat.

[goclark]

35. He didn't put it on the table so he is not responsible for

taking it off. or updating us on her thoughts as of today.
All I am saying is that she needs to revisit the strong statement that she gave originally.

I am more than aware that "she doesn't have the vote and she doesn't want to waste time trying to get them."

I'm OK with that if I knew what other issues she is pushing and getting some degree of success.

She is the person that needs to set the agenda, not OBAMA.

I am also addressing other issues that I don't see a clear message and strong support coming from my the Speaker.

If she is the SPEAKER than we need to hear her SPEAK OUT and SPEAK OUT clearly. Not just on impeachment but on other issues.

I still need to have a list of issues that she has strongly supported as strongly as she has given her total lack of support to -IMPEACHMENT.


End of discussion.

[Done]

31. I would like to ask congress a question.

What, specifically, should a president be impeached for?

I would like to see if they if they can answer that question without listing something that smirk has already done.

[goclark]

36. Bingo!

Well stated....
They have alrady done every single thing to qualify but it is all off the table.

It must be nice to be a Rethug, they can do anything and NEVER get punished for it.

[mitchtv]

34. Nancy? who Reagan?

You must mean Speaker Pelosi

[goclark]

39. Absolutely our Speaker nt

[lonestarnot]

41. She doesn't appear to be able to figure her damn way out of a paper bag.

[goclark]

42. That's what I can't figure out ~ how could she be so sure

and so strong when she said, IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE?

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if that was some kind of a deal.

It was so over the top, so strong a statement that really didn't need to be said, but she said it loud and strong.

I can't remember another issue that she has addressed since then.