It has begun! Pelosi up first

[Norquist Nemesis]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[shadowknows69]

1. Watchin with you Norq

n/t

[tridim]

2. Take note that the repuke after her will talk about..

"bad Democrats" and not Bush's surge. Fucking babies.

[ray of light]

5. If you haven't...please sign this

http://www.setadeadline.com

[patrice]

19. Did it lastnight. Thanks for posting it.

Note the little survey questions including questions about funding.

I wrote a note encouraging the Senator to go after them now "no holds barred".

[Norquist Nemesis]

7. They're going to try and change the subject

and try to put the squeeze on Dems to commit funding. That's their #1 goal at this point; make Congress promise to give up it's Constitutional authority on the purse strings.

[goclark]

3. Cube rats, feed us nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. Boehner up now

'AQ and their supporters in the region, AQ and terrorist sympathizers'

Oh hell, just say it Bonerman..."IRAN! IRAN!"

[patrice]

4. "No more blank checks"

Good allusion to the need to talk about funding.

[shadowknows69]

6. Friday's vote sets the stage for other legislation

I like that.

[gratefultobelib]

10. Yes, yes, "no more blank checks for this administration." Let it be true!

[Bluebear]

8. Pelosi: "We will have a straight UP OR DOWN VOTE"

:)

[Skidmore]

9. Kapow!!! The lady says a "no vote" will trigger more legislation to the floor

for voting. She has them by their short hairs. Let us hear them squeal now.

[shadowknows69]

12. Boner flapping his lips

blah blah fucking blah. He's going to invoke Lincoln?

[Norquist Nemesis]

18. He's trying to expand the war in Bush terms. n/t

[Monkeyman]

13. I love that woman she have just spoke for us Veterans and Military Families with Class

[goclark]

16. Go Nancy, stand tough nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

14. Boehner: "We're fighting to rid the world of a dangerous ideology"

Looks like the WH speechwriters were burning the midnight oil.

[shadowknows69]

17. Well he should have practiced it longer

Not very articulate is he? Sorry couldn't resist.

[tridim]

24. Yea, but he sure has a nice deep winter tan. n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. He reads so well!

*wink*

[Bluebear]

21. "Al Qaeda SUPERVISORS are watching us!"

:crazy:

[Bluebear]

23. Boner: 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11, it's why we fight.

[Jack Rabbit]

90. I agree with Mr. Boehner

We're fighting to rid the world of a dangerous ideology.

Yes, we are. It's called neoconservatism.

[happydreams]

93. Hey, that's what I was gonna say. nt

[maxrandb]

96. No Boner!

"WE" are not "fighting to rid the world of a dangerous ideology". There are 150,000 American troops sacrificing family, birthdays, holidays, anniversaries, soft beds, home cooked meals, cold beer, and in some cases...the most treasured wealth we in America have.

You, on the other hand, appear to be bloviating in a $2000.00 suit on the floor of the House of Representatives.

What do you mean "we" chemo-sabi

[Bluebear]

15. Boner invoking Lincoln to stay in Iraq.

"Will we commit to the liberties we all cherish or leave the fight to another generation?" he asks.

[Norquist Nemesis]

25. No, he's invoking it to keep it going on a global scale

There it is folks! "9/11"!

Now he's listing everything including the Cole. Wonder if he'll also say "we haven't been attacked since 9/11"

[EFerrari]

32. Five . . .four . . .three . . . two . . .

[EFerrari]

26. Bonehead implicitly comparing Junior to Lincoln. n/t

[gratefultobelib]

20. Boehner! Idiot! We must win in Iraq to protect us in America! Liar!

[shadowknows69]

22. Oh Hell No

The war started with the Iranian hostage crisis?

[shadowknows69]

27. So we're in Iraq because of every terrorist attack in the last 30 years?

Global war?

[Norquist Nemesis]

36. Yep! You've got it!

Which exactly why Bushetals believe they have Constitutional authority from Congress to take it to whichever country his dart hits.

[tridim]

29. "We didn't start this war, they did"

Oh yea? Iraqis started this war? Lying sack of crap.

[shadowknows69]

33. No, now Iran started the Iraq war

Back in the 70's. He said so.

[rodeodance]

30. come join us-Official thread (see under Greatest)

[NI4NI]

67. A NO vote is against supporting the troops

I want to hear a Dem say that.
It also seems that the minority party is willing to give up the "congressional power of the purse" which is not surprising after 6 years of issuing blank checks.

[gratefultobelib]

31. "We didn't start this war. They did." WTF??? Boehner blathering.

[NotGivingUp]

34. yeah...that got me yelling!! WTF???

[EFerrari]

42. "If we leave, they'll just follow us home."

:wtf: Is this some Hanzel and Gretel kind of "war"? The terms these thugs use are so silly.

[caledesi]

109. Who is he talking about? Al Qaeda who make up ONLY 5% of

Iraq and were NOT even there till we provided "on-the-job" training. The Shiites or Sunnis? Puhleeze, they cannot even afford to leave the country.

Memo to Boehner: Fear doesn't work anymore!

[EFerrari]

112. They are working the xenophobia overtime.

My mom told me that today on WJ, one caller said, "They will come here and kill every one of us." She probably didn't even know who she meant by "they". It's just the Stranger at your door.

It seems to work on the 33%ers.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

35. Murtha and Pelosi . . .

Please god, let nothing happen to them.

[shadowknows69]

38. whats the offical thread link?

n/t

[POAS]

39. See Rodeodance post above!

[shadowknows69]

41. no link i couldn't find it HELP!

[POAS]

51. Look in GD: Politics

[patrice]

37. "What message are we sending to Al Qaeda around the world?"

We're over a barrel and paralyzed; any takers . . . ?

[shadowknows69]

40. Stupid? No respect for any historical strategic precedent.

Inability to learn from past military blunders? How to mismanage funds on an epic scale and still short the soldiers? Anybody please stop me.

[patrice]

43. "Right now we're fighting them in Iraq" = This country should engage in Eternal

Death and Destruction wherever we decide to go.

"If we leave they'll just follow us home" - Right, they won't be able to find there way here unless we do leave. :sarcasm:

[gratefultobelib]

44. Boehner's 5 minutes are up. Get him off there!!

[Norquist Nemesis]

47. I know! Where was the damned gavel!

Skelton up now. Hope he speeks it up a bit, though. Sometimes the pace starts me to :boring:

[Norquist Nemesis]

45. "The question is not in this debate" WTF!!!

He just earned the Asshole of the Hour Award before anyone else from his side took the podium.

[Bluebear]

46. Thank goodness. Go have a cigarette, Boner.

What a performance THAT was.

[shadowknows69]

48. IKe

Great american tragedy.

[patrice]

49. Missouri's Skelton up now.

[shadowknows69]

50. Ike you only have 5 minutes

step it up just a bit.

[gratefultobelib]

52. Ike Skelton--my rep! You can tell how much pain he's in over this endless quagmire.

[patrice]

53. "Series of irretrievable mistakes"

flawed intelligence
not enough troops
uncontrolled looting
dismissal of Iraqi Army instead of getting them to help
De-Baathification, including school teachers etc.

I take no pleasure in this moment of I told you so.

[patrice]

54. "40% of all of the Army equipment of our country is in either

Iraq or Afghanistan.

[shadowknows69]

57. Blunt (Asshole-Missouri) accusing congress of micromanaging

n/t

[patrice]

68. Lantos rebutted that.

He said the resolution isn't tactical interference, but a strategic change in course.

[gratefultobelib]

55. Oh yeah, Roy. Be sarcastic. Just what we need.

[patrice]

56. Blunt of Missouri

Hard to imagine a group less qualified to make tactical decisions than 534 members of the House.
Current situation cannot continue that's why the pResident has proposed a new way forward.
A vote for this resolution is a vote for the current strategy.

[patrice]

58. Blunt - This resolutions says just enought not to say anything at all. n/t

[NI4NI]

59. Tony "The Republic Party" Weiner

sure looks in charge up there in the Chair with the Speaker's Gavel in his hand, and he'll be quick to use it when the minority gets out of order.

[patrice]

60. Blunt

Our prosperity has produced the enemies we have today.

[gratefultobelib]

62. Looks like the repub theme is "we're emboldening the enemy by holding this debate."

[shadowknows69]

63. That's what I got

nothing new. Saving troops lives is unpatriotic ya know.

[RaleighNCDUer]

83. He actually has a point -

since our prosperity is based on the oil we've been sucking from their sand for the past 6 decades. Other countries tend to like Americans as tourists, but get resentful when we overstay our visit.

[Norquist Nemesis]

61. 'Sending message to our enemies'???

Seems to me they are really talking about the WH. :shrug:

[Norquist Nemesis]

64. Hate to ask this...but if someone can take over, please

I need to be away from the 'puter for a while. :)

[patrice]

65. Lantos - of CA Foreign Affairs Chair

The administration has not learned that you cannot unscramble an omlet, they're trying to add 21,500 mean and women to the mix.
In the mean time there are so many other fronts, global and at home that we could have used these resources.

[shadowknows69]

66. Hey guess what's on CNN right now

DEVELOPING STORY:IRAN ARMING IRAQI INSURGENTS.

Why isn't this hearing headline news? Oh yeah, because it's the truth.

[patrice]

71. Yeah, and it looks like they've been arming SCIRI too.

That's both sides! Pretty interesting uh? Pretty clearly shows that WE are the problem for all of them. If we weren't there, SCIRI and the Mahdi (sp?) army would pick up where they left off in their last struggle against Iran.

[gratefultobelib]

72. That was the headline article in the KC Star yesterday. Had to read into the article

to find out the info came from the unidentified military personnel. That was such a crock of a story.

[gratefultobelib]

69. Lantos--It's a civil war! How can we expect our soldiers to even know whom to fight??

[shadowknows69]

70. I've heard examples of everything he just listed

from soldiers first hand.

[gratefultobelib]

73. Me, too.

[gratefultobelib]

74. Putnam--fear mongerer. The enemy will follow us to our shores.

[EFerrari]

76. They've hired a consultant who told them to work on our xenophobia --

"They will follow us home" = play to stranger fear.

These people are disgusting.

[gratefultobelib]

Seriously?

[EFerrari]

81. Well, at least two of them have said exactly the same thing.

"or they will follow us home". What does that tell you? They want to manipulate us by the crudest possible methods.

[Bluebear]

89. We better close our borders for a while!

:crazy:

[patrice]

75. Putnam of FL

Trying to change the topic again.

"This is a toothless resolution.
This is so much larger than what is going on in any given neighborhood in Iraq.
The very nature of our enemy requires us to look at the larger picture.
Al Qaida operates in over 60 countries.
Resoltuion would put us one day closer to handing Al Q a safe haven.
Then they'll follow us home.
Take the fight to the enemy.
This resolutio is over-politicized.
Time was when politics stopped at the water's edge.
This week's discussion should be about the way through not the way back."

[patrice]

77. Dingle of Michigan

I wish I could support the administration.
He Reviews what has happened thus far.
I understand how important it is to support what our troops are doing.
Unfortunately, the veracity of this administra . . .
I'm against this plan because it is more of the same.
Puts more in harm's way.
Ignores Afghanistan.
NIE says fanatical terrorism has metastized across the globe.
Death of Zarqawi, Bush told us victory is at hand.
It is time that we recognize that our troops are in the middle of a Civil War.
It is time to turn this over to the Iraqis.
It will be settled by the people in the area.
Not America who is increasingly being viewed as inter-lopers.
Debate is the reason Congress exists.
Finding a new way to address issues, because it is clear Bush won't.
His policies have failed.
It is time to make changes.

[EFerrari]

78. Duncan Hunter is insane. Eom.

[EFerrari]

80. Sorry -- he keeps bringing up El Salvador as an example of

us "putting up a shield" around their government. What most people from El Salvador remember is the massacres, Duncan, you frickin liar.

[A wise Man]

84. This clown loves

to repeat wars as far back as Alexander the Great and the Roman Empire.The only people I fear are those that think republicans are reasonable or logical.

[EFerrari]

85. He doesn't really argue anything but just waves icons around.

It's like verbal hopscotch. I wouldn't buy a watch from this guy even if he worked the part of the flea market that was close to a restroom.

California apologizes for this dirtbag. :blush:

[patrice]

79. Back in a minute.

[gratefultobelib]

82. I'm going to go join the Official Thread, tho' ours is pretty darned good! Thanks for the heart!

[patrice]

86. Rangle - NY

In response to Duncan Hunters cite of MacArthur.
I didn't come here to talk about General MacArthur.
But I guess I knew him better than anyone in this room.
MacArthur left us completely surrounded by the Chinese.
He had to be called back.
Today we have to decide whether this war continues and how many people wiill die.
How many of you would vote differently if your own were at risk in a Draft.
When you go to the hospitals and see people without skulls, you don't hav e to know them to start crying.
But when you look at your own grandchildren and consider them at risk for the same thing, you change.
It is strange that you never heard the President of the Vice-President make a plea to the people of the U.S. Give us your young to do this fight.
They never ask us to sacrifice anything.

[karlrschneider]

87. Good summary. Not sure if I can watch this prick Peter King though

:puke:

[patrice]

88. My stomache hurts when I have to listen to Republicans.

I think that's anger.

Don't know how long I can keep listening to them.

[NI4NI]

92. do what I do,

leave the room for 5 minutes, maybe even post something here, then return.
because it's the only way I have to stop spitting on my tv screen.

[patrice]

94. Their ignorance and bias is frustrating and Frightening.

Everything is a struggle between competing religions.

[NI4NI]

99. I know what you mean

Hoekstra from Michigan was criticizing Muslim extremeists for wanting to destroy "secular" governments just like the relegious American fascists here want to do here.

[NI4NI]

91. Conyers: "the altar of this administration's arrogance"

that was powerful!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

95. Hoekstra: "EEEEEEK!!! Obama's gonna getcha!"

The idiot just confused Obama/Osama.

[EFerrari]

104. I'm glad I missed that. This building up Obama as bin Laden's double

is going to backfire on the Thuggery. I'm really looking forward to that -- name recognition and reserve of menace. Lol! Idiotas.

[butterfly77]

97. Did everyone miss it when,,,

Duncan Hunter called us the Democrat party?

[caledesi]

110. Oh yeah...that's even after * apologized. It is purposeful.

As an aside, note that the trolls here post and use Republic party Think they are so clever. NOT!

Freepers must be so shaking in their boots, resorting to barraging this forum.

[bentley]

98. Are we trying to bring peace to Iraq?

I thought, it was a front to fight the war on terror, didn't we invite the terrorists to Iraq, remember "bring it on." If we close the borders how will the terrorists get into Iraq? Why are we trying to rebuild Iraq and bring peace, if we want to fight our war there and not here, do our leaders honestly believe we can have both - peace and rebuilding and fighting the war on terror - I don't think so.

[NI4NI]

102. Welcome to DU!

[bentley]

107. Thanks

I've been lurking since the 1st of the year. I banned all the news media for the most part and now rely on the internet and C-SPAN for my news. Thank you all here at DU, it's a blessing to know that I'm not the only one who's not drinking the Kool- Aid.

Peace.

[NI4NI]

100. Is anybody keeping score

on how many Dem veterans from WWII, Korea, and South Viet Nam have been yielded time to, compared to the number of Minority Republic Party members yielded time who only played soldier with cap guns and GI Joe dolls in the back yard?

[caledesi]

111. Yes, and don't forget Murphy (Iraq vet). nt

[bdamomma]

101. thanks for the update you guys. I can't listen or watch while

at work.

I am getting a headache thinking about all this stuff. Can we storm the bastille please?

[EFerrari]

103. Hi there, alyce. I went shopping and get back -- we're in a WORLD WAR

AND THERE WILL BE A HOLOCAUST IN THE FUTURE if we pass this non binding measure. :crazy:

[suffragette]

105. Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran

Mushroom cloud.

Just caught the end of that tirade.

Who was that?

[EFerrari]

106. I think he was from IA. Have suppressed the name.

And it's anywhere, anywhere, anywhere because the BushCo cronies need those defense and energy contracts. Maybe anywhere in the ME?

I hope Henry Waxman is eating his Wheaties! :hi:

[suffragette]

108. Yep, they love seeing those extra zeros on the end of the

numbers in their bank balances. Because, really after a certain point, isn't that what the money is to them since they have more than enough already to meet actual needs. Well, that and power.

Waxman and Wheaties - love it.

:hi: