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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:20 PM
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You have 'liberal media', we have 'socialist media'
How strange is that?

The same phenomenon affecting the US press, campaigned by conservatives, exists in Norway. Only difference is that in very liberal Norway, you can't sell the idea that a 'liberal' press should be something negative.

So, here the meme is 'the socialist press'.

Can two such phenomenon's occur, many thousand miles apart, without it being a politically constructed meme, somehow shared across the Atlantic?

The 'news' broke in one of the largest tabloids, where a poll among Norwegian journos showed that 67% voted socialist/marxist.

Is this poll for real, you think? This haussed liberal/socialist media bias thing is so important for the rw, because then you need to change the media. And the media changes.
I guess the picture is a bit different in the US, because you've had this pressure on the media since the 80's. But here the 'new thinking' isn't older than three years.

Now, the people who accuse the media here of being socialist influenced passes as 'liberals' in the media itself. It is really the Progress party, and the not-so-conservative-centrists that nags on this. So it is the neo-liberal opportunists accusing the media of being too socialist/leftist. Here.
In your country it was the conservatives accusing the centrist media back in the 80's, nowadays it is the ultra rw accusing the rw media of being too centrist/leftist.

But if you think about it, this 'socialist' or 'liberal' bias is not decided by such a poll alone. I know that most of Norw. journos work in the local press, that is: on city level, small cities. Lots and lots of journos work in NGO's, I think that number did explode during the 90's, and especially since the internet came.

So, what about the influential press, the national press and the major outlets?
That's where the money is as far as journalism is concerned. It is also where you can build you ego, because you get to know, and mingle with, celebrities.

33% of journos does _not_ vote socialist/marxist.
Where do you think they are hired, based on what we know about human nature and the natural consequences of their political affiliations?

I started to think about this when I wrote this article a couple of days ago.
Norwegian journalists 'taken out' to squash dissent in 2003, 2006

I think this media bias thing is totally bogus over here. In the US, it's so obvious, and has been for many years.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:21 PM
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1. Spreading fascism requires internal enemies
and the press is one of them

Change the name but similar effects
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:31 PM
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3. The interesting effect
Is that the real left journos that work in the mainstream press, the major outlets, is totally defenseless against this. They just have to accept a major rw influence coming on in the press, because they are - supposedly - the majority, and the democratic balance is then threatened. I've seen this happening since 2003, it's peculiar.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:24 PM
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2. Globalisation the neocon way, in action.
;) Hêia! :hi:

See "How to Lie With Statistics" by Darrell Huff



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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:36 PM
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4. Ugh! You're right
They are not liberals, the people that accuses the media of being socialist btw, it is the Norw. evangelicals that influences the Progress party these days. Or they influence the whole political life here. Worrying development.
No, worryfying development ;-)
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