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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:57 PM
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Damn Ron Paul is the only sane voice in this group
of raving warmongers. I swear.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:57 PM
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1. I totally like that guy.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:35 PM
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30. That means you need to do more research
Paul is a libertarian who believes in complete deregulation of all corporations, the abolition of Social Security and Medicare, the abolition of all regulatory agencies overseeing food and medication safety, the abolition of all social spending.

He is also a rabid antichoicer.

The more you know about Ron Paul, the crazier he looks.

That he's right on this war is pure coincidence.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:44 PM
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32. You just described most of the other repuke candidates as well.
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 04:47 PM by Snarkturian Clone
If it's got to be ONE of those whackjobs, let it be Paul. Repukes will be divided if he gets the nomination and we'll win. If he wins, you'll get the same as all the other repukes except the war will end.


edited to add: he may be a racist sexist homophobe but at least he tells you upfront. Compared to the other repukes, he's Judge friggin Reinhold.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 06:53 PM
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37. Thank you! Ron Paul is NOT someone we want to be prez!
:scared:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:55 PM
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44. Say, do you have link with a nice break down like that?
Someone I know keeps inundating me with pro-Paul b.s. and I'd like to set him straight.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:17 AM
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45. I'd try his campaign site first
and then throw in choice bits from the Libertarian Party site.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:57 PM
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2. He said Read The Constitution! eom
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:57 PM
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3. and receives the biggest applause...
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:57 PM
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4. which is why they'll never nominate him
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:58 PM
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5. And he's a racist, isn't he?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:59 PM
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8. is he? I never got that impression - how do you know that? Thanks. nt
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 06:46 PM
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36. He's a big supporter and booster of state's rights.....
with regard to passing legislation in states that would override conflicting federal laws.

That would include legislation intended to rollback civil rights with regards African-Americans, women or any other issue a powerful group of narrowminded people could bring to the floor........

I realize I'm painting with a very broad brush, but my GUT tells me that Ron Paul believes that United States exists to serve the interests of European-Americans.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:31 PM
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40. You may be right. If so, I reckon we'll hear about it if he becomes a threat in the race. nt
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:58 PM
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6. That's why "they" want him silenced
eom
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:59 PM
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7. I'm listening and they are all so boring
and the kicker is, they actually think they're making a point
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:07 PM
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18. They frighten me
they're madmen with no regard for social rights or the constitution.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:12 PM
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24. They are scary. And I don't want them anywhere near government
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 04:13 PM by Solly Mack
but they say the same things over and over again - and it's just as crazy the first time they say it as every other time...and I'm amazed that their supporters hear anything else but blather.

I know it's a winning tactic...constant repetition ...but I'm the kind of person that if you're going to lie to me or blow smoke up my ass, make it good..original..creative. Not gonna believe you but at least it's new

I listen for things not said...which to my thinking, says more than what they do say....

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:00 PM
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9. He has a billboard not to far from my house
if I can get to it to get a good picture, I will try it.
However....it says "REVOLUTION" ...with the letters "EVOL" in red (LOVE backwards)...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:05 PM
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17. Please try n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:00 PM
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10. He has a lot of good points on many issues, and some that I find a tad scary. nt
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:00 PM
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11. yeah he just wants to end legalized abortion and any kind of safety net for the poor
and make Social Security voluntary.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:13 PM
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26. scarey dude, for sure.
his sound bytes may give him the appearance of sounding reasonable, but dig deeper and he ain't no friend of the people.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:35 PM
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41. I think - could be wrong - he feels abortion isn't a Federal issue, but rather a
state issue. I know he PERSONALLY opposes abortion, though.

I'm not sure I'd disagree with having Social Security be voluntary. Mandatory IS another example of the government taking away our free choice. I'd have to think about it.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:02 PM
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12. too bad the rest of his platform is libertarian krazee.
:crazy:

i agree with pat buchanan sometimes, too. he's still a fascist.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:02 PM
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13. He may be sane and know what a constitution is
but that is where it ends. He believes in the Libertarian free for all battle of the fittest doctrine.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:03 PM
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14. Paul sure as
hell gets it where war, Iraq and Iran is concerned. Unfortunately he is just too far right on most of the rest of the important stuff.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:03 PM
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15. he is a sexist-homophobic-elitist right wing nut. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:04 PM
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16. And he's still saner than the rest of these right wing
warmongering lunatic Rethugs.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:07 PM
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19. well he is consistent in his ideology and hence seems less fake
theres that to be said about him
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:07 PM
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20. well he is consistent in his ideology and hence seems less fake
theres that to be said about him
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:15 PM
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27. I know!
But still there is admiration for the underdog in him! Ron Paul is to the rethugs what Gravel is to our party, except that Gravel has GOOD ideas- meaning... for the people!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:08 PM
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21. Which is pretty bad, because he's still quite insane! NM
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:10 PM
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22. He may be right on the war, but he's a racist wacko. Read up!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:13 PM
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25. They all are
but at least he's genuinely anti-war. Not one of them is winning the WH anyway.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:12 PM
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23. He is a wacko, but after Bush, I 'm starting to think a wacko is just what we need.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:29 PM
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28. Obviously you've never heard him on a non-war issue.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:33 PM
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29. Sane???
None of them's sane, including him. They're just insane on different issues!
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:36 PM
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31. I agree - he seems to actually believe in what he says - rather than
just memorizing some talking points
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:54 PM
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33. Romney talks like Rummy
Answers in questions
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 05:00 PM
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34. WOW
That was a total joke!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 05:07 PM
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35. He's the sanest person in the asylum
But still bat-shit crazy compared to rational thinking people.

Libertarianism as a political ideology is a lot like believing in the Tooth Fairy.
Neither really exists in the real world..
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Solar_Power Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 07:18 PM
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38. He'll drop out soon if he can't raise some cash
and move up in the polls
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 07:20 PM
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39. your right malaise fucking warmongers....
and romney would have his fucking lawyers part of his foreign policy.....

ron paul is bat shit crazy about everydamn thing but the war.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:39 PM
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42. The fact that he is considered the most sane..
doesn't say a lot for the republic party.
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Perseid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:50 PM
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43. ron paul is not a neocon
he has an independent voice that I respect.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:19 AM
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46. I said that at the first debate
Not only is he the most sane (and he's batshit crazy, so his sanity tells you more about the Republican party today than anthing else)

But I think we can at least trust him with the welfare of the nation, just not social security, the department of labor, and other hard right libertarian issues he takes issue with

But he is sane comapared to the rest
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