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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 07:55 PM
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People Close To GORE: "Convinced That He Is Looking For An Opportunity To Jump In The Race"
Mr Gore has said nothing to indicate he might run, and his Nashville headquarters is silent on the question. But people close to the former vice-president are convinced that he is looking for an opportunity to jump in the race as a candidate who really is prepared to bring about urgent change in the face of the looming disaster posed by global warming.

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The next few weeks are considered crucial for a Gore candidacy. A petition drive for New York State must gather 5,000 signatures between the end of October and early December if he is to be legally entitled to be on the ballot. In Michigan, Gore supporters must get more than 12,000 signatures, and a signed statement by Mr Gore himself to get on next year's primary ballot. His backers are hopeful, however, looking to a recent local TV poll that had 36 per cent of Democratic voters backing him, beating Mrs Clinton with 32 per cent.

But even those who expect him to get the Nobel Prize are unsure they can persuade Mr Gore to run. "I know it's still a real long shot that he'll run," said Fred Koed, of the Massachusetts Draft Gore group. "If I were in his shoes, after the devastating and painful loss in 2000, I'd really have to search inside myself to see if it was all worth doing again. He'll have to determine if this is right for him."

more at:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3043756.ece
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 07:57 PM
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1. Looking for an opportunity? Come on! It's staring you in the face, Mr. Gore! nt
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:01 PM
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3. He's always had opportunity. He doesn't seem to have desire. n/t
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:07 AM
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56. People have to just let go
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:08 AM
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64. Couldn't we hold out hope until it isn't possible for him to run?
I mean jeez, it will all become clear in the next few months. Why not be allowed to visualize him running? The steps are being put in place for him to run, so why not just let the people that want to have hope have it?
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:54 AM
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93. And if he doesn't run? Do you give up?
Sorry, but I foresee a bunch of people in the Draft Gore movement moping around here until November 2008 moaning "Gore should've run." I think they'll be especially moping as the Democratic candidate has his or her heads handed to them by the eventual Republican candidate, no matter how stupid or divisive he may be.

I've given up on Gore. I believe he wants the Democratic Party to go down to defeat. He could have been the one force that could have united all the bickering people I see here on DU, but he's still hurt and dismayed by the way the Party is run.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:27 AM
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100. I sincerely doubt he is 'hurt and dismayed by the way
the party is run'. He did endorse Howard Dean's candidacy. The way Dean is trying to re-structure the DNC is the absolute opposite of the way the party was operating in '00.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #93
184. If he doesn't run, I move on
I'm a big girl. I can handle it. I'm going to keep hoping until there isn't any reasonable hope.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #56
109. Problem is that there really isn't a great candidate to vote FOR.
On either side...
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:30 PM
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130. I will personally hold his coat, mow his lawn, do his taxes. Just run.
I don't want to die in a fascist country.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:49 PM
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164. It doesn't make sense that he's "looking" for an opportunity
The constant questions from the news reporters pointing to a public desire for him to run, the large draft Gore efforts, and everything else provide ample opportunity to say, "Yep."
I'm wondering what the purpose of this is...it's not like he needs to float a trial balloon to see if there is enough interest. :D
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:01 PM
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2. How about right now?
Now, yes, that would be a good time.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:03 PM
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4. Do it now Al!
Just do it! We need you!
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:03 PM
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5. LOL!
"Looking For An Opportunity"?

Is this piece serious?
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. For the good of this country, and the rest of the world for that matter
I sure hope so.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #11
76. I don't see the attraction
He's a good man, but this Draft Gore to Save the Party and Our Country sentiment is nonsense.

He just doesn't stand head and shoulders above the field.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #76
90. Somehow
it doesn't surprise me that you think that.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #90
95. It's partly the Fred Tmompson snydrome
The guy not running is the one we want.

I strongly suspect Gore's DLC roots and closee association with the Clintons would be used to tear him down if he jumps in.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #95
177. Fred Thompson?
Freddy T is a retard. And among the crowd he stands with that's saying something.


I made that image on April 16, 2006.

And I was hardly alone among Gore hopefuls when I did.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #76
102. "He just doesn't stand head and shoulders above the field"..
Bull-fucking-shit he doesn't!:eyes:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #102
111. Don't...just don't ...
it only encourages him to post more outrageous shit.
I say, RUN AL RUN!
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #76
113. OK, I'll take the bait.
Why do you think he isn't head and shoulders above the field?
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #113
128. Why do you think he is? n/t
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #128
133. Iraq, global warming, the Internet, Kosovo, Superfund,
for starters. He is the one of the few political figures who was right about Iraq before both invasions (pro in 1990, anti in 2003). He is a visionary (see above topics). He is probably the most popular Dem today. Certainly he is treated like a rock star wherever he goes, rivalled only by Obama in real enthusiasm. He is perhaps the most celebrated American statesman since FDR.

He is right about the big issues early, even when it's unpopular. He is undefeated in local state and national elections. He is the ideal candidate to elect if the US is serious about shedding it's status as a rogue super power and re-joining the community of nations. He is also the ideal candidate for pointing out the sins of the disloyal and unprofessional American MSM.

He has incredible knowledge about our greatest planetary issues. He has made the most logical and effective proposals regarding climate change (e.g. the ElectraNet, carbon freeze and moving up the next global talks from 2012 to 2010).

In other words, he is the only viable candidate who is proposing aggressive action to save our civilization.

As a candidate, he has crossover appeal with independents, moderate Republicans and fundamentalists because of his movie, which casts global warming in moral terms. In other words he gives crossover voters something to vote for instead of something merely to vote against.

In 1992, he proposed a way to save civilization. Since then, scientists have continually revised their predictions for more rapidly stark results (e.g. the latest prediction says the Artic icecap could be melted in 23 years). He has refined his message in such a way that he has become the foremost voice on this topic, winning two Oscars and countless major international awards.

None of the other candidates can even touch his record or abilities. Get the idea?
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #133
149. Thanks for the thoughtful answer
I won't question his being the leading candidate on the global warming issue, and his vision on things like Iraq and the Internet are impressive.

I'm not sure his popularity resonates outside DU as much as you seem to think. I'd also suggest his 2000 campaign left something to be desired and he's stiff as a campaigner.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #149
150. You are welcome.
As to his popularity, I am sure it is great outside of DU. Over the last four years he has been lionized wherever he goes, often speaking to overflow crowds. At times, he has had to speak twice, when overflow crowds outside demanded to hear him. Especially since the movie and two books, he has had people flocking to him. I can't recall any American statesman since FDR who has received so many prestigious international and domestic awards. People all over the world respect and love him.

As to the 2000 campaign, it wasn't perfect, but it was extremely effective. He started the campaign down more than 15 points against Bush and the conventional wisdom was that he had very little chance to win. On top of that his campaign had disadvantages unknown to other candidates in modern times:

1) Monica; and
2) an unprecedented, overt hostility by the MSM never seen before or since.

Also adding to the headwind was being a two-term incumbent VP. They almost always lose (after eight years of Pepsi, people vote for Coke and vice versa). The dishonest and unethical candidacy of Nader from the left was another component.

Gore's "stiffness" is wildly exaggerated by an MSM press corps that continues to try to rationalize their unprofessional, lying conduct in 2000, which I believe is the greatest media scandal in American history, resulting in Iraq and the assault on the US Constitution.

Gore is actually both a good stump speaker and on televised speeches. His performance at the 2000 Dem convention resulted in one of the greatest bounces in modern times.

I will close by conceding one point. His debate performances were not what they should have been. But in the context of the outrageous, biased press responses to the debate (see dailyhowler.com), he was trying to adapt in the most hostile press environment any American candidate as seen, at least since Truman.

Despite all that he won. An incredible political performance, perhaps on the edge of genius. If he runs this time, the bloggers are ready for the Washington Post, NYT, Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Brian Williams and all the rest of those lying scumbags. They have done everything possible to bring our planet to the brink of disaster, but I still believe that good can triumph over evil.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #149
175. Try DailyKos instead. DU is lukewarm compared to DailyKos
and that site gets 3 million readers per day.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #149
187. my fundy republican boss says he would vote for him if he runs...
and I'm fairly sure my boss is not hanging out here at DU.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #133
158. Note, that you didn't get an answer to your question
even after you answered the question asked of you.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #158
170. LOL, thanks.
I'm so used to it that I didn't notice.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #170
186. Which question was that?
"Get the idea?" is rhetorical, and I think I replied in a reasonable way.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #186
189. I agree.
I don't have a problem with your response at all.

I think what the poster was referencing was my original question, something like "Why don't you think he's head and shoulders above?" or something like that. Anyway, it was kind of an awkward question, so I don't feel a need for a response and I felt like we had sort of a respectfful interchange, even though I started out a little testy. But feel free to answer that one if it makes any sense to you. I'm OK either way.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #133
180. Pro-first Iraq invasion was right?
He is the one of the few political figures who was right about Iraq before both invasions (pro in 1990, anti in 2003).

Are you sure? What about the directional drilling into Iraqi oil fields? Or the whole episode where April Glaspie assured Saddam that "we would treat it as an intra-Arab matter" if he invaded Kuwait?
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #180
188. I think so.
I wouldn't defend the foreign policy of Bush 41 or the practices of Kuwait, but Saddam's invasion of Kuwait was a major violation of international law and justified restoration of the status quo ante. That's why the majoity of Arab nations supported the Gulf War coalition in 1991.

The larger point for me is that Gore is an internationalist. He tends to favor or oppose a given war in the same way the majority of nations does. Hence, he opposed Viet Nam and the Iraq invasion, but favored intervention in Kosovo to stop Muslim genocide and the oppression of Muslims in the occupation of Kuwait.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #76
120. "just doesn't stand . . head and . . " DAMN.
What did you do with the money your parents gave you for new glasses?

He levitates SKYSCRAPERS above any candidate in the field. Well, except Kucinich . . . his distance is merely a convenient store.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #120
129. How so? n/t
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #129
141. Read "Assault on Reason". Watch "Inconvenient Truth".
I don't do call and response laundry lists, sorry.

He's the only one with a real PLAN on how to clean the mess the Bewsh Administration left us.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:05 PM
Response to Original message
6. GORE-GORE! GORE-GORE!
Come on, Al, we're counting on you! Do it! You know you wanna, deep down inside!
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #6
28. He might not exactly wanna...
...and I wouldn't blame him for feeling that way.

But he should know that he HASTA!

For the good of the country and the world.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:06 PM
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7. It's his to lose if he jumps in.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #7
63. Yep, just like in 2000...n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:08 PM
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8. Get- Get- GET ON IT, MAN!!!
Are you out of your MIND? DOooooooooo EEEEEEEEEEEET!!!

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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:10 PM
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9. Timing Is Everything
If he wins the Nobel he will be at/near the peak
of his career (to date). What could he do to top that? Hmmmm?
If he doesn't announce within a week or so after winning the Nobel
Prize then I will discount any chance of a run.

A big IF, but stranger things have happened.

Please run Al.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #9
21. I'm with you
give it a little time a week or so to sink in to the mind of the people

Al Gore + Nobel Peace Prize then



announce just weeks before the Thanksgiving Holiday when family Friends and neighbors get together and talk.

Hey a a guy can dream.



:)
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:13 AM
Response to Reply #21
47. hey, girls dream too!
Jump Al Jump!

Just JUMP!

Jump IN!

:toast:
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:25 PM
Response to Original message
10. The opportunity he is looking for
is the call and support of the American people, I believe.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #10
29. .
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #10
82. See page A-15
of today's New York Times!
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #82
117. You refer to this?
''He deeply appreciates the heartfelt sentiment behind this ad and understands where this comes from, but he has no intention of running for president,'' said Gore spokeswoman Kalee Kreider.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #117
162. Al has responded to the ad? -eom
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #117
169. I agree but for other reasons....
He's supposed to be good friends with the Clinton's.
His entering would kill Hillary's chances.
And if he didn't chose her as his running mate?

Stick a fork in that relationship - it's done.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #82
163. I don't get the times
Are you referring to the ad?
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:32 PM
Response to Original message
12. Come on Al...
ya know ya wanna. :)
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progpen Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. I admire Mr. Gore and respect him...
but I honestly hope he does not run. I really believe it would only hamstring his ability to speak his mind. It is precisely his ability to say what needs to be said right now that makes him so attractive to so many. But if he is worried about saying something that may tick off a potential contributor then he will not be as valuable to us.

We need Mr. Gore free of campaign managers, pollsters, and party officials.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #18
39. Actually, after reading "Assault on Reason"...
I feel he is less likely to worry about ticking off a potential contributor, and more worried about doing what is right despite the money. If he was all about the money, he would have gone the Hillary Clinton or Obama route in jumping in the race early and pandering for 2 years to build his campaign coffer. I hope he does run. At least he will run the race his way, and be pleasantly surprised by the favorable response from the voters.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #18
85. He does not need the money.
He has plenty of his own money to run on. PLENTY.
He's already free of worry on that point.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #18
114. Your premise is wrong!
He has been publicly speaking his mind for 30 years. In fact, the reason you and I are able to debate this online is because of his visionary work in bringing the WWW to the general public. What I'm saying is without Gore's courage and action, there might well not be the universal presence on the Internet.

His actions on the other major issues of our day have also been historic, for example, his personal intervention that saved the Kyoto Accord. If you read his biographies, although there is plenty of MSM bias to filter, you will discover a great deal more.
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progpen Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #114
131. Sounds good...
I respect your opinion and will keep an open mind as to Mr. Gore's ability to do more good in the White House.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #131
140. Thanks for that.
A reasoned response and an open mind is welcome these days.

I came on a bit strong and I apologize for that. I confess an abiding dedication to Gore since 1992 when he wrote Earth In The Balance. As the climate crisis has accelerated and worsened I suppose I have gotten a Cassandra complex about the survival of civilization (I have kids). Add to that the Orwellian media in the US and I am driven to exasperation.

Finally, the last days of a possible Gore presidency are upon on (Nobel Prize announcement on Friday and filing deadlines coming up in a few weeks). Put that all together and I'm a bit of a nut case. I truly appreciate the humanity in your response.
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progpen Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #140
173. No problem...
we seem to be on the same page about many things.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #18
178. Very good point. n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:32 PM
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13. Bush v Gore
"The judgment of the Supreme Court of Florida is reversed, and the case is remanded for further proceedings not inconsistent with this opinion."

How about that for a reason?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:39 PM
Response to Original message
14. Obama has a better progressive record.
I'm not forgetting Gore's position on trade, lackluster 2000 campaign, DLC centrist record, and lack of action on the environment for 8 years as VP. I appreciate what he's doing and I think he should keep doing it.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #14
27. Can Obama win a general election?
I'm just asking, I don't know. But if he can't, does it really matter how progressive his record is?
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #27
155. While Iraq helps any reasonable Dem nominee,
history says that running a nothern liberal senator means defeat. Why risk that strategic problem? Gore is the natural answer as a southerner who has never been defeated in a general election. This time, Gore could win by a landslide. A Senator is very risky.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:28 AM
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38. How about all the years of action
Since he got in the Senate on the climate issue? Not to mention that I think he has since moved away from the DLC.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:01 PM
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148. I call bull****!
Al Gore did nothing on the environment in eight years as VP??? What a laughable, uninformed assertion.

World talks aimed at reaching a protocol on global warming seemed on the verge of collapse one week after they began in Kyoto, Japan. European wanted the United States to agree to steeper cuts in pollution emissions. The American delegates and other wealthy nations wanted developing countries to make a stronger committment to pollution controls. Gore was caught in the middle of it all. He knew that without his intervention, the Kyoto talks were likely to fail. But there was enormous pressure on him not to go. He was told that the agreement might do major damage to the economy, endangering everything that had been gained, socially and politically, over the Clinton boom years. Furthermore, whatever he did would not be enough to please the environmentalists, and the business community was strongly opposed to the talks and hoped they would collapse. His trusted consultant, Bob Squier, armed with polling data, came to him and said he was absolutely convinced that it was political suicide. "You can't go," he told Gore. "If you go, I can't help you. No one can help you. This is going to kill you."

If Squier was caution whispering persuasively in his ear, Gore was not listening this time. Before he left, he met with a dozen senior administration staffers in his West Wing Office. Only one person in the room thought he should go. That was Al Gore. During the meeting, he went around the room, asking aides one by one for their opinion. Some said that the decision was very difficult and that they would not offer a position. Others were adamant that he should not go. Thank you very much, Gore said. I'm going to think about this. There was no way he was not going to Japan. He worked on his speech on the flight over, then conferred with President Clinton from his hotel room, working out the final wording before heading over to the conference room-- cavernous, windowless and beige-- where hundreds of delegates were waiting. The room fell silent as he walked in. He said that the Americans were willing to show "an increased negotiating flexibility"-- words that refueled the talks. After meeting privately with officials from South America, Japan, China, India, Braziland Europe to broker a consensus, the treaty was kept alive. As he left, he flashed a thumbs-up sign to his aide, Katie McGinty. Go get'em, he said. Call me if you need me. On the plane back, Gore walked through the cabinpumped by adrenaline, as his staff slept in utter exhaustion.


The Prince of Tennessee, by David Maraniss, pp. 287-88.

This is just one of the reasons I love this man. He risked everything for the people then and other times. Once in a generation, if we're lucky, do we get someone with both vision and courage who is willing to risk his own political future for the sake of humanity. I hope we have the wisdom to recognize his greatness and act accordingly, while there is still time.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:00 PM
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194. I loved that book
I have followed Al Gore for years. His father's home in Carthage, Tennessee was just 60 miles from my grandmother's home. Al's father was often the topic of discussion in that area, especially when he started to do "controversial" things many conservatives did not like. Remember the year.

Al's father, a true man of courage, supported the Civil Rights Act of 1965. He opposed, in The Volunteer State, the war in Viet Nam. Nixon, outraged, sent people into Tennessee to actively work to defeat Gore's father. They succeeded.

The truth of the matter was Gore's father knew when he took these unpopular positions his political future was doomed. From the time Al Gore was a child, his father and his mother educated him about the plight of the African-American in our society. They took him, as a child, to places where, in the dungeon-like basements still remained the chains where African-Americans were bound as they lived in slavery. Al Gore learned at an early age it would take people with courage to assist the African-American community to step up to a place where they had equal rights with caucasians. And that is why the African-American community has embraced him with unabashed love, because he, like his father, has fought for their standing in this country. Like father, like son.

You mention his speeches; some say the one he gave at his father's funeral celebrating the man's life was the best speech he has ever given. I can believe that, although the ones he has given in the last five years I believe will live in historical recounts of this unfortunate era we now find ourselves in.

It was during this time frame, the one mentioned above, that many Democrats left the party and became Republicans, so outraged were they that the party to which they belonged embraced the African-American community as equals.

Al Gore deserves so much more credit for the type of life he has lived and the humanitarian he has always been. Of late, since he has acquired the so-called rock-star cloak, many here have become more aware of his inherent talents and abilities. It's such a shame they did not follow him throughout his career; if so, their doubts about his political acumen would never have existed.

In addition to all the wonderful reasons you have given in your posts about why Al Gore is head and shoulders above all other candidates (and I totally agree with you on that), there is a personal reason why I believe Al Gore might consider jumping into the race. He would not want his grandchildren to be deprived of growing up in a United States of America that is so changed from the one he and his father grew up in. It is almost inconceivable to me that Al Gore would allow this golden opportunity to pass him by to right the wrongs the Bush* cabal have brought upon our Republic and to restore this once-great Country to restitution of Constitutional principles and ideals. Can you truly imagine Al Gore signing off with total passivity to that possibility -- that his grandchildren and other descendants might not even have an opportunity to glimpse the former greatness this Country had?

It's always a pleasure to meet another longstanding Al Gore fan.

Sam
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #194
200. It's always good
to talk to someone from the Carthage area. My wife and I went there and saw a Gore 2000 poster in a window on the main street! Talking to people who knew the "Silver Fox" and his erudite mother has filled in some of the holes in the three biographies I've read and reinforces why this family is so beloved.

I agree that he will run. The main practical problem will be organizing and getting votes in Iowa and New Hampshire, but I think it's still doable. If the Shaheens are still available, they would probably help him in NH. I have been to Iowa on his behalf many times and have met many people who still love Al and Tipper. Raising money will be easy because of the Internet and his charisma. Probably the biggest issue is the press. They are still mainly pretending that they didn't do the loathsome things they did in 2000. If it ever becomes widely known what really happened, the reputation of dozens of reporters will be changed.

Like you, I think he will run. He has always shown courage when there was a great need. And he knows that our planet's need has never been greater.

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Perseid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:41 PM
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15. I'm sure he wants to, for all the right reasons, but
I'm am also certain that he won't. It just won't happen.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:45 PM
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16. The opportunity is that your country and the world need a visionary leader, free
from corporate ties, reverred in the world community, who understands the importance of climate crisis, the constitution and the welfare of the people.


THERE ARE MANY PRESIDENT GORE WAITING FOR YOUR WORD, TO SPRING INTO ACTION!
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Perseid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:47 PM
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17. if he does
I'm the first to spring into action. I love the guy
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:50 PM
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19. YES!!! Thank you for posting this kpete!!!
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 08:53 PM by whereismyparty
Dahling, yew ah mahvelous!

GO FOR IT GORE!!! We're there for ya!!!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:56 PM
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20. Hillary would eat him for breakfast if he tried
Of course after reading about her "help" in getting him elected back in 2000-I think it would be just deserts if he ran.

Everything I read about her makes me like her less.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/11/clinton200711?currentPage=3

Before Hillary officially established her exploratory committee, she began directly competing with the vice president for money, sometimes even at his own fund-raising events. When Tipper's friend Melinda Blinken and a group of women planned a Gore fund-raiser in Los Angeles, Hillary insisted on being invited—over the objections of the event's organizers. Hillary then shocked the vice president's supporters by soliciting donations for herself in front of Tipper.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 08:58 PM
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22. makes your blood boil-it's all about $ and power for some
:mad:
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:03 PM
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23. Sounds like all of us women who
know how to deal with "those" type of women have to unite. Maybe dealing with a exwife is a perfect resume for helping Gore deal with Hillary. I know all about manipulation, greed, lies, doing anything to win.

Yes, there are many of us, with lots of experience that can help Gore.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:06 PM
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24. oh please oh please oh please oh please
oh please oh please oh please oh please
oh please oh please oh please oh please
oh please oh please oh please oh please
oh please oh please oh please oh please
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:09 PM
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25. If He Does, I Just Hope Cheney's or Hillary's Hit Men Screw Up, Miss, and Get Caught Quikly
Then turn states's Evidence.

Hillary would be POed enough to kill him if he got in at this point

I have no doubt at all.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:48 AM
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44. Yes, and the Clintons murdered Vince Foster, too. n/t
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:11 PM
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26. drip drip drip...
It's coming.
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:51 PM
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30. He is not running and won't run and does not even want to run
"but people close to the former vice-president are convinced that he is looking for an opportunity to jump in the race"

Thats a bunch of bullshit. People who know Mr. Gore know just the opposite, at least for this election cycle. I don't know who that journalist was talking to but it was certainly somebody not too close to the situation or the man. We have a pretty good idea who that journalist spoke to but I won't post any names here. He decided to sit this one out a long time ago, and has so many things to keep himself busy with that he hardly has enough time as it is.

Do I know this firsthand? Yep. I can not offer not will I offer any proof and I honestly don't care but what I do care about is that people should start to focus on who we have to work with this election cycle and stop dreaming of things that are not going to happen.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. i dont post very often but cannot resist asking one question
and i ask this with complete sincerity - if gore is not at all interested in running why is it that every interview i have seen (several at least) where he is asked about running does he say the same thing: that he doesnt "have to play the game of running 600 or 500 days out"? why not stop after the other pieces of his usual response where he says he is working hard on global warming projects or that he hasnt really thought about it?

i havent been too involved in the gore discussions but i just find it amazing that with that one statement he seemingly leaves the door wide open with that same response. i understand if he said it once or said it long ago but thats not the case and i am completely confused by it.

thank you for any clarification if you have it
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. I have a similar question
On his appearance on Larry King a few months back, he was asked if he would accept a cabinet position. He flat out said "No." However, when asked about running, he doesn't answer with a flat out no. How do you explain that?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 11:19 PM
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33. THAT is a very good question. nt
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 11:19 PM by BullGooseLoony
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 11:28 PM
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35. Exactly!
He could very easily dismiss the possibility yet he chooses not to.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #32
40. Good question!
Al Gore on CNN's Larry King Live, May 22, 2007

KING: Let me get another call in from Lexington, Kentucky. Hello.

CALLER: Thank you, Mr. King.

Mr. Gore, given the foreign policy expertise that you have exhibited on Mr. King's show tonight and the expertise that you gave to the administration of President Bill Clinton, would you consider the secretary of state position in a Democratic presidential administration?

GORE: Thank you for your kind words, but, no.

KING: No cabinet position?

GORE: No.

KING: No federal position?

GORE: No. Not because I don't have the greatest respect for what an honor it would be to serve in such a position, but I have -- I have zero interest in doing something like that.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0705/22/lkl.01.html
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #40
75. Yes! Exactly what I was referring to.
Thanks for posting the link and exact transcript! :hi: :thumbsup:
I've been wondering why he was so quick to dismiss a cabinet position and not running for President.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #31
37. Here's my take on it, also:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:59 AM
Response to Reply #31
54. Hmm. Perhaps because he is gauging reactions like the ones these threads get?
Perhaps he is gauging how many people really care about global warming and how many just want to use it to get him to run for their own reasons? And when he stated he doesn't have to participate in the 600 day race and "play that game", perhaps he meant that he doesn't have to be a part of that BS at all and play that game of politics? And face it, would people even be talking about him here now had he come out in May of last year before An Inconvenient Truth came out and stated in the words that the groupies want to hear, "I am not running in 2008?" Do you think there would have been people from these "Gore sites" at the movie theatres getting people to sign petitions by using his movie to do it? Do you think the media would have cared? Do you think the people that went to see it on the whole would have? I don't think so, because as he pointed out in the Assault on Reason, this society runs on soundbites, hype, and polls, and the people who are still pushing him into this are doing exactly that.

I remember an appearance I read about that he did in Buffalo when a girl actually got down on her knees (and who knows if that was planned or not) and said run al run... here he is doing a presentation on THE crisis of our time and that was all the girl could say? And he demurred. I seem to believe that while he believes people should have the right to support someone as they choose, he may not be happy with the way they are doing it which is why he is not bothering with it. Instead of standing up and supporting his organizations now and mobilizing people to action on the climate crisis now with that civil disobedience he discussed, all they do is follow the same soundbite hype playbook he wrote about in his book. I think THAT was what he meant when he stated he hadn't seen what he was looking for.

And even on CNN with Wolf Blitzer he claimed the candidates had some time to come up with a global warming plan. So why would he jump in now when there is still time as he stated for other candidates to bring out a plan if he isn't playing the 600 day game? Who knows, but it is amazing to me that rather than coming together to address this crisis now, all people can do is put his every action and word under a microscope and actually, that has wasted precious time. I cannot blame him then if he doesn't want to "play that game" at any time. It is a game that only looks at hype and disappoints.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:29 AM
Response to Reply #54
65. You forgot
Perhaps he is gauging how many people really care about the WAR and how many just want to use it to get him to run for their own reasons?
Perhaps he is gauging how many people really care about the CONSTITUTION and how many just want to use it to get him to run for their own reasons?
Perhaps he is gauging how many people really care about THE PEOPLE and how many just want to use it to get him to run for their own reasons?

I'll say it again RG, you have our motive's back wards. I care about all these things. But I don't need to sign any more mission statements. I'm no longer looking foe an oracle.

I'm seeking to place OFFICIAL power into strong and deserving hands. If AL GORE opens those hands, I believe that he can receive that power. I am fully aware of the toxic political process that involves. Some of us try to pry the hands open, that may be unseemly, and yes probably a nuisance. Even a distraction.

But what in the WORLD is it with disecting our motives on this as EGO?

/BAFFLED
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #65
68. Well I don't think I have anything backwards thankyou
And people who continue this are nothing more than political operatives to me. Just like the ones running any other campaign.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #68
72. I'm sad you think that way.
Because I'll bet a Baobab that our bookshelves look very similar.

Regardless which way thing go, we will be on the same team soon enough. Peace.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:53 AM
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73. No, I am on Al Gore's team
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #73
74. Awsome.
See? No wait required.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #74
80. It was already a given
I don't need him to have a title to support him. If he never won any awards, never wrote a book, never made a movie, I would still love and respect him for who he is. I didn't need you or anyone else to tell me that.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #72
107. What a great answer. Love it! n/t
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #68
77. What's YOUR M.O.?
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 09:18 AM by eowyn_of_rohan
Disruptor?
"Political operative"?
Wannabe insider?
Armchair anti-global warming activist?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #77
79. What's yours?
"Anti" global warmning activist? Boy you can't read, can you? Don't like my opinions and that I respect the man regardless of his address and think this crisis and his work on it is more important than the political BS going on, tough. And actually it is your post that is disruptive, mine was an opinion and it is just as valid as yours. Have a nice day.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #79
81. Why do you call yourself "Restore Gore"?
Restore him to WHAT? Thank you.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #81
84. Wow, how many people under how many names are going to ask that?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2001272&mesg_id=2012366

You would think with YOUR name you would have more vision. I hope this satisfies you.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #84
115. LOL- sorry for my redundant question, but really...
you don't expect everyone to have read every one of your posts, do you? Anyway, thanks for the link to your explanation of your name. :eyes: Quite a read

"It's none of your damned business why I chose this name, but if you must know...I worked my ass off in 2004 to do just that when it was THE time to do it to keep these bastards out and save our Democracy. People however didn't appear to give a shit about that then because it wasn't "politically expedient" and still don't in my view."

What silliness. You thought 2004 was "THE" time even though Al Gore himself thought otherwise? Al announced in 2002 that he would not run in 2004. He said "I made the decision in the full awareness that probably means that I will never again have an opportunity to run for president and I'm at peace with that decision." (Sounding to many of his (perhaps more savvy?) supporters as if he wished he WOULD have another opportunity?)

Many of us worked hard for Al in 2000. Did you? We understood and respected (with regret) his decision not to run in 2004. Did you, then, by working your "ass off" to "restore" him, show respect for him OR his decision? Yet you tell people here they are disrespectful, naive, ignorant, self-serving, etc., for asking him to run now. What a bunch of nonsense...

I still wonder about your M.O. but that's OK, some questions need not have answers.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #68
116. I've had enough of you trolling Gore threads.
And enough of you calling those who wish for a Gore presidency 'political operatives' and accusing them of 'harrassing' Gore.

Welcome to my ignore list - you're the first.

You must be going for the record here at DU.



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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #116
171. She's the first, and only, on my ignore list too. Ahh.... so much better!
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #116
179. I've been there for a while myself.
I'm truly surprised that ignored has yet to be nominated for a RITA award. It was very difficult to wade through the Harlequin fluff of her writings to take anything she said seriously anymore. :shrug:

That's why I always loved those "The One and Only Keeper....." posts. So fitting.

Welcome to serenity, lol. :hi:
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #179
191. "Harlequin fluff"

:rofl:

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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #30
67. 'Guess I'd better send my campaign contribution to Hillary then, eh?
Heh.

Get lost with this "I have proof but I'm not giving it up" utter BS!
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 11:24 PM
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34. I, for one, would welcome him to join the race
Actually I want him to jump in.

K&R


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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 11:45 PM
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36. if we build it, he will come...
i'm thinking a large waterslide onto the stage of the Democratic Convention '08.
:7
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:57 AM
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41. Let's see now - October 23rd is the filing deadline for Michigan.
There will be a candidates debate on CNN on November 2nd.

Sunday November 4th is exactly one year out from the 2008 election.

November 16th is the filing deadline for New Hampshire.

After that it would be too late for anyone to jump in.

But there is always the "deadlocked convention" scenario.

GORE-OBAMA 2008 :patriot:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com
www.americaforgore.org

:kick:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:59 AM
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42. Cross your bridges when you get to them...
...assuming they'll be there in the first place.

I hope to God Gore is no one's Plan A right now.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:41 AM
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43. Wouldn't it be ironic (or something)
if a President Gore used all the (BushCo/CHENEY) expanded powers of the presidency to make a real and rapid change in the trajectory of Global Warming?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #43
57. I can't believe you typed that
So you wouldn't care if we had a dictator as long as it was someone you support? One good reason for him NOT to do this.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #57
88. This is actually a good point.
I consider it a requirement that my candidate recognize executive power expansion and abuse.

On Government Balance: I want to hear talk of rescinding 'legislative' power and exclusion from law.
On Rights: I want to heat talk of restoring Habeas Corpus. Those would would Sacrifice Liberty (we all know the rest)...

A candidate that would embrace that power for a cause, any cause, is dangerous. Unfortunately, of the announce candidates, the one leading the polls is the one I consider the most dangerous. All that general electabillity stuff is secondary.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #57
132. That would be the "or something" part.
Have any candidates spoken of re-balancing power between the three branches of government? I don't recall.

I trust Gore would make decisions that are more strictly in keeping with the Constitution than is the current administration.


Yes, I do care RG. Thank you for being on your toes here. The changes we will likely have to face at some point will cause some to believe they are being denied "rights", shopping being the chief American right for some.

Of course the spirit of cooperation and sacrifice was once considered a duty when Americans faced true crisis.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #132
182. Yes. Chris Dodd primarily.
Richardson (Like Dean) as Governor I think inherently value pragmatism over power.

But I'm getting ahead of myself here...
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OmniOne Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:31 AM
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45. Al Gore Is Comin back!
I found this on youtube, and I think it's fantastic!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/SSbHmEhM0UE
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #45
87. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:52 AM
Response to Reply #45
91. did you make that video? I love it!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #45
122. Fun stuff
:toast:
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #45
165. Hi OmniOne
Welcome to DU :hi:
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #45
183. Welcome to the DU!
<3
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #45
192. Your first post, and I already like ya.
Welcome to DU, Omni!

:hi:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:51 AM
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46. He didn't lose in 2000
Run Al Run!!!
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:06 AM
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48. No better time than now
The process is being hijacked as we sit and watch it unfold.
Go Gore, Give us what we should have had all along !!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:26 AM
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49. Just imagine what will happen if Gore enters the race!
I think we'll hear an enormous sigh of relief across the country....People are ready for a leader and someone who can pull us together.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:27 AM
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50. I've given up on Gore.
If he's going to enter then he should do so.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:30 AM
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51. "to see if it was all worth doing again"
Is America "WORTH" it Al? Nobody else can put our broken country back together again, any better than Al Gore IMHO, so is America worth it Al.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:32 AM
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52. What are those "close" peoples' names?
Without mentioning that at this point this is just more speculative media BS. It is truly sad as well that with the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded in just two days with a significance with it for Mr. Gore to do great things regardless of his address IF he wins it, but more so the ability to get OTHERS to take action now, THIS is all the pulp we get as discussion. The same crap everyday. But yet NO urgency on the part of those people regarding global warming. And if there is, why is THIS crap on the greatest page and the entries regarding the findings posted just yesteday that it may already BE TOO LATE not even a blip on these forums? Assault On Reason is so right. If I didn't know any better I would say some people were hoping there would be no support of Mr. Gore's other efforts to force him to do this. I hope he continues to follow his heart then and not fall for articles like this that are obviously politically motivated and planned... maybe even by those "close" people who are only looking to use global warming as their reasoning.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:39 AM
Response to Reply #52
53. Bull
You simply assume that the people who are excited about Gore's potential candidacy have no urgency regarding global warming. Most likely these people have a great sense of urgency and are, therefore, hoping that Gore gets in the race because being the leader of the US is the best platform on which to effect change.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:04 AM
Response to Reply #53
55. Right back at you
And you assuming those who would print this tripe having a sense of urgency regarding this crisis ( oh yes, which was SO evident in this piece :sarcasm:) isn't ASSUMING? I actually hope if he IS going to say anything on it he does it soon just to stop the incessant whining and begging we are seeing.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:49 AM
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89. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #53
121. Do not question
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 11:57 AM by utopiansecretagent
The One & Only Keeper of Al Gore's Flame of Truth!

Known by many - and now known to me - as 'Ignored'.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #121
143. Ignore is your friend...
and mine. My serenity and peace of mind thank you, DU mods!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:32 AM
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58. This is the best news I have heard in a long time!
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 07:33 AM by RoccoR5955
I live in NY and I KNOW that I can get 10,000 signatures for Gore in a WEEK!
I'm in it. Let's see Gore run, and win... AGAIN!
Finally, maybe we can get a president we can be proud of. A president with a brain, for a change.
I will be petitioning in New York State for Gore. I don't care if I have to take time off from my job, this is WAAAAYYYYY too important!

I am taking on part of the responsibility of getting Gore on the ballot in New York!

When Gore runs, he WILL win!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #58
134. Thank you, RoccoR5955
may success be yours in this endeavor.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:48 AM
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59. Will he be coming around the mountain when he comes?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:54 AM
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60. I'm getting more and more skeptic about this
Although it would be ideal for me and many I know.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:57 AM
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61. Those closest have been MUTE.
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 08:04 AM by NastyDiaper
And just maybe. That's changing. Just a bit. I hope.

Statements from the announced candidates make me believe taht they recieved fair warning that a decision has not yet been made. Which make sense because he's told everyone that a decision has not been made. And that there was not even a timeline to make a decision. Nothing new there.

How people read People Close To GORE: "Convinced That He Is Looking For An Opportunity To Jump In The Race"

depends on whether you read Looking as similar to searching, or simply with observation.

Either way, Right now is Go-Time for Gore Supporters. Any chance is chance enough in my book.

So here's wishing those in New York and elsewhere success.
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #61
86. Check out...
page A-15 in today's New York Times. It's "go-time!"
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #86
159. WOOT Full Page NYT!
Been meaning to reply.

Took the paper to a late lunch.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:59 AM
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62. What is he waiting on? A burning bush? eom
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #62
69. I don't know how many ways he can say he isn't running, but even if he did
it one more time--there will still be folks out here who say "he's playing it brilliantly" and that he is "timing it just right to jump in." I don't know, maybe he'll announce on January 19, 2009.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #69
135. A simple "no" is sufficient.
It's what he said for '04.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:31 AM
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66. this will keep the Gore die-hards happy until early December and then
another thread will appear saying that Gore still hasn't ruled it out which will keep them going until February...
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #66
96. Agreed n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:43 AM
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70. A morning kick in hope of AL GORE running!
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #70
125. Early afternoon kick
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:46 AM
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71. I don't buy it.
He's had opportunities for a long time, and he's read the polls which suggest he'd be an also-ran.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #71
136. Which polls?
I'd like to add them to my decision making process. Thank you.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #136
139. These polls, among others...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #139
142. Thank you. (nt)
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #136
151. While you are in the decision making process
please see post #147 - Gore #1 in several state polls this summer, despite the fact he isn't even a candidate. I also wonder, how many people ignore the Gore option when responding to these polls because they have little confidence he would run.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #151
152. And I thank you as well. (nt)
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:17 AM
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78. There's what seems a small matter to us
but a big concern for Al Gore.

Despite Gore's reluctance to bask in Bill Clinton's limelight when running for president in 2000 my guess is that he still feels beholden to the man.

It would be hard on Gore to hurt Bill Clinton by running against his wife. Dirty pool really. I wouldn't take on the wife of a good friend no matter what. Neither should Al. While this may not seem to trump the good Gore could do in the race it is a matter of pride.

You do not diss the wife of a good friend. Under any circumstances.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #78
83. Is Bill Clinton a "good friend" of Al Gore?
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 09:29 AM by Apollo11
It strikes me that a good friend would have made the unselfish choice to resign in February 1999, right after 50 Senators voted that he was guilty of "obstruction of justice". Then we would now be in the 9th year of Al Gore's Presidency. B-)

How can you be sure that Al Gore knows about your rule about not dissing Bill's wife? :eyes:

Interview with Al Gore in 01238 Magazine (Sept-Oct 2007)

Will you endorse a candidate in the primary?


GORE: Odds are that I will.

Who?

GORE: I haven’t made that decision yet.

Do you feel some obligation to endorse the wife of your former boss?

GORE: Uh … no. I have friendships with her and with the other candidates, and they’re all on equal footing at this point as far as I’m concerned.

Are you advising any candidates?

GORE: No.

http://www.02138mag.com/magazine/article/1485.html

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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:52 AM
Response to Reply #78
92. You gotta go read that Vanity Fair article.
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 09:54 AM by lildreamer316
I did read it online; and then had to wait around for something yesterday so I bought the actual magazine.

Whoo-fuckin--hooo.

I don't think he's gonna have a damn problem running against Bill's wife.

You GOTTA read that article. Lemme see if I can dig up that link.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/11/clinton200711
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #92
108. WOW
I read the whole article. Thanks for posting.

Has anybody posted this as a separate topic, lildreamer? If not, please do it.

Some really good background as to why Gore should have NO problems if he wants to run against Hillary. None at all.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #108
112. Here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1954309

and

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1952710

I think they did drop off the front page fairly quickly, though.

It sure is an interesting read; yes. I have to admit I had idealized the Clintons a bit more than probably was prudent, but I have to remember "Primary Colors", also.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #78
94. interesting comment
but aren't we in new territory here?

I mean how many times has it happened that the spouse of a prez (or high govt rep) is ALSO running for prez? Anywhere?

So I'm not sure the old rules of friendship and conduct apply. It certainly can't be construed as "dirty pool" if Al were to enter the race.

Hillary has made it abundantly clear that she speaks for herself and is not to be seen as Billary.

It seems sexist when you say, "you do not diss the wife of a good friend." Don't you mean--you do not diss the spouse of a good friend?

I say the gloves are off at this level of politics. You must have the confidence to knock off your opponent, no matter what the damage to certain relationships.

I don't think Hillary would worry about stomping on Al if he came in! LOL She'd get on that job right away!
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:29 AM
Response to Reply #94
197. I'm a little old fashioned that way
So call me sexist if your want. However I would not take the limelight away from a good friend's wife, Simple as that. I expect Al Gore thinks that way about Hillary and Bill too.

I really don't see how that thought is "sexist" anyway. I still grant women a few free passes even in the year 2007. Some guy disses your wife in my company? He gets my choice of of a twisted elbow or a set of broken teeth. Simple as that.

On all other levels though I'm a good Liberal.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 04:13 AM
Response to Reply #197
198. OK whatever turns you on...
protecting dissers from your wife. Maybe she could handle it short of everybody beating each other up?

I don't think Hillary needs any "protecting"....LOL --Anyone who opposes her may need protecting. Why do you think she appeals to women so much? Because that's exactly what she represents--freedom from that smarmy/polite paternalistic stranglehold. Al Gore certainly wouldn't pull any punches because Hillary is somebody's wife. Most women wouldn't want him to. Would you lighten up on Obama because he's black? I hope not. To do that is not a gift. Makes people weak.

"Free passes for women???" Nothing, nothing, nothing in America --is ever, ever, ever FREE. (My code for survival in this country. I tell it to foreigners who are sometimes confused about that).

So how do you feel when I say "I will "grant" you a free pass on this since you're a good liberal." Doesn't feel quite right, does it? Guess what, that's how women feel. :)

-----------

Whatever Al would do in the race, I think he'd laugh at the idea that he should be extra nice to "Bill's wife." He's more balanced than that.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #78
119. I think Gore considers Bill merely a friend.
Bill's lies about Monica were a major factor in making it hard for Gore to win in 2000 and it is well known that their friendship experienced major cooling as a result. Also, Hillary and Al have nver been close.

Most importantly, Hillary has been so wrong on Iraq for so long, that it could be a major motivator for putting him in the race. Remember in 2003 when Lieberman thought his friendship with Gore would get him an endorsement. Instead Gore endorsed the only viable Democrat who was right about Iraq, i.e. Howard Dean.

If Gore does not run, the chances for world civilization will be diminished. Surely he understands this and would not make Bill's feelings a major factor in that equation.

I hope he will run. If not, my lifelong affection for the Democratic Party will be greatly diminished.
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #78
137. Personally, I doubt that that is any part of the consideration whatsoever....n/t
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:12 AM
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97. YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!
Now is the time to come to the aid of your country, Al.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:14 AM
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98. I will sleep much better when President Gore is in charge
Believe in Miracle! :kick:
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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:25 AM
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99. Gore has been running the most brilliant campaign the past couple of years
I don't see how people can pay attention to what he's been up to and say that, without a doubt, he is not planning on getting into the race. He's been smart not to announce his candidacy prematurely. He's been able to talk about the issues that matter to him, rather than discussing his campaign or other non-issues that the MSM likes to focus on. He hasn't been hiding or laying low, he's been out there - a movie, the oscars, a best-selling book, a tour, speaking to the UN... Gore is getting as much attention as any other candidate without having to say he wants to be president. People are begging him to do it, and that fact is finally getting national attention.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:31 AM
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101. California wasn't mentioned
in this article, and I question the numbers of petition signatories for New York and Michigan. We need 500 in each of California's 53 Congressional districts. The state has been divided up into 5 areas with coordinators and volunteers all getting to work TODAY!

We have until December 4, but I'm thinkin' we'll be done long before that.

:hi:
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #101
153. You are a planetary hero. n/t
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:41 AM
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103. If he ran, I'd be glad to let Obama get some more experience before becoming president.
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 10:41 AM by Kablooie
I think Obama has presidential ability and should be president someday.

But Gore has experience and moral authority and also should be president if he feels he wants to.

I'd be willing to let Obama wait to give Gore his chance right now.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #103
123. Obama as Gore's vice
is A-OK with me.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:56 AM
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104. "people close to the former vice-president"... I've heard THAT story before.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:58 AM
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105. Fingers.Still.Crossed.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:04 AM
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106. Opportunity doesn't beg that often.
This is an opportunity.
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:17 AM
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110. I'm still holding out for Gore
I don't like any of the candidates currently running. DLC/Republican-lite isn't my cup of tea.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:41 AM
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118. I think we forget that Gore is running third...
He has never been higher than 20% in the polls, and he has never been any higher than third place among Democrats.

I think the push for Al is mostly a netroots phenomenon. He does not connect as much with the rank-and-file electorate, IMO.

http://surveys.ap.org/data/Ipsos/national/2007-10-04%20AP%202008%20Election%20Topline-October.pdf
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #118
145. you are overlooking the blatantly obvious
he has been running that high in the polls,
and he has not even announced his candidacy

You can bet your bottom dollar that none of the other candidates would be showing up in the polls if they hadn't officially declared.

Gore is a Phenomenon.
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #145
154. Another factor is the MSM,
which has repeatedly misreported, asserting that Gore is definitely not going to run. That is probably a loss of 3-5 points for the undeclared Gore.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #118
147. This past summer Al Gore was #1 in several state polls
Wisconsin
June 19, 2007
http://www.gazetteextra.com/eln_prezpoll062007.asp
University of Wisconsin Survey Center's Badger Poll
"Gore pulled the best numbers from Democrats even though he's not in the race. He was viewed favorably by 62 percent of survey respondents, followed by New York Sen. Hillary Clinton with 60 percent. Illinois Sen. Barack Obama came in third with 57 percent followed by John Edwards at 54 percent."

New Hampshire
June 27, 2007
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0607/4692.html
A New Hampshire presidential poll by WHDH-TV and Suffolk University shows that local Democrats prefer Al Gore to any of the current contenders...37 percent of likely Democratic voters backing Clinton or leaning towards her. Barack Obama was at 19 percent, with both John Edwards and Bill Richardson at 9 percent...Al Gore, however, could enter the race as the leader. When his name is added, Clinton loses more than a quarter of her support, while Gore is backed by 32 percent.

Michigan
August 15, 2007
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007708150398
Detroit News/WXYZ-TV Poll
Michigan voters favor Gore, Thompson
Former Tennessee Sen. and TV star Fred Thompson would lead the GOP pack and former Vice President Al Gore would top the Democratic slate should they decide to run, according to a statewide survey of 400 likely Republican and 400 likely Democratic primary voters in Michigan... When his name is included in the field, Gore gets 36 percent support compared to 32 percent for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, 16 percent for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and 8 percent for former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards

Scottsdale, Arizona
August 23rd, 2007
http://fromtheleft.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/gore-favored-by-scottsdale-az-dems/
Gore Favored by Scottsdale, AZ Dems
The straw poll placed Gore at the top of the field with 51 percent of the votes, followed by former senator John Edwards with 17 percent, national front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton with 14 percent, Sen. Barack Obama by 9 percent, Sen. Joe Biden by 6 percent and Rep. Dennis Kucinich by 3 percent...Al Gore continues to be the Democrats favorite candidate despite the fact he has not announced he intends to run for president in 2008. Such showings also reveal the weak-as-water support for Sen. Hillary Clinton amongst likely Democratic voters.

ANY OTHERS?
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:13 PM
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124. Run Al!
I wanted you in 2000 and that feeling hasn't gone away.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:14 PM
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126. Ga-Ga for Gore
:D

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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:17 PM
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127. I'm gonna keep kicking threads like this...
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 12:20 PM by RiverStone
Until the end of October - but if Al is still out of then - it will be time to fold the tent.



peace~:)
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:12 PM
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138. You guys are such idealists nt
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freestyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:36 PM
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144. The opportunity was the 2004 election. Gore passed on it.
Right now, I have lots of respect for Al Gore for his environmental work. In fact, I have regained a lot of the respect I lost for him after he rolled over for the theft of the 2000 election. The time to come back and avenge that crime was 2004. Now, he would be a complete opportunist. He should just keep on doing the awesome work of being an ambassador for the Earth.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:46 PM
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146. Life imitates art...
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 01:46 PM by Javaman
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:53 PM
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156. Art imitates art...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x858649#858993

:D

And I think there's an even earlier thread started by DUer incapsulated similar to that. But I'm tired and hardly remember shit anymore.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:00 PM
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160. Yeah, there was. I'm inspired by them. :) nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:52 PM
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181. Me too! (nt)
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:32 PM
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193. Gawddam- that thread has 1070 posts! n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:40 AM
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196. It takes well over an hour to read.
But it seems like ten. :D
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:54 PM
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157. Run Al Run
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:07 PM
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161. Opportunity is knocking on your door..
ringing the doorbell and shaking your windows!! Run Al, Run!!
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:05 PM
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166. Please Al Run!
I have no more words of insight left. Just run please.........
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:06 PM
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167. come on in the water is fine...
it may have taken 8 years but you should have your rightful place...
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:07 PM
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168. From his spokeswoman today:
"Kalee Kreider, a spokeswoman for Gore, said he ``truly appreciates the sentiment behind the ad today, however he has no plans for running for president.'"

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=amw.PUfLC6Og&refer=home
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:36 PM
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172. Yes, that is the phrase he's been using too... "has no plans "
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:58 PM
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174. "looking for an opportunity" = HRC drop out of race
which won't happen and AG won't run.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:13 PM
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176. Gore could announce in his PJs like Nixon. Knowing he'd be the next president
But why would he take on the job of cleaning up Bush's mess? The next president will have his hands tied to being a political janitor of republican trash. Al would have to carry a big trash can around with him with plenty of roach spray. It's a big job to clean up this mess and a large burden to assume. It's asking a lot unless someone feels compelled to do it. Perhaps Gore would prefer to be remembered for what he has already accomplished rather than work himself to death straightening out a mess that should never have happened in the first place. We love ya Al no matter what you decide about politics for doing such great work on global warming. Thanks .
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:22 PM
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185. Please let it be true!
I truly feel like he's the only person who can speak for me.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:58 PM
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190. What would Clinton do if he stepped into the race
how would the polls look?
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Solar_Power Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:44 PM
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195. Gore > Clinton
But it may be too late now

C'mon Al, this country needs you.
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:46 AM
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201. Risk losing all friendship with the Clinton's, or try to save the nation as president.
I think it's going to be a difficult choice. He's been in politics before, he knows he'll be attacked daily by peers and press for any decisions he makes. Fighting the powerful machine of lobbyists and corporations. Congress seems to move so slowly to get anything done. He'd be excellent at energy conservation and finding alternatives but he's also got to deal with health care, foreign relations, war, veterans health, Katrina victims, infrastructure, economy etc. This makes my head spin. He's got quite a battle ahead of him to think of. I do think at some point, he should address the public if only to respond to their ad and all their thousands of requests.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 04:54 AM
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199. Oh Hell Yeah!
:woohoo:
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