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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 03:27 PM
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Continuing with the Lincoln theme - a most excellent quote.
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 03:47 PM by ourbluenation
"Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose, and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect, after having given him so much as you propose. If to-day he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, — 'I see no probability of the British invading us;' but he will say to you, 'Be silent: I see it, if you don't.'

"The provision of the Constitution giving the war making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons: Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This our convention understood to be the most oppressive of all kingly oppressions, and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us.

Abraham Lincoln

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http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/02/lincoln_on_pree.html
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 03:49 PM
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1. a reader responds to the quote - I thought it was worth sharing.
...Writing 150 years ago, Lincoln hit upon the primal cause of the whole sorry tragedy of our past four years: we turned our president into a king, and we allowed him to act as kings do, waging useless wars with our children and our treasure for their own self-aggrandizement.

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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:55 PM
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2. here's another nugget.
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
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