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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:09 PM
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Holy MOTHER Of MASSIVE MASSIVE HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!! (My Brain Blew-up)
"I have commented before on the problems with central planning in health care. I certainly am not convinced that a government-run system is the answer, but I do agree with Krugman that there are serious problems with our health insurance system, particularly in the market for individually-purchased (non-group) coverage.

After my husband quit his job earlier this year (to become a full-time stay-at-home dad), we had a choice. We could either buy health insurance from his former employer through a program called COBRA at a cost of more than $1,000 per month(!) or we could go it alone in Maryland’s individual market. Given our financial circumstances, that “choice” wasn’t much of a choice at all. We had to go on our own.

We discovered that the most generous plans in Maryland’s individual market cost $700 per month yet provide no more than $1,500 per year of prescription drug coverage–a drop in the bucket if someone in our family were to be diagnosed with a serious illness.

With health insurance choices like that, no wonder so many people opt to go uninsured."

--Michelle Malkin

:wow:

http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2007/10/guess-the-autho.html
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:11 PM
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1. Remember for the Rethuglicans if it happens to them it's a special
situation...but if it happens to other Americans than it's not important.

Michelle Malkin....."Republican Rose"
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:56 PM
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24. That's it exactly.
For them, compassion means "feel sorry for me."

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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:13 PM
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2. That is a DUzy of a headline
Is that for real? Michelle Malkin wrote that?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:16 PM
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3. ezra wants to debate Michelle.
what a fantasy
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:17 PM
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4. I call it Malkin Crazy.
:) :(
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:17 PM
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5. Maybe We Need To Torture And Wiretap Republicans
Put 'em in jail and deny habeas corpus. Fire them and outsource their jobs to China or India. Set off car bombs in their driveways.

Then maybe they'll get a clue.

(I'm kinda liking this idea...)
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:17 PM
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6. Lady quit your whining and get a second job and stop
demanding that a nanny government to take care of your problems for you.

:sarcasm:

Hey, isn't she married to Carville? She wants us to believe he's a stay at home dad?

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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:24 PM
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8. Wrong assclown.
Carville has even worse tastes.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:21 PM
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7. She should get second job to pay for insurance.
That is what conservatives tell everyone else.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:25 PM
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9. Frankly, WTF did he quit his job
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 09:30 PM by Gman
if he was the only one providing benefits?

Now that I think about it, is someone eligible for COBRA if they quit? I thought COBRA was for people laid off or otherwise left their job involuntarily?
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:40 PM
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22. COBRA is for those who are no longer covered through the 'group' they were with...
be it by termination or voluntary actions.

For example, 5 years ago I divorced my husband. We were covered through his employer through a family plan at less than $200 per month. I was offered a COBRA plan at almost $800 per month for just myself. Needless to say, I could not afford it.

I now have coverage with my current employer at under $150 per month which will be going up in 2008 to $200 per month.That is for basically a major medical plan. But I take it because 1.) I'm not getting any younger at 55 and 2.) where else can I find any coverage for a like amount or less?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:07 AM
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27. From the DOL website:
Qualifying Events for Employees:

*

Voluntary or involuntary termination of employment for reasons other than gross misconduct

http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_cobra.html
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:32 PM
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10. Private Individual Insurance is a scam
They WILL always exclude for pre-existi9ng conditions.
They consider ALL conditions to be "Pre-existing" regardless of medical evidence to the contrary.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:34 PM
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11. she should be all atwitter with excitement -- the system is working
just the her kind of folk want.

oh wait -- it screwed her -- and that's the problem.
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Indykatie Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:37 PM
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13. COBRA Available Under All Scenarios of Job Loss
voluntary or otherwise for up to 36 months.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:35 PM
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12. heh heh heh you fucking witch, you half baked fuckwit! Get it now?
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 09:36 PM by lonestarnot
(Not you beetwasher) MM Mother of Murk.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:38 PM
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14. Now I agree with you words, some are very deserving .
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:49 PM
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17. Peace sista!
:hug:
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:40 PM
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15. She needs to pull herself up by her bootstraps....
:sarcasm:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:42 PM
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16. FMLA was an option, it appears & COBRA premiums are 102% of the group rate for 18 months.
The 1993 Family Medical Leave Act - thank you Democrats - which would have continued group coverage for a period of time, with an employer/employee premium split would seem to have been an option Malkin's husband passed by.

And COBRA premiums are 102% of the group rate, although paid entirely by the insured and only good for 18 months. If the COBRA rate was $1,000, then the group premium was ~$980. The husband's increase out of pocket would be dependent on the original employer/employee split.

Coupling the two federally mandated programs was probably a good option. But that would be socialistic, commie perversion. :sarcasm:

Oh, and Ms. Malkin, COBRA was a 1986 bipartisan bill enacted by a Dem. controlled House and a Rep. controlled Senate, signed by A Rep. President.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:50 PM
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18. Thank you pinto.
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 09:50 PM by lonestarnot
Is that a paint horse or a bean?
on edit: I always wanted to ask and haven't.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 10:47 PM
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20. paint horse.
:hi:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 09:38 AM
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31. My favorite horse of all times was a paint (pinto)
Beautiful horse. :hug:
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:45 PM
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23. Bullshit
the COBRA I was offered was quadruple that of the premium my ex had been paying when my divorce became final.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:52 AM
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30. I'm Just Wondering Why They Didn't Consider Selling Their House?
Right? :shrug:
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:52 PM
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19. I do hope if she or her husband get sick, they survive
And pay, and pay, and pay...
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WGS Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:25 PM
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21. That's not
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 11:30 PM by WGS
very nice to say, even if you don't like someone. I don't see the hypocrisy either. Her comments would only be hypocritical if she had failed to purchase insurance and then used government aid instead.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:58 PM
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25. hey, I'd hit it.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:07 AM
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26. This thread is useless without pics.
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:09 AM
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29. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Absolutely priceless, Rev!

Leave it to a Cheesehead... :D

Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:32 AM
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28. "no wonder so many people opt to go uninsured"
"opt"? Word to Michelle, to "opt" would imply you have a choice or an option. When you don't have a choice you don't "opt". It's call being SOL. In your case your husband quit his job. You opted out of your insurance. A lot of people don't have that luxury.
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