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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:09 PM
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PNAC: "Going Soft on Iran:" Realists vs. Idealogues; Iran WMDs, and Al Queda IN IRAN.
Damn, I can't copy and paste from this PDF document. But it is very interesting, worth a read. Basically it outlines the PNAC position on Iran, which naturally is "go get 'em, and NOW."

It claims a distinction between Ideologue policy and Realist policy, and pretty much eschews the realists (particularly from the Bush 1 Presidency). It claims Iran harbors Al Queda terrorists, and that Iran has secret WMD programs that it hid from the IAEA. At the end, it pretty much encourages Bush to take military action: get them before they get us. The same thing we heard on Iraq. Suprise suprise suprise!

Anyway they are clearly worried Bush is listening to the advice of the realists as opposed to their ideological/neocon views. Will the neocon PNAC policy win over the realists? That is yet to be determined, but if history is any judge, the answer would be a resounding yes.

NOTE: This document is from 2004, therefore they do not mention Ahmadinejad.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iran-20040301.pdf
(PDF document)
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:16 PM
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1. Oh, yes..........
And you need to read the document that advocates removing 2/3 of the world's population (please note, they didn't say how that would occur, but the US has gone back to research on biological warfare).

I detest these people, truly.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:21 PM
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2. We must also purge any Neo-Cons from the Democratic party too.
These people are truely a danger to the world.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 04:37 PM
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3. And there are a few of them
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 04:39 PM by magellan
Here's a list of the Dems who serve/d as "special advisors" for The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD), a neoconservative think tank (regardless of their claim to be non-partisan; see the link for background info):

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) - 'Distinguished adviser'
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY)
Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY)
Rep. Jim Marshall (D-GA)
Donna Brazile

There are doubtless many other Dems affiliated with neocon think tanks like these.

edited for clarity
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:24 PM
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6. Schumer, really?
I guess you don't know who to trust.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:45 PM
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7. That's what the Right Web says
If you check the link in my post you'll see they appear to have done a great deal of research on the FDD and who's connected to it. (Or was at the time of writing; it appears to be about a year out of date.)

Remember too: we aren't supposed to trust the government. This may be just another example of why.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:47 PM
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8. the correct term is neo-liberal
yes they should go away or join their brethren in the neo-con movement. i tired of the "white man`s burden"
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:20 PM
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4. Do you have a link?
I'd really like to read that.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:51 PM
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9. Go to the PNAC Website
And download "Rebuilding America's Defences"

http://www.newamericancentury.org/defensenationalsecurity.htm

“Advanced forms of biological warfare that can target entire genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically-useful tool.”
– Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, in PNAC’s Rebuilding America’s Defenses

“Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world.”
– Dr. Henry Kissinger, National Security Study Memo 200

The biowarfare stuff is partly at:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ROS20070205&articleId=4688
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:22 PM
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5. That's a chilly thought!
:scared:
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