The 2000 steal had 30 years of steals behind it . . .

[defendandprotect]

What happened in 2000 was simply that the steal was more visible than usual --
in fact, they had to take it to the Supreme Court to steal it --
but it's been going on for decades and two journalists investigated the computer steals for more than twenty years.

I think it's important to get this into the records --
and fortunately the family of the two journalists who wrote the book -- Jim & Ken Collier --
have put the book on line. You can read it, or any part of it here.

http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm

Thank you, Barnard L. Collier!!

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Votescam -- "The Stealing of America" was published in 1992 by Victoria Press and is in its THIRD PRINTING --
Since the publication eight years ago, the major bookstores have banned its display.
It has been removed from the index of the Library of Congress, and falsely rumored to be out of print.
It is without a doubt, one of the most dangerous and important books still in circulation in America.

"Why can't we vote the bastards out? Because we didn't even vote the bastards in."

Re primaries . . . p.16
"There are lawyers who will argue that the party primary election is essentially an intra-party matter over which "outsiders" have no legal rights. That, in fact, if a political party wants to rig its elections, it can do so without violation of federal, state or local laws.

As long as men and women in charge of the vote count are on the take, or can be persuaded that tampering is "good for the party," that one candidate should win no matter what the vote count is -
then wholesale vote rigging throughout America can be accomplished quite easily."


Has the press known all along?
"It was an intriguing thought. We knew the press was capable of keeping candidates who didn't spend advertising dollars from getting publicity, but was it possible they would actually protect the people pulling this off?"

"ABC-Web-site --
Apparently ABC had posted the results of the off-year election on their Homepage -- the day before the election. Was it the work of a whistle-blower? ABC was already calling it a definite mistake.
That night, Sam Donaldson explained that the page of posted results was a sample page, just to see how the vote results would look on their Website the next day. Got that??

[Demeter]

1. Thanks for the Post and Link! I Will Be Reading Directly!

[defendandprotect]

4. It's not about reading the whole thing; it's simply about understand steals didn't start in 2000 --

[Richard Steele]

2. K&R

[defendandprotect]

3. Think we really have to get DUers to understand how far back the steals go --- !!!!!

[glitch]

5. K & R nt

[morningglory]

6. I think there was a huge effort in Florida to steal for Dole vs. Clinton.

After being sickened by the theft in 2004, I researched which precincts went for sh*thead, supposably. My precinct is squeezed between 2 bayous and a bay.There is no growth here, because the old people in their old houses with waterfront views have absolutely no interest in selling their old home places to big 20-story-condo developers. Through the housing boom, very few places changed hands. The precinct always goes Dem, even though we are surrounded by red precincts. Voting always took 20 minutes, never a line. In 1996 (was it?) suddenly there were not enough voting booths (old punch card system). We had to wait hours. I went to vote from work and pooped out with all the waiting and went home. My husband stood in line starving for hours to vote for Clinton. It was warm and not raining, though. People left in droves. The Election Supervisor had held the job as long as I can remember, a verrry cushy job in our relatively poor county, $80,000 per year for very little work. The very next election, her sorry ass was g.o.n.e. Looking back on it, I am convinced they were doing whatever they could to get Clinton out, in more ways than one.

[defendandprotect]

7. Ironically, FLORIDA was where the Jim + Ken Collier began to realize what was going on . . ..

And, of course, in 2000, Miami-Dade was the center of the awakening ---

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2018859

Somewhere in the beginning of the book -- which is available at the link above --
they talk about Florida and what was going down .... really early on.

THIS is why I fear 2008 . . .

[Kurovski]

8. Kick. (nt)

[OneBlueSky]

9. I remember reading about these guys a couple of years back . . .

and being fascinated -- an appalled -- at what they'd uncovered . . . been meaning to buy their book, but never got around to it . . . I'd still like to read it, though, so may indeed place an order . . .

thanks for posting this critical info . . . makes you wonder if everything we learned in school was complete bullshit . . .

[defendandprotect]

10. You can read it ON LINE . .. HERE'S LINK . .. PASS IT ALONG--!!

link HERE ---

http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm


I also heard book was "out of print" but untrue --
It's in third reprint -- it's sold rather expensively as a "used" book
and also at the VOTESCAM website, sold new, inexpensively

BUT AGAIN . . . FAMILY HAS MADE IT AVAILABLE ON LINE -- THANKS COLLIERS!!!

Repeating:
VOTESCAM - "The Stealing of America" book on line --
by Jim + Ken Collier, pub. 1992/paperback
http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm

Keep in mind the MSM is barely talking about the outright steals of 2000 and 2004 . . .
and this has been going on since the late 1960's . . .
Imagine the unwarranted and corrupt influences that have done harm to the nation since then!!!

Well -- when I was in school there were no computers -- but we did hear a lot of BS nonetheless!!!

Pass the world along -- OK?