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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:44 PM
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Two Saudis To Receive 7,000 Lashes For Committing "Homosexual Acts"
Hey if we can attack Iran for persecuting gays, why not our best "ally" - the Saudis?


http://nationalgaynews.com/content/view/1796/173/

Two Saudi men were to receive 7,000 lashes each for committing 'homosexual acts,' Saudi Okaz newspaper reported Thursday.

Saudi authorities started executing the court order Tuesday, which had been divided into separate phases, the report added.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22532620-23109,00.html

Men get 7000 lashes for sodomyFrom correspondents in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
October 04, 2007 08:56pm
Article from: Agence France-PresseFont size: + -

TWO men in Saudi Arabia have been sentenced to 7000 lashes each after being convicted of sodomy and have received their first round of punishment in public, a newspaper said today.

The men, who were not identified, were meted out an unspecified number of lashes in public in the the southwestern city of Al-Bahah on Tuesday evening, the Al-Okaz daily reported.

They were then returned to prison where they are to be held until the full punishment is completed, the newspaper added, without saying how many sessions this would involve.

Homosexual acts are illegal in Saudi Arabia, which metes out strict punishment based on sharia, or Islamic law....

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:46 PM
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1. Isn't like a hundred usually fatal?
Jesus.

Makes "The Passion of the Christ" look like bedtime without supper...
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:47 PM
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2. I love our allies don't you?
This kind of shit just makes me sick.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:00 PM
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7. Agree, aren't the ones who did nine one one from that country?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:49 PM
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3. Sentenced to death, is more like it.
7,000 lashes??? They'll be dead long before they reach that mark.

And Bush holds hands with these people. :grr:

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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:52 PM
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6. I don't think they do them all in one day
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:12 PM
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12. Actually he kisses them
I say 7,000 lashes are in order

God bless these poor men. Can't the US offer refuge to such targets of terror?
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:50 PM
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4. Remember, the Saudi family are friends of Bush .. the ones we see him ..
kissing and holding hands with.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:51 PM
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5. What a hell-hole of a country....and our strongest 'ally'....n/t
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:01 PM
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8. either them
or the israelies, either way what great allies we have.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:17 PM
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21. I very simply ask you
would you rather be gay in Israel or in Saudi Arabia?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:03 PM
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9. its their culture. nt.
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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:38 PM
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15. There should be some absolutes in this world, regardless of culture
I didn't see a sarcasm GIF, so I assume you were being serious (or devil's advocate)
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:47 PM
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19. our culture at one point embraced slavery

Was that OK too?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:09 PM
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20. ...and it sucks!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:19 AM
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40. So was slavery here, are you cool with that?
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:05 PM
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10. I ask you, what's more perverse?
I simply can not understand how this sort of violence and repression can be sanctioned by anything or anyone remotely "holy". It's an atrocity.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:06 PM
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11. This is more of a crime. By a long shot.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:03 AM
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45. yep cboy4, I'd say you got PLENTY of evidence assimilated right there in that photo
to prove b*shbuggery was goin' on later in that field!

amazing that a country where MEN routinely kiss other MEN on the mouths when they meet, beats and kills gay men for being in love!

:crazy:
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:22 PM
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13. Um, that 's a little high.......
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 01:23 PM by sshan2525
The only thing that would be left of them after 7,000 lashes would be a pink stain.....
Also, try swinging a whip even 100 times. 7,000 and your arm would fall off.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:31 PM
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14. I think that's too harsh, they should cap these at 1000 or so...Do you think Bush can talk his buddy
Into making the change?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:39 PM
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16. I wonder who caught them.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:44 PM
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17. Sounds like they'll let the first set of lashes heal, then start again.
a long, long, and very painful sentence.

The men, who were not identified, were meted out an unspecified number of lashes in public in the the southwestern city of Al-Bahah on Tuesday evening, the Al-Okaz daily reported.

They were then returned to prison where they are to be held until the full punishment is completed, the newspaper added, without saying how many sessions this would involve.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:46 PM
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:30 PM
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25. That is so wrong.
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 03:33 PM by Karmageddon
And so funny!
Now I need a kleenex to clean to mountain dew off my keyboard.

On the other hand, it makes me sick that we call these sick twisted backwards sonsabitches our allies.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 05:53 PM
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35. FUNNY???
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 05:56 PM by whereismyparty
Can you please explain what is funny about this?

It's a death sentence. And a horribly sadistic one at that...

ON EDIT: Nevermind. I thought you were replying to the OP, now I see you were responding to the deleted message, which I didn't read. Sorry.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:44 PM
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26. Don't send the Utube to Savage: He's already homo-erotic enough.
I found his show by accident driving home the other night, and he's all about whipping homosexuals in the street...it's wierd.

Someone please let Savage out of the closet.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:20 PM
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22. i wonder what the punishment is for masochism...?
but i'll bet that it hurts so good.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:23 PM
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23. can we send
Larry Craig to them?
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:23 AM
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41. That is mean
(You don't mean it)

Even that poor bastard, wide stance, toe-tapper.. liar... does not deserve anythong like this... Nobody does.)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:25 PM
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24. The Saudis are our masters too didn't you know?
The man behind the curtain who animates the Wizard of Bush/Cheney?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:52 PM
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27. If Busholini is a Christian, as he claims to be, wouldn't he
ask his buddies to stop this brutality?
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:10 PM
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28. Why is the media silent about this?
Isnt this a far greater injustice than Ahmedinejad not acknowleging gays is Iran?

Why was that given so much coverage?

Is it because Saudis are our good "allies" and Iran an adversary?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 08:58 PM
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38. er, no.
If all that happens to gays in Iran is that they aren't acknowledged, that would be true. But seeing as gays are publically hung in Iran for homosexuality, it's not.

Having said that, this in no better. It's absolutely disgusting and that no one in our government says boo, while they're all willing to condemn Iran for it, reeks of cynicism and hypocrisy.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:50 PM
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29. K&R
This needs to be heard round the world.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:57 PM
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31. An Ahmedinejad Spinmeister recently amended the statement
by saying that Ahmedinejad meant to say there are not "as many" Gay persons in Iran as in America. It is almost amusing that they back tracked on the stupid statement which was laughed at.

Saudi Arabia is a brutal Dictatorship, which is supported by the Bush Crime Family. Busholini once said that beheading was barbaric. He did not add that the Saudis use it as Capital Punishment.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:54 PM
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30. This is so horrible
I have no words.

I want to scream.

WTF is wrong with these assholes?????

Why are these fuckwits our allies?

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 05:01 PM
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32. "Why are these fuckwits our allies?"
Do you seriously not know?

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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 05:39 PM
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33. Of course I know
It is a rhetorical comment - not really a question
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 05:41 PM
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34. Ahh.... Yes.
Oil
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 06:55 PM
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36. kick
This should be on page 1 of GD today. :kick:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 08:50 PM
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37. They don't do it all at once
These guys are probably getting groups of fifty lashes, with two weeks between floggings.

That works out to 280 weeks (23 years, four months) in prison with trips to the whipping post every two weeks.

Ouch.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:56 PM
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39. My God. That is horrible.
They probably won't make it that long. What a horrible punishment.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:45 AM
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42. i wonder how they define "homosexual acts"
they certainly don't mean hand holding
i've seen the top dogs doing it with bushy

and they certainly don't mean kissing
i've seen them playing kissy face with george too



so...with all this kissing and touching, what the fuck are they so uptight about??
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:10 AM
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43. That is sick.
And what's sicker, is that they are our beloved "ally". :puke:

And the M$M won't touch this with a ten foot poll.

Freedom and democracy!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:49 AM
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44. 40 lashes were considered by the Roman empire to be fatal
Their maximum flogging sentence of 40 lashes was therefore actually "forty minus one" or 39. Anything more than that was considered an appropriate punishment only for infractions that justified the death penalty. Up until a couple of centuries ago British sea captains and others had the same limit for the same reason.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:25 AM
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46. Larry Craig should be appointed ambassador to Saudi Arabia
he would be comfortable in that anti gay environment
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:27 AM
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47. One more reason to make ending dependence on foreign oil our national priority
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 08:27 AM by slackmaster
It would be really great if we could spread our version of Democracy, equality, freedom, and justice to all the people in the world who live under authoritarian regimes (I say with a dose of sarcasm).

But it's not our job. They're not going to listen to us while we are forcefully taking control of their natural resources.

The moment they see that we are serious about developing clean, renewable energy and stop invading their territory, they will change their behavior toward us and maybe even cut prices.

They hate our culture and our imperialism, but they love our money.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:41 AM
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48. This is your future, Imperial Subjects of Amerika
unless the Bushies, both the smart and evil who lead them and the unquestioning fools who follow, are st=opped before they finish tranistioning America.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:20 AM
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49. At least the executioner wears a tasteful, yet so heterosexual, Hawaiian shirt to the public torture
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:05 PM
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50. so disturbing..... that image is so disturbing....
I pray for that young man...

those sick bastards. :cry:
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