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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:55 PM
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MSNBC BREAKING - Kansas education board OKs evolution-centered science
I think I'm going to be sick :puke:

How can this even be up for debate?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17132925/

TOPEKA, Kan. - The Kansas state Board of Education on Tuesday repealed science guidelines questioning evolution that had made the state an object of ridicule.

The new guidelines reflect mainstream scientific views of evolution and represent a political defeat for advocates of “intelligent design,” who had helped write the standards that are being jettisoned.

The intelligent design concept holds that life is so complex that it must have been created by a higher authority.

The state has had five sets of standards in eight years, with anti- and pro-evolution versions, each doomed by the seesawing fortunes of socially conservative Republicans and a coalition of Democrats and moderate Republicans.

The board on Tuesday removed language suggesting that key evolutionary concepts — such as a common origin for all life on Earth and change in species creating new ones — were controversial and being challenged by new research. Also approved was a new definition of science, specifically limiting it to the search for natural explanations of what is observed in the universe.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:56 PM
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1. don't forget the ID idiots were voted out in Dover, PA too
There is some light left in this country, thank goodness.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:10 PM
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19. amen n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:57 PM
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2. Things are looking up.
In another 160 years, they'll finally admit global warming from their undersea bubblespheres.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:58 PM
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3. We elected a new state school board
and they voted to change the science standards. Hopefully, this mess is history now.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:59 PM
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4. this is good, really
The Democrats made great strides in KS in the last election because people just got fed up with this nonsense.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:01 PM
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5. I had to look at a calendar to make sure it wasn't 1925
I wasn't sure, I could have fallen into a time warp because I'm fairly certain that this issue should have been settled decades ago. Fortunately we can now put it behind us
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:38 PM
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13. yeah, what century is this???
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:21 PM
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6. "New" definition of science?
From the AP story I read:

"Also approved was a new definition of science, specifically limiting it to the search for natural explanations of what is observed in the universe."

LOL Maybe that's new in Kansas, but science has ALWAYS been about finding natural explanations.:web:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:22 PM
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7. I feel sorry for the children of Kansas...
They might just use The Bible as the book for science classes, from 1st to 12th grade...
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:40 PM
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15. Tell, me, why did you overturn the fry vat?
God willed it.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:27 PM
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8. Well, this is good news.
I mean, at least things are moving in the right direction there.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:29 PM
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9. Good for Kansas. nt
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:16 PM
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10. any statement from Pat Robertson?
what horrors will befall the state of Kansas?
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:39 PM
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14. I think they're turning Japanese I think they're turning Japanese I really think so
duh nuh nuh nuh da duh duuh
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:34 PM
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11. Why are you physically sick? They've thrown out intelligent design.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:38 PM
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12. I'm sick because it took this long to get evolution in schools in the United States
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:41 PM
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16. I'm gonna celebrate! It's another defeat for the flat-earthers
Just remember that we've also had to butt heads with phrenologists, Thomsonians, fake psychics, and all sorts of snake oil salesmen in the past. Young-earth creationists and ID proponents are no different. Eventually, they will all fall like rotten apples.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:18 PM
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18. I'm celebrating, too, but it sickens me that it took this long for any state
in the US to accept Evolution. It makes me hurt a little inside.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:43 PM
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17. The small print bans algebra and electric razors.
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Barking Spider Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:19 AM
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20. Best news I've heard all day!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Big kudos goes out to the Kansas Citizens for Science (www.kcfs.org) who helped bring about this change in last year's school board election.

Hey Discovery Institute - Go Fuck Yourself!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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