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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:54 PM
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When talk show hosts are guests on another show - like Bill Maher
Yesterday when I watched Colbert on Larry King, he described his show at a mockery of the pundits who tend to raise their voices. The immediate image in my mind was Chris Matthews.

However, earlier on Bill Maher, he had two hosts: Tucker Carlson and Joy Behar (I think that this is her name) both have their own shows. They were constantly yelling, drowning each other and poor Paul Krugman who could not get a full sentence there. And I am sure he would have had a lot more interesting things to say.

Hey, Bill - how about limiting the hosts in your panel to only one?

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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:56 PM
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1. I felt the same way. I wanted to hear what Krugman had to say, and
he was totally drowned out by that idiot Carlson.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:58 PM
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2. Tucker was out of his mind....as usual
He is a stupid little fuck-face.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:58 PM
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3. Hey folks I thought the scroll say Matthews was going to be on next week
I told my son, oh boy, the other guests ought to stay home, they won't get a word in edgewise.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:36 AM
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8. Yep-Tweety is going to be a guest on the show next week.
Oh, joy! Oh, rapture! And I'm sure he'll declare over and over how he has always been against the Iraq war. :eyes:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:01 AM
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4. Maher himself seemed intimidated by carlson
Joy Behar was not bad. She got off a lot of zingers but she wasn't able to beat the crap out of *ucker with facts. Krugman could do it but carlson just shouted over him and Maher sat there like a wuss and let it go on.

It was one of the most disappointing maher shows I've ever seen. And it could have been one of the best.

Oh well at least we were able to hear directly from former Pres. Fox of Mexico how scared of horses the boy king is. He was pretty contemptuous of the chimp.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:02 AM
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5. Are there any quiet right-wing talk show hosts? nt
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:59 AM
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12. Wouldn't know, never watch any of them
and, I suppose, Carlson was supposed to have been the one "on the right." Maher does not have easy time finding them, not with his audience. But one should be enough.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:02 AM
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6. I sent an overtime question just for Tucker
But they didn't read it "Hey Tucker, do you think you will still have your job at MSNBC on Monday? Signed John Stewart"

Although in overtime Tucker got Krugman to swear,
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:33 AM
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7. He should NEVER have that loud mouth Carlson on again. Ruined the show.
What an ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:44 AM
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9. Squeeky Wheel Gets The Grease
It's the cardinal rule of talk TV...it's not what you have to say, it's how loud you say it. The voice either dominate or obliterates an oponnent...it's a weapon and attention getter. This game is taught by the Repugnican spinners who have prepped many of the bobble heads who show up on TV these days. And TV producers love it! It's "action", it's "compelling". Hell, if they didn't fight, it'd be like Public TV.

One doesn't get on TV without the ego and the tact of a soap dish. Careers are made on how well they can put down someone else or can outshout the other guy.

I was joking that Joy looked like she was having a day off...considering she's had to shout with the best of 'em.

If you really want to hear what Krugman has to say, wait until he's on Charlie Rose.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:57 AM
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11. was tucker his shrill & hysterical self? glad i missed the asshole. n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:41 AM
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14. Colbert pointed that out last night, too
Loud makes right on talk shows. I was glad he did that where many shitheads could get some small clue - on King's program.

Well said, KT!
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:50 AM
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10. HE NEEDS TO MODERATE!!!
If he insists on having loadmouthed blowhards like Carlson on his show, for fucks sake don't let him talk over your OTHER GUESTS.

I have NEVER seen him say "let him/her finish". Not once. He just lets whoever is the loudest and won't shut up take over his entire fucking show.

Bill, is this your show or not? Because anyone can sit there.

What a fucking waste of Krugman. Yet again, another quality guest silenced by some windbag asshole. Why bother.

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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:38 PM
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17. Agreed. I was INCENSED that Maher allowed that little shit to
ride roughshod over someone as important and prescient as Krugman. It was embarrassing, and on a liberal show, too! Maher should ENFORCE civility in EVERY show, or the loudmouths prevent intelligent discourse yet again. It's maddening.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:37 PM
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24. Totally agree!
It was painful to watch.

Tucker just blathered on -- talking over everyone who tried to say anything! Even Maher! He just would not shut up! OMG, and he made no sense! He's such an idiot.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:30 PM
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22. Maher really needs to bend backward to attract right wingers
since it is clear both he and his audience are liberals. Yes, on occasions he zings at the Democrats - like the Armenian Holocaust comment - but, hey there is so much more to criticize the Republicans. Thus, if he would appear to "take a side" with Krugman vs. Tucker...

I think that he actually is having hard time recruiting conservatives. Ann Coulter would gladly come, she did once, a few years ago, and even Maher realized that he really does not need that much of a loose cannon. Though she certainly brings awareness to shows that have her.

For example, if he'd had a quiet conservative, that guest would have hard time getting his/her comments against the super hyper Joy Behar. And if Maher would have tried to moderate her, he would be attacked as a misogynist (as happened before).

Bottom line, it takes a special set of skills to moderate a multi panel show. One way is Chris Matthews' just shouting down everyone.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:35 AM
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13. You think Behar even approached Carlson's microphone hogging?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:33 PM
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23. Give Carlosn the benefit of the doubt of being in the minority
as probably the only Conservative. Still, he needs to remember that his was not his show but, I suspect he came prepared to be in the minority and to make sure that his comments were heard.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:39 PM
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25. Benefit of the doubt?
He didn't let anyone finish one sentence. He squealed on and on...nonstop...louder than everyone else. YAWN.


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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:44 AM
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15. It could have been worse
Krugman could have been on with Mos Def & Cornell West! :D

Btw, that was my most favorite Maher show, ever. MD & CW literally stole the show that night. I'm going to record it when it's on aired again.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:52 PM
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18. That one's on youtube
You'd have to watch in pieces, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLi1uvqKXNs
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:06 AM
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16. Joy barely spoke a word
It was Krugman and Tucker who duked it out. I don't know what you were watching. Even Bill Maher said it was entertaining watching Krugman and Tucker go at it.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:41 PM
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27. Tucker was a high-pitched screamer, Krugman whispered.
And Joy could be heard laughing mostly during "New Rules." Otherwise, she was drowned out by the bow-tied squealer.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:56 PM
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19. I predicted fucker carlson would claim the show his own..and talk over
out scream all the other guests...I am sorry I was correct..:grr:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:57 PM
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20. Baher is a sexist slave of the GOP
Why any Dem / Progressive would watch him or appear on his show is beyond me. :puke:

Krugman is brilliant and should have known better than to lower his standards and appear on Maher's show.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:56 AM
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21. Tucker dominated Bill's show and I found myself
yelling at the screen for him to "shut the fuck up!" He was a pain in the ass. Worst show yet.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:40 PM
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26. Krugman did alright for himself. He did get the biggest applause of the night.
And he did say fuck in the overtime segment!!
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