Florida Dems angry with S.C. Democrat

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Dems on Dems primary battle

To Florida Democrats, Carol Fowler will go down in history as the Katherine Harris of the 2008 presidential primary.

Like the widely lampooned Republican elections chief during the contested 2000 election, Fowler is accused of usurping the rights of Democratic voters.

But Fowler is a Democrat who, as chairwoman of the party in South Carolina, came up with a dastardly plan to guarantee that Florida's Jan. 29 primary does not overshadow her state's vote on the same date.

That ''pledge'' by Democratic candidates to boycott Florida for encroaching on the early primary window reserved for four other states, including South Carolina?

Her idea.

Now, even candidates' spouses won't step foot in Florida -- except to pick up checks.

''I saw this incredible anger in 2000 that was directed at Republicans,'' said Steve Geller, the Democratic leader in the Florida Senate. ``This time I'm seeing the same anger, except it's directed at Democrats, the Democratic National Committee and people like Carol Fowler.''Read More ...

No body loves or understands Florida. :nopity:

[DrDan]

1. well . . . as a Florida resident, I am at a loss to understand why I would vote

for a candidate that has decided to boycott my state.

Why should I?????

[Toots]

3. Don't worry about it, your vote doesn't count there anyway

Florida is good at rigging the vote..Your chad was left hanging...

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5. Florida Voting Fiasco / Scam 2008 in the makings

Florida headaches
After the history-making presidential recount of 2000, Palm Beach County sold hundreds of its infamous Votomatic machines to memorabilia seekers, including a group of chiropractors in Arizona, the cable-news host Greta Van Susteren and the hotelier André Balazs. One machine ended up in the Smithsonian Institution. Dozens were transformed into pieces of contemporary art for an exhibition in New York.

But now that Florida is purging its precincts of 25,000 touch-screen voting machines — bought after the recount for up to $5,000 each, hailed as the way of the future but deemed failures after five or six years — no one is biting.

“I think we are going to have them on hand for a while,” said Arthur Anderson, the elections supervisor in Palm Beach County, which must jettison 4,900 touch-screen machines for which it paid $14.5 million in 2001 and still owes $4.8 million. “They are probably, for the most part, headed to the scrap pile.”

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Voter purge riles group

A cloud is gathering, again, over Florida's presidential race as voting rights groups challenge the state's election system.

The Department of State has 16 election-related lawsuits, pending or just completed, against it with the most recent filed in September.

Civil rights groups have begun to seek access to the state agency's inner workings, demanding records that show who is registered and who is turned away.

[DrDan]

7. well - you have a point there . . . .

[papau]

4. candidate that has decided to boycott my state?" hold a caucus in March and you'll get visits n/t

n/t

[DrDan]

6. what??????

you think I have control over this??????

So - the party is composed of idiots - we can agree with that. But - because of that, no candidate is coming to Florida? I thought they were suppose to represent us, not the party.

Sorry - no vote from me. Why would you put the blame on us voters. How stupid!

[papau]

11. Blame?- seems better to solve the problem by making the actual delegate selection after NH - members

of the Florida Dem party might consider pressing their leaders to do this.

I will shortly be joining the Dems in Florida (moving to Tampa partime but as a resident)- so I can appreciate how little one prtson can do - but that is the whole idea of joining with others - perhaps we will be able to change things in the future

[waiting for hope]

12. Here:

Read madfloridian's journal, starting with this one:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1564

There is a ton of history leading up to this -

[Not Me]

2. I got a call from the DLC looking for a contribution last night

Skipping the drama, I declined.

[DrDan]

8. as would I. And I will include all candidates that refuse to visit Florida as well.

If I am not worth a visit, they are not worth my vote.

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9. Do ya think the actions of FL Dems Leadership is any better?

Why are they, FL Dem Leadership, going around the country attacking and claiming that everybody is trying to harm Florida? Will it change anything?

[DrDan]

10. well - it is a Florida primary, I believe . . .

and who do these candidates support - the party or the voters . . .

they made their choice . . . and I shall make mine . . .

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13. Why did FL Dems want to move up their primary this year?

Why insist on it?

Hell, either rotate the order of the states' primaries, or hold them all on the same damn day.

But until the rules are officially changed, shouldn't everyone play by the rules?


Or maybe I'm missing something...