Joel Osteen on Larry King right now, why?

[AlCzervik]

why do all these television preachers keep getting additional air time?

[Catherine Vincent]

1. Their congregation demands it!

:)

[AlCzervik]

2. Did Larry King ever cover news, has it always been puff pieces?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

3. Equal time for all other religions, please.

For instance, have you ever heard a speaker on TV explain Zoroastrianism? It's the oldest religion still practiced today (10K years old) and was the state religion of Iran under the Shah.

Or what is a Bahai?

Or a Sikh?

Or a Unitarian?

[varun]

4. God, god, god...

thats all this preacher has to say...

God will take care of you when you are dying of hunger, when you are depressed, when you are miserable...

What a simplistic way to look at one's problems.

Why do people fall for this sh*t?

[TomInTib]

5. Is his wife on with him?

I was living in Houston when the Oasis of Love went big-time.

[AlCzervik]

6. i lived in Spring texas when he was still a mini mega church snake oil salesman, yes

his wife, the one that got drunk on a plane and acted up is on with him.

[TomInTib]

10. Whoa! I was living in Spring then, too.

Enchanted Oaks, by the blimp base.

[AlCzervik]

11. i lived off Champion forest Drive, my husband worked for Compaq on Louetta.

[melbel8301]

16. Wow, I live in Spring TX also

in the FM 1960/Aldine-Westfield area. I had no idea there were other Dems in Spring, TX.

[AlCzervik]

17. omg i used to and still do love Pappasitos, how i miss their food!

i moved out in 2000 after being there for a little less than 3 years.

[Catherine Vincent]

27. Howdy neighbor!

:hi:

[KatyMan]

41. Small world...

I grew up in Spring (Birham Wood), went to Spring High (even went to Spring High South, if you remember back that far :P ). Regarding Pappasitos below, the Los Cucos off of 249 in Tomball was the best!
The Gunny Shack isn't there anymore, is it?

[TomInTib]

18. And now we live what, an hour or so apart?

Aren't you in Sacramento or thereabouts?

Actually, I have no idea how long it takes to drive from Tiburon to Sacramento.

I have not been North past Santa Rosa.

[AlCzervik]

19. i can motor in to SF on a saturday in about an hour and 20 minutes.

i used to drive my husband to SFO about every 3 weeks so i swear my car could get there on auto pilot.

[TomInTib]

22. Y'all should come on down sometime.

I'll bet you would really like our Gallery.

Cool Pan-Asian furniture, art and accessories.

[AlCzervik]

23. Tib and Sausilto are 2 places i love, hopefully in 6 1/2 short years i'll be living

somewhere near there, i love Pacifica so thats where i'm hoping we end up for a few years.

[AspenRose]

14. I remember when the blimp was there

I was in The Woodlands then!

[TomInTib]

20. Small world, eh?

Where are you now?

chimpsrsmarter and I are in NorCal.

I was there on the ground when the blimp took off for the last time.

There wasn't a dry eye to be seen. We fely like that thing was a Family Member.

I was fortunate enough to go along for a few rides. Went to the Cotton Bowl and got drunk as a skunk (in the gondola).

[AlCzervik]

21. we almost bought in the woodlands, the commute was just a bit too far.

[bjorkfan]

7. He tries not to offend anybody....

which actually offends many theologically orthodox Christians. He is a prosperity gospel type, and believes Christians are entitled to be prosperous. There was an incident during Christmas 2005 when Osteen and his family went to Vail, CO (to minister to the poor and destitute there, no doubt) on a Continental flight. His wife Victoria had some sort of altercation with a flight attendant and the entire family got kicked off the plane. From the Houston Chronicle:

<< A dispute involving the wife of Lakewood Church pastor Joel Osteen delayed holiday travel plans for a planeload of passengers . . . At least some people aboard the Continental Airlines flight were less than pleased after waiting about two hours at Bush Intercontinental Airport while the Osteens left the plane and their luggage was removed, said a woman who witnessed the incident.
"She was just abusive," said Sheila Steele, who said she was sitting behind Victoria Osteen. "She was just like one of those divas."

FBI Special Agent Luz Garcia said the Osteens were asked to leave the jetliner after an "altercation." She said Victoria Osteen "failed to comply" with instructions from the flight attendant. She added that no one was detained. Lakewood Church spokesman Donald Iloff said Victoria Osteen contacted a flight attendant after noticing that a liquid had been spilled on her seat. The spill apparently was not cleaned up to her satisfaction, Iloff said. . .
Steele said Victoria Osteen was upset about liquid on her pull-down tray and asked a flight attendant to have it cleaned. When the attendant, who was carrying paperwork to the cockpit, told her she couldn't do it immediately, Osteen replied, "Fine, get me a stewardess who can," Steele said.

She said Victoria Osteen pushed a flight attendant and tried to get into the cockpit. . . Steele said she and other passengers were upset that they had to wait about two hours while the Osteens' baggage was removed from the plane.>>

[Manifestor_of_Light]

28. He is completely ignorant about the Bible.

And has no business representing himself as a Christian minister.

Joel Osteen went to Anal Roberts University and dropped out after one semester, I believe, from what I read about him.

He doesn't know .00000000001% of what the guy I took religion courses from in college did. The guy had a Doctorate of Divinity from Princeton (Presbyterian) and knew Spanish, English, Greek, Latin, Amharic, Aramaic, Hebrew, Linear B, Akkadian, and I don't know what other ancient languages. A linguistic genius. The courses were not easy.

That pimply faced dweeb couldn't pass one of this professor's freshman college courses.

[liberaldemocrat7]

38. Mrs. Osteen acts like a terra ist, going after the flight attendant.

His father used to preach on the air too and it looks like greasy Joel took over the family business.

There appears to me that a lot of these preachers have this pasted on smile and Joel does have a big pasted on smile when he talks to people.

Joel doesn't serve Jesus. He serves the REPUBLIKLAN party like most of these preachers.

These people appear nothing more than tools for the GOP getting people of small means to forget about their economic interests and vote for the party of trogolodytes.

[OHdem10]

8. When they are on their followers watch--Gives ratings numbers.

Also a way to illustrate all Evangelicals are not Fundamentalists.
without someone just saying it over and over.

[Lint Head]

9. All these television preachers keep getting additional air time

because we live in a fascist state that was set up by a cabal. A theocratic technocracy with fascist underpinnings

'Power of Nightmare' is must see viewing.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=881321004838285177&q=%27The+Power+of+Nightmares%27...&total=365&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
:dem:

[spanone]

12. i'd rather poke knitting needles in my eyes, but thanks anyway.

[dflprincess]

13. He just wrote a book and he's on King to sell it

It's what Jesus wants him to do.

[tammywammy]

15. He was on 60 Minutes Sunday too

Does he have a new book coming out?

[Tektonik]

25. It's already out

I couldn't help seeing his blinding smile two shelves above Colbert's book at Target :P

[AlCzervik]

24. his bil is the pastor that wouldn't allow a funeral service for that gay serviceman.

i did not know that. He's claiming his bil said no because the deceased family members wanted "To bring in outside people"

[JI7]

31. don't "outside people" usually come to things like funerals and weddings ?

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

32. I think he meant an outside Minister.

[AlCzervik]

26. And He encouraged the women in his flock to shop at Victoria's secret.

airline is suing the Mrs. Osteen over her drunk air rage incident.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

29. This is painful to watch.

Larry asking why no Crosses in your church?
You not a licensed Reverend.
Who is this Prophet Joel you talk about? Are you referring to yourself?
Joel responds with a none answer.

~Man, That Church is Hugh!

edit ~ AntiChrist?!
jk.

[Bake]

30. Go and sell all that you have, and give to the poor ...

Take up your cross and follow me.

I guess Joel didn't read that part.

Bake

[JI7]

33. keep looking at his face

something weird and creepy about him.

[liberalsoldier5]

34. I like Joel Osteen a lot.

And I know a lot of Democrats who do too. There is really nothing at all political about him or his sermons. He's very hopeful and positive, and less gloom and doom. I like that.

[KatyMan]

42. Agreed, to the point

where I don't know too much about him, but when we lived in Houston we saw his show on a lot when channel surfing, and it seemed more like positive thinking than out and out fundy stuff. Could be wrong, we never stayed on the channel long enough to find out for sure.

[otohara]

35. Rerun of His 60 Minutes Just Few Days Ago

ugh....

[Jade Fox]

36. He's much better than a lot of the TV preachers....

at least he seems to be.

I saw him on TV once and I was shocked to hear him say to his congregation that it is not the business of Christians to try and convert anyone, that it is their business to work at being good Christians. He went on to say that all of them should have a lot of different kinds of people in their lives, including members of all religions, etc. I think he even alluded to gay people by adding "people who live in domestic partnerships" to his list. I remember thinking, "I'm glad it's you and not some Jerry Falwell type preaching to all these people."

[LibDemAlways]

37. From what I can see he's in the mode of

Robert Schuller of Crystal Cathedral fame. These guys are less about religion than self-improvement, sort of "God loves you and you should love yourself, too." No dogma, no ritual. Church-lite. It builds up the ego of the churchgoer without requiring that he do anything more than contribute to Osteen. A sweet deal all around.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

39. His church is our former basketball arena, The Summit!!!

They rented it under a sweetheart deal from the City with a 30 year lease.

BLECH!!!

I'm no sports fan, but I have fond memories of a lot of great rock concerts there.

[Skittles]

40. that is one creepy-looking guy

I mean, really