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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:26 AM
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Kucinich: "If Congress does not impeach President Bush...the next president should...
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Kucinich: "If Congress does not impeach President Bush for intentionally misleading the public, the next president should...
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2007-10-17 13:13. Criminal Prosecution | Elections | Impeachment

Kucinich: "If Congress does not impeach President Bush for intentionally misleading the public, the next president should hand over Bush and his administration to law enforcement officials"
By Associated Press

Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich has urged Congress to put an end to the war he says is a "gross immorality."

"The way to end the war is this: The leaders of Congress must go to the president and say, 'Mr. President, we are not going to give you another dime. Use the money you have to bring the troops home,"' the Ohio congressman said.

Kucinich told the crowd of more than 500 people that if Congress does not impeach President Bush for intentionally misleading the public, the next president should hand over Bush and his administration to law enforcement officials - a suggestion that was answered with cheers and a standing ovation from the audience.

Kucinich said he would create a policy of "strength through peace," which would focus on diplomacy, open dialogue and "at its core, would reject war as an instrument of policy."

"Somehow war and strength became equated, but now war and stupidity are being equated," he said. "We cannot buy into this mentality that the war is going to be with us for a long time."

He emphasized that he voted against the war because "there was no proof" that Iraq was linked to the Sept. 11 attacks or that Iraqis held weapons of mass destruction.

The occupation of Iraq is based on lies and oil, and Kucinich said the U.S. presence is only making things worse.

"Iraq cannot be stabilized through continued U.S. presence," he said. "The occupation is fueling the insurgency."

Kucinich walked through the aisles at Central New Mexico Community College's Smith-Brasher Hall, taking questions from the audience on issues such as immigration, education, social security and taxes.

Kucinich is among the first of the presidential candidates to campaign in New Mexico, which is home to Gov. Bill Richardson, who also is in the race.

New Mexico could prove to be a battleground state in next year's presidential election . The 2004 presidential race in New Mexico was among the closest in the country. Republican President George Bush won with 49.8 percent of the vote and a 5,988-vote margin over Democrat Sen. John Kerry .

In the end, the state's five electoral votes weren't crucial, as Bush finished with 286 electoral votes, 16 more than he needed, and Kerry 252.

Kucinich had made stops in Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Las Cruces and Farmington during his campaign for the 2004 Democratic presidential nomination.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:30 AM
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1. You gotta give Kucinich credit; he knows who his constituency is.
That said, I doubt any of the front runners will do it and even if he were elected he'd have to think twice about it.

Bryant
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:37 AM
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2. A meaningless statement:
Kucinich: "If Congress does not impeach President Bush for intentionally misleading the public, the next president should hand over Bush and his administration to law enforcement officials"

Silly, even. What does he mean? How could this be done? Who does he count as part of the administration?

He's simply preaching to the choir.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:40 AM
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3. You don't know that. What if he got elected? He'd be in a position
to do a lot more than he is now. And yes, I know that probably won't happen, but it's nice to see someone addressing many people's concerns without having someone put a damper on it.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:46 AM
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5. You're correct. The executive branch is supposed to be
the law enforcement branch. The president could certainly have the DOJ and FBI investigating Bush and his cronies. Kucinich is right, again. If they don't impeach Bush and Cheney, the next president, if they are going to protect and defend the Constitution has the obligation to enforce the law against all lawbreakers.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:48 AM
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6. I'm sorry but I do know that with reasonable certainty
and yes, if he got elected he'd be in a position to do more. But that's not one of the things that he could do, even if he were elected.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:43 AM
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4. The others should have 1/2 the guts of Dennis
Then maybe this country would be getting back to what it was intended to be as a democracy!
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:50 AM
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7. I believe impeachmet is ONLY for sitting officials! Indict Bush in 09'
surely Kucunich knows the difference between impeach and indict! If not then it goes a long way towards explaing this Congress!

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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:00 AM
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8. Who would go after Bush? They voted yes to the war even though...
there was no evidence, they are just as guilty. Kucinich and Obama would be about the only ones that could do it. Why is it that everyone continues to give a free pass to the ones that enabled Bush to do this? There was no evidence, they voted yes and continued to vote for the funding all these years, they took up the verbal fight when Americans finally had enough. Think about what they were saying in their speech's pushing the war with no evidence, they were sounding just like Bush and spreading the propaganda about Saddam, Iraq and Al Queda, when everyone knows that Iraq and Saddam didn't attack us or have anything to do with 9/11. This free pass shit is dangerous, are we going to elect someone that was either too stupid and couldn't see there was no evidence or voted for it because they had another agenda? Even the "unelectable" Dennis Kucinich could see that there was no evidence and that it was about oil, how electable can the others be if they weren't smarter than or more honorable than the "unelectable" Kucinich?

The facts are there, what else do we need?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:03 AM
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9. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what we think.
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