Bush jokes about staying past 1/20/09

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Question starting at 30:51

Peter: Following up on a question about Vladimir Putin for a moment. He has said recently that next year when he has to step down according to the constitution as President, he may become Prime Minister, in effect keeping power and dashing any hope for a genuine democratic transition there.

Bush: I’ve been planning that myself. (barely audible chuckle in the room)

Peter: Sen. McCain said yesterday sir that when he looks into Putin’s eyes he sees a “K” a “G” and a “B.” He never would invite..

Bush: Pretty good line.

Peter: He would never invite him to Kennebunkport and he says it’s time we got a little tough with Vladimir Putin. I wonder if you think McCain was right and what would it mean for Russian democracy if, when you leave power, assuming you do, in January 2009, if Vladimir Putin is still in power.

Bush rambels about relationships, when dictatorships are fine, then put the alarm in the room to rest.


Bush: He (Putin) was wily. He wouldn’t tip his hand.

Bush: I’ll tip mine. I’ll sprint to the finish line, and then you’ll find me in Crawford.

http://www.cspan.org/

I'll sleep better tonight.

[Lars39]

1. Can't get much clearer than that.

:(

[Kagemusha]

3. No, you can't. "And then you'll find me in Crawford" seems pretty clear.

He just has a very bad sense of humor.

[eyeontheprize]

5. He spends most of his time

in Crawford now, so it's not all that reassuring. What is telling is that he refused to condemn Putin for assuming unconstitutional powers when Putin's term expires.

[Kagemusha]

13. Excuse me? Unconstitutional powers? Where did that come from?

My impression was that what was getting people's goat is that what Putin plans to do is perfectly legal, and he'd have the powers of prime minister, not president.

[eyeontheprize]

22. Putin plans to retain

his power but as Prime Minister. In Russia the Prime Minister is not the chief executive, so the plan is unconstitutional.

If Putin manipulates the constitution in this way, it will render it meaningless. It's not even ironic that Bush has no objection to this kind of extra constitutional maneuver. It is that same sort of corruption of the US constitution which allowed Bush to assume power. Birds of a feather.

[Kagemusha]

35. You're talking complete nonsense.

I'm not even sure exactly what you're saying, but ruling through a cooperative ally is legal, lest the twin brothers ruling Poland would have been banned from office. (Nepotism laws don't trump elected office if voters happen to vote for brothers for President and Prime Minister.)

...The more I read how you wrote that, the less I understand.

[eyeontheprize]

48. I will keep it very, very simple for you

I will try not to use many big words without defining them. Maybe that will help, but I don't think so.

Putin's plan is illegal. Illegal means it is not legal as the current Russian constitution is structured.

You are wrong. That means you are not right.

You do not understand what Putin plans if you think it is legal in Russia. Either that, or you do not understand the Russian constitution, if you think it is legal, or both.

Bush also assumed the Presidency illegally. He did that through a political intrusion of the US Supreme Court into the American constitutional form of government.

Reply if you would like, but I am not able to make this any more simple for you. I am able to explain it to you, but I am not able to understand it for you. I will not respond to your next attempt to insult. This conversation is closed from my end.

[Kagemusha]

53. You've chosen not to even try to explain what you think Putin plans.

As I said, I don't even really know what it is you are suggesting. This is what you seem to be suggesting.

Putin is going to have the post of Prime Minister while exercising, directly, personally, the powers of the President.

...

That is not what Bush was asked about, so even if that's Putin's real plan, and not what he actually said he's going to do, it's a stretch of human language to say that Bush was sympathizing with an unconstitutional usurpation of power in Russia.

Putin merely serving as Prime Minister, in and of itself, does not appear to be illegal.

...

As for Bush assuming the Presidency illegally, the Supreme Court is part of the constitutional form of government and is the final arbiter of what is legal or not, as much as I find the decision baffling on a pure legal level.

[eyeontheprize]

55. I know I said I wasn’t going to reply

but you are absolutely clueless.

Even the Supreme Court knew their decision was illegal, they said as much in the opinion. It’s clear you haven’t any idea about that decision, Putin’s plans, or very much of anything, so this time I’ll really give you the last word.

[Kagemusha]

57. Self-deleted

I'll leave.

[pampango]

58. Is it unconstitutional in Russia for an ex-president to run for parliament?

If so then I understand you point that what Putin is proposing is unconstitutional.

If their constitution allows him to run for a parliamentary seat, and he does so and wins, then he could be chosen as prime minister, but he would only have the powers of a prime minister who is not the chief executive. Unless he did so behind the scenes (which I suppose he could do from his retirement dacha as well), he would not be retaining the executive power that he has now.

As I said, if their constitution prohibits him from doing this, then I understand your point.

[eyeontheprize]

61. It is unconstitutional

for the Prime Minister to serve as President. The PM does not have presidential powers currently in Russia. When Putin becomes PM and assumes the role of President, the constitution will be violated.

[pampango]

67. That what I thought you meant earlier. He can become the prime minister

and not violate the constitution, but he will be in violation if he assumes that role AND assumes the duties of president at the same time.

Thanks for the explanation.

[groovedaddy]

2. I'd like to believe that bush will be lucky to make it through this term

without being impeached, but I know I'm reaching here. We can dream, can't we?

[AndyA]

4. That's not a joke.

That's a NIGHTMARE! :scared:

[Renew Deal]

6. Find me in Crawford doesn't mean he'll leave power.

:tinfoilhat:

[Timefortruth]

8. Bingo. nt

[daninthemoon]

7. He's a funny guy. Just f***n hilarious. Go to hell. Just go.

:mad: :mad: :banghead: :grr:

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. RUH ROH! He backtracked on that trying to cover-up his slip of the lip....

That's EXACTLY what their plan is. I knew it. :scared: A lot of truth is said in jest! Remember: "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.

That means a terrorist attack or a war in Iran. Then they will declare Martial Law because of safety issues and no change of power because "we are at war.":tinfoilhat:

[Vilis Veritas]

12. A comic is never so funny as when he speaks the truth...nt

But this is not FUNNY.

[Lisa]

63. "like a bad comic working the room"

That was Martin Sheen's assessment of Bush, way back. And every time Bush tries to make a joke (which usually reveals what he finds amusing .... generally something that horrifies or disgusts most other people), I remember that.

[daninthemoon]

65. Bullseye. Except, I wonder how much of a base he still has that

actually may still find his little jokes about WWIII and maintaining dictatorial power and stuff cute and funny.

[Lisa]

68. probably down to the same folks who laughed out loud at his 9/11 quips

What person thinks "there's one terrible pilot!" when he sees a passenger jet crashing into a skyscraper full of people? Not only that, but thinks that he will get a laugh by repeating that comment! And yet a couple of listeners guffawed.

[daninthemoon]

69. "Let's see..nope, no WMD over here. Nope, not under there..."

disgusting. He and his sycophants. Johnson used to weap over the Vietnam carnage. bushler laughs at what he has wrought.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

15. he described being a dictater easier, and he went and did it.

Some may laugh off this statement. I would not, not so easily.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. It shouldn't be laughed offed. If the thought hadn't entered his pea brain before,

it surely wouldn't have been present in it today...he's an empty shell. That is what makes this so scary. It's in the works.

[KoKo]

60. Good Point you make there....we've learned his seeming flub ups and

mispeaks reveal more about what is being plotted and planned...and he can't help but blurt them out.

This PC today seems to be filled with what might be "curious" statements...but we should be alerted to hints of what is coming.

[bdamomma]

32. this man is out of control, totally out of control

and yes, I remember when he said "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.


he joked about that too, and it seems to be coming true, he is a very sick man, unfit for the position he is in, he is our national security threat. Geez, too bad Keith couldn't have a psychologist on to discuss the mental state of this sick sick man.

[Zhade]

72. Yet the Dems are too cowardly to fulfill their oath to impeach.

He's committed so many crimes, and so many here go along with the cowardice.

I blame them as much as I do the rightwingers for helping destroy this country.

[Blaze Diem]

10. The fact that he mentions '09' and beyond, tells me its already in the plan.

No way Bush's bunch is giving up the power and position. Why. Because the COnstitution says so?? Bush or another clone of his dogma will remain.

[bdamomma]

33. or is he setting someone else for it, Jeb perhaps?

[Virginia Dare]

38. Bush himself won't be able to get out of their fast enough..

he doesn't want it, I don't think he really wanted it again in 2004, but he of course was being "pushed". I don't think it's entirely out of the realm of possibilities that Jeb will be on a repub ticket, if not in 2008, then in 2012.

Also, in terms of "setting someone else up", isn't Cheney's daughter working for one of the campaigns?

[Pacifist Patriot]

11. Over my fucking dead body

and I am not speaking metaphorically

[backscatter712]

23. I'm with you there.

Technically, we're not supposed to use the I-word on DU.

But if our government is overthrown from within, maybe we could talk about taking up arms to restore our Constitutional government...

That's not against DU rules, is it?

[kestrel91316]

14. If Bush fails to leave the White House on schedule, I for one

will consider him FAIR GAME. Illegal dictators don't have legal protection, IMHO.

[Blaze Diem]

21. That's where Blackwater enters the picture for the public to view.

Bush will use his schock and awe techniqes on protesting citizens.
I wish you well and send my blessings and prayers for a successful battle.

Maybe I will be joining you, maybe me and thousands more.
Love for our America runs deep.

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. Bingo.

I wonder how the U.S. Military comes into play here? Will it be so weakened by then that even Blackwater could neutralize them? Is that what they're doing to the military? Weakening it so badly they can't fight back and having as many military OUT OF THE COUNTRY as they can by 2008-2009?? All the while, Blackwater is buying up all the military equipment they need? The Psycho's personal Military.......http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20070827.aspx

[Blaze Diem]

30. Blackwater is the Bush gestapo. With their shoot first mentality,

and Bush laws to detain with no representation, it does all fit into palce, and the large and looming fear that this is more than theory hits hard in the realization that this was all in the plan since the neo-cons went after Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton simply interrupted the plan that GHWBush would serve his 8 years (or more) and his sons would follow in line. Like the royalty they believe they are.

But that's when we still had a voting system that worked.
Took care of that problem didn't they.
As they moved their New World Order into play, the SCourt was in GWBush's favor and Rove was working overtime to help stop the power of the US democracy and transform it slowly over time, piece by piece.
What we have now is exactly in the plan all along.
The democracy is weakened, the military is weakened, (you are correct on this point) and the US Treasury has been doled out to Bush's base.

What is to be done, at this point, to stop the demise of our democracy? I can thnk of nothing, honestly.
We looked to the usual protections, our Congress, but they are not there for the people either.
Bush thumbs his nose at the rule of law, the Constitution, because he knows it no longer exists.

I don't know what it would take to save this democracy, if it can still be done..I just believe that there must be something.
Yes Blackwater will be the new gestapo. I have no doubt.

[daninthemoon]

36. Let me further that tin foil thought. If we continue to piss off Turkey,

and they deny us access, it will leave only Kuwait as an exit point for everything and everybody. How bout this: The Iraq "government" actually does kick out all those tens of thousands of blackwater brownshirts. They're ALL here, our real troops are ALL there...

[Blaze Diem]

45. Sickening feeling. Better get my papers in order..

may need to carry them with me at all times..in the Blackwater future.

What truely becomes of this country?
Our children & grandchildren?
I want an answer to this question from one of the Congress people or one of the Pres candidates.
I want a real, look em in the eye, honest fuckin answer.

[daninthemoon]

54. Only one consistently talkin straight about Iraq and all. It aint Hilary.

It aint Obama. It aint Edwards. It aint even Biden or Dodd. It's Dennis Kucinich. Oh yeah, and Mike Gravel.;)

[bdamomma]

37. people will not stand for this "unprecedented" move,

but again, we are talking about someone who has trashed the Constitution.

[Zhade]

73. They won't? Look how many allegedly informed DUers are willing to let these criminals walk...

...because they're afraid of impeachment going badly, poll-wise.

[Virginia Dare]

39. I for one say bring it on..

if this is indeed the grand plan, if the NWO does indeed exist and this is what this bunch is aiming for, let's have a "High Noon" "Gunfight At OK Corral" moment and get it over with once and for all.

If we ultimately lose our Democracy, then we never deserved to have it in the first place, and I for one will quietly slink off to some remote cabin in the wilderness and commune with what little is left of nature.

[TechBear_Seattle]

16. Funny as a 9.0 earthquake in Manhattan n/t

[Deja Q]

17. Wasn't everything going to collapse in 04? And again in 06?

I'll stay on the :tinfoilhat: theory side.

Or maybe the tin is true; Bush and Putin and Hu and the rest of the gang are all working together. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: (um, if that's true I'd love to see a lot of proof...)

[flordehinojos]

19. now, when we have a crisis in these united states that prompts the bush nazi crime family to

suspend our constitutional guarantees, our electoral process, and whatever else the hell they want to suspend to declare themselves the rightful owners/dictators of us all, whe can always quote bush:

"Peter: Following up on a question about Vladimir Putin for a moment. He has said recently that next year when he has to step down according to the constitution as President, he may become Prime Minister, in effect keeping power and dashing any hope for a genuine democratic transition there.

Bush: I’ve been planning that myself."

and we can honestly say, they were planning it all along!

[Hydra]

20. We don't need another 9/11

I'm convinced the new plan is the new cold war. I think that was what was discussed when Putin was his guest.

Putin: "I'm not happy with you playing around in my neighborhood"

Bush: "I can understand that. How about I throw you a bone?"

Putin: "I prefer 'You scratch my back, I scratch yours.'"

Bush: "Fair enough. How about you stay in power, and so do I?"

Putin: "You'd ignore my power grab if I ignore yours?"

Bush: "Exactly! You and I make noises at each other, we declare a new iron curtain, and you can do anything you want on your side, and I can do anything I want on mine."

Putin muses. "I would need room to expand...some new territory to offset your gains in the Mideast..."

Bush: "Of course- why not all of the previous borders of the USSR minus Poland and some of the other European nations?"

Putin: "Add a few other colonies and a good portion of the Arctic, and you can have that whole mideast area you've been drooling over."

Bush: "Done."

[daninthemoon]

66. You made me laugh. It's funny because it could be true.

:spray: :scared:

[Hydra]

76. I know

it's so easy for me to get in character for dipshit and his "peers." I just throw out my conscience and let pure selfishness rule me.

Honestly, I freaked out when Putin went to Kennebunkport furious about the missile defense shield, and left offering Bush that radar station for the project. I wondered what kind of bone Bush had thrown him...then I heard about this "Putin as Prime Minister so he can change the Russian Constitution" thing, and I felt sick.

Now we have Bush doing the same thing...:scared:

[zbdent]

24. All it takes is one little guy with a suitcase (doesn't even need to be a dirty bomb

or even remotely a WM of minimal D), and all of a sudden, boom ... we can't change horses in midstream, as was the great battle cry in 2004 ...

[Virginia Dare]

40. The FUCK we can't..

they pulled soldiers of the battlefield in the middle of a fucking civil war for a Presidential election. There is no precedent in this country for suspending elections.

[Done]

25. Bush jokes about destroying our republic.

Or I should say driving the final nail in the coffin, since this is something he's been working on for a while.

I've often wondered if he is truly evil, or if he is just an idiot manipulated by others who are evil. He says something stupid, and I tend to believe he is just an idiot. Then he says something like this and I tend to believe he is truly evil.

[SammyWinstonJack]

28. He's evil and manipulated by others who are evil. Nice combo, doncha think?

[bdamomma]

41. and he hides behind the cross, or doing something else to the cross.

he is no "christian" man, he is truly deranged and dangerous, ignorant and arrogant and doesn't give a shit about Americans or anyone.

[Hydra]

31. I hate to tell you

But he isn't stupid. He's a lazy putz, which is why he lets Dick and Karl do the work, but you can bet he enjoys these little "rubbing it in" moments.

Bush thought bubble: "These people are such idiots- I tell them what I'm going to do, and they think I'm joking! These people deserve all we do to them."

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. I don't think he is "joking". I didn't think he was "joking" when he made that

statement about how being a dictator would be easier, either.

[bdamomma]

42. when have any of us heard a President express himself as this

jerk does, we all know something is totally wrong with him, he gets help from other people to control the agenda, Cheney is all for his oil business and they let Jr. sway the base for them to think he is a "godly" man, excuse me while I do this :puke:

[daninthemoon]

70. I hate to tell you, that sounds about right. I think it might really

amuse him to have his little jokes on us. Little boots.

[Warpy]

27. He also "joked" about being a dictator.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Pelosi is a fool.

[blues90]

56. Bush , well .

His comments about being a dictator or rather jokes are not funn y to me either . That giggle and grin make me feel very unconfortable , he means it .

[hisownpetard]

29. If he had any brain cells at all, when told that McCain said he'd never invite Putin

to Kennebunkport, Bush should have said, "Of course not. He doesn't live there!"

[Ms. Clio]

43. What a lying dick he is

he and Laura will be living in Highland Park, not Crawford. Count on it.

[smoogatz]

44. I honestly don't think the military would be on board

if Bush/Cheney tried to stay in office past January '09. The only way they could do it is with the full support of the army, in particular. Blackwater sounds big and bad, but they'd last about ten minutes in any open confrontation with the U.S. military. Of course, the last thing in the world anyone wants (except maybe Cheney) is for open warfare in Washington, DC. But I'm pretty sure that's what would happen if Cheney tried to hold onto power in '09.

[Ganja Ninja]

46. We have never had anyone more unfit for office than this man.

It boggles the mind that he is still around.

[Duer 157099]

47. Jeez, it's the use of the word "sprint" that has me alarmed

A sprint, a full-on press to accomplish a goal (think: Iran)

::shudder::

[bdamomma]

49. and what else did he say, he wants to get the "job" done.

what a sick fuck, wouldn't you love if someone said this to him? just like getting the "mission" done he always talks or tries to talk in code.

[Cyrano]

50. "Bush jokes about..." We are not amused. n/t

[Mad_Dem_X]

51. Ready or not, George...

we're kicking your ass out on 1/20/09. Believe it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. Yet we have folks denying the final intent

even now... wanna bet?

[Ishoutandscream2]

59. I'm sorry, but I think the man will be more than ready to leave 1/20/09

He has pretty much accomplished what he intended. He's raided the treasury, awarded his fat cat buddies with no bid deals, the oil companies are raking in billions, and he finally got ol Saddam. I think George knows that even a dictatorship would take some work, and I don't believe he wants to work any more than he has to. Like someone said above, he won't be in Crawford but in Highland Park on 1/21/09. Count on it - his goals were a "mission accomplished."

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. The pretension and the mask felll off today

but watch as this does not make the news

[BornagainDUer]

64. He joked around about it before he became dictator of this country.

I believe we are now in a fascist dictatorship.


"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
--President-Elect George W. Bush, CNN News, Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

Then I read about the last Roman Army going into battle with "Republic of Rome" on the flag.
This was over 400 years after the end of the Republic.

Such is the power of myth.

[Javaman]

71. sort of like is dictator comment, huh?

:scared:

[dave123williams]

74. You'll sleep better tonight, unless of course, he's lying.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

75. The only thing he never tips is the Waitstaff

Hands, bottles, the scales of justice, the light fantastic, sure!

But the Help? Beaully you Geste!