TDS tonight: TONIGHT: Jake Gyllenhaal, actor promoting movie "Rendition

[babylonsister]

And then there's Jon!

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Is It About Extraordinary Rendition?

The practice of outsourcing torture - pioneered by William Jefferson Clinton?

[rusty quoin]

2. Are you serious. What did I miss?

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Be More Specific Please nt

[rusty quoin]

7. The practice of outsourcing torture - pioneered by William Jefferson Clinton?

That. Where does that come from?

[MannyGoldstein]

9. It's Well Documented

e.g.,

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/02/14/050214fa_fact6?currentPage=2
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/10/30/061030ta_talk_mayer

[rusty quoin]

11. So you mean this:

Not long ago, Scheuer, who lives in northern Virginia, spoke openly for the first time about how he and several other top C.I.A. officials set up the program, in the mid-nineties. “It was begun in desperation, ” he told me. At the time, he was the head of the C.I.A.’s Islamic-militant unit, whose job was to “detect, disrupt, and dismantle” terrorist operations. His unit spent much of 1996 studying how Al Qaeda operated; by the next year, Scheuer said, its mission was to try to capture bin Laden and his associates. He recalled, “We went to the White House”—which was then occupied by the Clinton Administration—“and they said, ‘Do it.’ ” He added that Richard Clarke, who was in charge of counter-terrorism for the National Security Council, offered no advice. “He told me, ‘Figure it out by yourselves,’ ” Scheuer said. (Clarke did not respond to a request for comment.)

Wow! if true.

[MannyGoldstein]

12. Good Summary

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition#Usage_by_the_Clinton_Administration

Very distrurbing.

[rusty quoin]

13. Thanks for teaching me something.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

8. It's true.

The practice of outsourcing torture was first used during the Clinton years.

[Lorien]

3. Yes. There's trailers up on moviefone. n/t

[babylonsister]

4. Rendition movie is not fiction

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/10497

Rendition movie is not fiction
by Mary Shaw | Oct 17 2007 -

On Friday, October 19, the movie Rendition will be released in the US, Canada, and the UK. In the movie, Reese Witherspoon plays an American woman whose Egyptian-born husband is kidnapped by the CIA and rendered to a secret prison somewhere in the world. Jake Gyllenhaal portrays a CIA analyst who apparently faces a moral dilemma over the agency's interrogation techniques.

The following is a statement by Amnesty International UK about the ugly truths that the movie depicts. Be sure to check out the links.

'See the film, then take action' call

Ahead of the UK release of the new Hollywood film 'Rendition', Amnesty International has said that prisoners in the 'war on terror' are still missing and still being held in secret.

Meanwhile, far from ending the practice of 'rendition', the US government -- which has authorised abduction and secret prisoner movement in hundreds of cases in the last six years -- continues to defend the policy, even though it breaches human rights.

Amnesty International UK Director Kate Allen said:

'Jake Gyllenhaal and Reese Witherspoon's film is extremely timely as prisoners are still missing after being subject to 'rendition' -- basically another word for kidnapping and secret detention.

'Anyone who goes to see this powerful film and comes out of a cinema believing that kidnap and secret detention are wrong can do something about it -- they can support our new 'Unsubscribe' campaign to stop human rights abuses in the 'war on terror'.'

Last week (9 October) Amnesty International launched the 'Unsubscribe' campaign, a new initiative to unite people in opposition to terrorism and opposition to human rights abuses committed in the 'war on terror'.

The Amnesty campaign is encouraging people to defend human rights, and within days of its launch more than 16,000 people had visited www.unsubscribe-me.org and 'unsubscribed'.

Further information: www.renditionmovie.com and www.unsubscribe-me.org

[midnight]

6. I will never be able to see this movie, and I already won't

support rendition. I will look at Amnesty because I'm a supporter of their work.

[babylonsister]

10. Support rendition? This movie is exposing it. nt