I'm watching a recap of Larry Craig's interview on Keith and all I can say is

[mrreowwr_kittty]

ADMIT IT. YOU'RE GAY!!!

That is all.

[daninthemoon]

1. He's full on Liberace gay.

[Gregorian]

2. He'd be so much happier.

As for his wife? No idea.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

7. I know I'd be happier if all these GOP closet queens would just come on out.

Why do they have to drag everyone down with them in their toxic shame?

[CoffeeCat]

9. This particular brand of closeted person...

...is dangerous because they go out of their way to make laws and
affect policies in this nation--while they are in a state of self hatred.

They are gay and they hate themselves. That's lethal enough, but
then they have to extend their destruction and create legislation
that punishes gay people and is unfair to gay people. It's as if
they're sabotaging and punishing the part of themselves that they
do not want to face.

In effect, all gay people must suffer because these closeted politicians are
psychologically locked down and full of irrational self loathing.

What these people need is therapy. They need to love and accept themselves
as they were created.

They do not need to be making laws and sitting on the Senate Judiciary
Committee, for Pete's sake!

[EST]

13. Y'know, this whole thing has bothered me no end.

Not just with Craig, but with the whole self denial thing.
I don't know how accurate it is, but watching this scenario repeat itself again and again, throughout society and history, I think it boils down to two ideas.

First is the persecution of gays. This seems to apply in other areas, as well.
The rule making that Craig and other closet queens do seems directed at preventing themselves from engaging in whatever activity they are railing and legislating against. It also seems directed by them not just at future behavior, but present and past, as well.

It's like: if they make it illegal, then people who engage or have engaged in whatever it is must be bad people. They know they, themselves, are not bad people so they must not have done it, were forced into it, or someway they carve out exceptions for themselves.

It also, in the minds of the uninitiated guilty, occurs to a lot of people that, if they are totally, unabashedly against something, nobody will even suspect they are involved in it.
Come to think of it, that's almost always the case--thieves surround themselves with honest people, both as cover and as victims. Protective coloration, I suppose.

Ministers and lawmakers seem to be the most delusional about themselves. They bury themselves in a culture that says to them, "I could not be guilty--look how against such things I am." Both aspire to positions of massive influence, perhaps to provide weaker victims and coloration.

And, maybe, I'm just tired and full of sh*t.

I don't mean to equate homosexuality with pedophilia, but the self-loathing gay or the pedophilic pastor wind up both abusing people who are weaker or poorer than they.

[zalinda]

18. My two cents on the subject

I think these guys make the laws against homosexuality because they think if there is a law, they won't do it. I think it's more about denying themselves than denying other people. If you take a look at repubs in general, they are quite selfish, and only think about me, me, me. You see, if you make it against the law, it will be more difficult for them to do. They have their image, and homosexuality doesn't fit into that image.

It's the same with just about anything they have to do with. They try to put themselves in roles that they think will stop them from doing what doesn't jive with their image. So therefore, you have pedophiles in the church, because God will stop them from doing the act. You have them against abortion and prostitution, because that will stop sexuality. You have them going to war because that will stop love, which will also stop the things mentioned above.

And God is their sword and shield, which protects them from doing anything bad. They beat their chests declaring their Christianity, all the while screwing everyone, metaphorically and physically.

zalinda

[Gregorian]

12. I think guilt fullfills a multitude of purposes.

They need to maintain an image for their base. And that's a bunch of big white straight people.
And I think real happiness is like letting go too much for them. They need restraint in order to feel in control.
Yeah, it's a drag. No pun intended.

Now back to listening to Iggy's new album. It rocks.

[Sukie1941]

3. On the shoe, behind the shoe

Craig said tonight that the tissue was on his heel. His original statement was that the paper was behind him.

[CoffeeCat]

4. I really feel sorry for his wife...

She's up to her neck in the same ocean of denial in which
her husband is swimming.

I don't get that.

[daninthemoon]

8. I don't even think she's covering up. She believes. It is sad.

I actually also feel sorry for them both. Kind of a slow motion train wreck kind of thing.

[rusty quoin]

5. I watched Matthews earlier re-playing the interview and he asked,

"why are these people smiling?" He meant Craig and his wife.

[lpbk2713]

6. The fact that he's a lying rethuglican overrides everything else.

He couldn't be truthful if his life depended on it. He's a gopper. It's in his blood to be evasive and deceitful. His police interview sounded like an old SNL skit with Martin Short as Nathan Thurm.

[liberalmuse]

10. I don't think he's gay.

Just a perv. Then again, I was shocked to learn that Liberace was gay a few years after his death, so I guess gaydar wasn't available as a built-in option the year I was born.

[Whisp]

14. erm, why would you be 'shocked' that someone is gay??

and please don't use that dumb gaydar word.

thanks.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. I loved the I don't use a computer

only a blackberry

You dolt, what do you think the blackberry uses? Messenger pigeons?

(and that is not counting his web post et al)

[Indi Guy]

15. Most likely, the guy dreams about Eric McCormack

but, there's something smelly about the sting. Cops have allot of latitude & can manipulate facts to fit their allegations.

Craig is probably a hypocritical sleaze, but I can't just take the cops on face value either.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

16. I don't agree with the restroom stings either. I'm just saying he should admit he's gay. n/t

[Indi Guy]

17. If he is gay, he'll never admit it

He would be too ensconced in his lie to come out.

He most likely is a self hating gay; but I want to highlight a larger issue. What's worse, a single gay anti-gay senator or a police mentality that lacks accountability. For all we know Craig was targeted, and any gesture on his part was exaggerated in the police report.

Gay or not, Craig might be innocent of wrongdoing in this particular situation. Do we want a country where police are immune from the same rule of law we all must abide by?