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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:05 AM
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On the draft... and an idea I heard over the Malloy Show
what one things about while doing exercise

And this is brilliant

No, not the usual you are thinking

In the ancient world one nation, whenever they went to war, or were in a crisis, the elites had to offer a kid for sacrifice to the gods

No, not something that cruel

Here is the modificiation....by the caller

We are going to war... well every member of the house, the senate, and the executive branch, two levels down in the cabinet, has to offer a close relative, spouse, oldest kid, to the military


No, not as an officer either... but a raw recruit

Choice of MOS... line infantry, cavalry scout... perhaps medic

If they got killed, well here is the second one

Now that kind of a draft would certainly make them think about it

Here is my modification... every CEO and member of the board of every war time industry, aka GE... has to do the same... as well as upper management

Care to tell me how fast they would stop this?

It reminds if of the Poetry of Owen during WW I.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:31 AM
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1. Little problem -- we don't own other people, so we can't "offer" them. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:05 AM
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2. no, but if you had such a draft system
how fast do you think they'd be willing to go there?

I mean Jenna bush would have to be in uniform, as a medic...

Just saying... replace our economic draft, and you would have them think carefully about it

Hey hon, we are going to war

No we're not...

But...

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:36 AM
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5. During WW2, famous people, rich people, wealthy people, all volunteered
or were drafted. Symbolically, it was very important to see these famous faces in uniform. However, the reality is that plenty of them, though not all, managed to skate like hell.

The hoi polloi were kept "In The Rear With the Gear" or given jobs safely stateside so they wouldn't find themselves anywhere near harm's way.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:02 AM
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9. Ronald Reagan stayed home...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:35 PM
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13. Yep. In the rear with the gear. He made MOVIES to support the war effort! nt
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:28 AM
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12. Even if it were remotely constitutional to single out that group, which it wouldn't be,
it would be unworkable. Jenna Bush in Iraq would be a huge kidnapping target. We'd be wasting a lot of time and effort protecting people like her.
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Diego360 Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:49 AM
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3. Or hows about
for every Representative that votes for the war, his district's draft eligible population gets an extra 10 points (or whatever) each come draft time. Same for Senators, their state's draft eligible population gets heavier odds of being drafted. Reverse would be true for those states/districts voting against the war.

Be interesting to see how hot the war fever burns when it's their specific electorate paying the price.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:47 AM
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6. careful there....
:scared:

:yoiks:

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qdemn7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 03:34 AM
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7. That type of talk is completely unacceptable n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:35 AM
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8. so you wouldn't support a constitutional amendment
to the war powers provisions?

requiring that level of sacrifice?
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qdemn7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:16 AM
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10. You're being disingenuous
You are advocating the assassination of the entire US Government. If a Freeper said that, you would be all over it like a fly on shit.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 05:50 AM
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11. no. I'm not advocating assassination of anyone
I'm suggesting a requirement for going to war

especially the kinds of "wars" our government has waged over the last 60 years.
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