House Fails To Override S-CHIP

[spanone]

cnn developing story

The House has failed to override President Bush's veto of a bill expanding a children's health insurance program.


http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/18/schip/index.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/washington/19healthcnd.html?hp=&pagewanted=print

[MNDemNY]

1. who are the 2 Democratic asshats who voted no?

[bluedog]

6. can't wait to see what F'ing 2

Democrats voted against it....whom ever has to go!

[Virginia Dare]

11. Good question, I assume Kucinich voted yes..

he indicated he would, but maybe there were a couple more who "stood on principle"?

[MNDemNY]

19. Which "principle" would that be?

[Virginia Dare]

34. It covered some, but not others, that was unacceptable to him...n/t

[mvd]

59. Since he came through today, it satisfies me (a supporter)

He knew it would be close today.

[Virginia Dare]

65. He did the right thing, I was glad to see it.....n/t

[mvd]

I sure hope he did

This was too important to not vote yes. I say no compromise; keep bringing it up so that it haunts Bush for the rest of his term.

[John Q. Citizen]

48. Why does Hillary hate the children of legal immigrants? She voted to leave them out in the cold.

If that's representive of her principles, I'm not impressed.

[MNDemNY]

49. What?

[blondeatlast]

52. Since when was she in the House?

:shrug:

[John Q. Citizen]

57. She is in the Senate. They passed a bill which specifically denied overage to the children of legal.

immigrants.

Unbelievable I know, but that's what they did.

So now they have no principles and no bill. Lot of good that did anyone.

[Virginia Dare]

56. Kucinich voted to leave them ALL out in the cold...n/t

[John Q. Citizen]

62. Kucinich has principles and Hillary doesn't. It's pretty obvious. Meanwhile,

her lack of principles just re-enforces in the public mind that most Democrats in congress are just plain unpricipled, and there is no bill.

The Democrats, on the whole, won't go to the mat, won't stand up for what's right.

If you believe that's good for the party, well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

My opinion is they compromised away 600,000 children of LEGAL immigrants and they still have nothing to show for it. Except that they lack principle.

[Virginia Dare]

64. What does Kucinich have to show for it?

he ultimately voted yes to try and help it pass. How is that any different than what Hillary did?

He realized, like Hillary did, that compromising is sometimes better for the overall good than standing on principle. In case you didn't realize, there are is a sizeable group of freepers and their reps who think SCHIP is socialism. This is what we're dealing with.

[Marlie]

Let's face it people

Bush always gets what he wants. If he wants to bomb Iran and start WW-III, he'll get that too.
My God, what's going on in this country?

[bdamomma]

37. I hear a big flush!!!

[John Kerry VonErich]

27. Here it is!!!

---- YEAS 273 ---

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---- NOT VOTING 4 ---

Carson
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Johnson, E. B.
King (NY)

[Justitia]

28. Saw on another thread: Marshall (GA) & Taylor (MS) -eom

[Virginia Dare]

36. Even my REPUB Rep. voted for it, that's really lame...n/t

[mvd]

39. Work as hard as you can, GA and MS Dems, to..

find great Democratic challengers for them. I thought Shuler might have been a nay, but he wasn't.

[John Q. Citizen]

54. My Repo congressman voted against the bill but voted for the over-ride, He wants

his cake and eat it too.

He knew the over-ride would fail, so he supported it so he could say he isn't beholden to bush come NOv. 08

[Virginia Dare]

55. Slick, he did the opposite of Kucinich...

I hope whomever his Dem opponent is runs lots of ads with pics of him kissing up to the chimp.

[John Q. Citizen]

63. My Repo Rep would have voted against it if the bill covered legal immigrants too,so

the comparison is intellectually dishonest.

remember, you started the bashing...so if you don't like it, don't do it.

[Virginia Dare]

66. Kucinich voted FOR it, and I applaud him for that..

not bashing him for it at all. He did what he thought was right. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going around saying he hates kids because he voted against it the first time. That's intellectually dishonest as well.

[John Q. Citizen]

68. I think it was your alluding to principles as if they were a bad thing that got me going.

[Squatch]

2. Do nothing congress, indeed.

We should be mopping the floor with those Republican asshats.

[Virginia Dare]

5. What should they do, break kneecaps?...n/t

[bobbolink]

9. That would be a good start....

:evilgrin:

[Squatch]

10. See? We're gonna have to fit you for a pair of concrete galoshes, now.

[Virginia Dare]

That's the way the repubs do it..

I guess if you can't beat 'em, join 'em?

[Squatch]

15. Abso-freaking-lutely.

[Virginia Dare]

33. Maybe the "whip" needs to start taking his job literally?

[BrklynLib at work]

18. That is what they did to Redd....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2078282

[Virginia Dare]

30. I guess this guy didn't have the sense to take the advice...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2066173&mesg_id=2066173

[bdamomma]

7. this is maddening, fucking children huh?

these reps need their phones to be ringing off the hook. shit!!! how much more are they going to give this asshat *.

[acmavm]

3. I really want to see the breakdown on that one.

[Xipe Totec]

4. GOP blocks health coverage for American children

That's a more accurate headline.

[spanone]

12. i like that headline......maybe the media.......naw

[bdamomma]

16. we need to let them hear from us on this one.

10 million children????????? and they are saying fuck them. and * is saying give them private insurance, geez, where do they get the money for private insurance george, you stupid man.

I am shaking my head in disgust.

[Xipe Totec]

31. And we're building hospitals in Iraq

These two stories need to be juxtaposed:

The $163 million, 94-bed hospital, which will focus on oncology, is targeted to open in January 2009. Once badly foundering, the project has been moving ahead steadily since USACE assumed responsibility for its management and a new contractor was brought in.

Dorko cast a professional engineer’s eye on the construction work and pronounced it “decent.” He said hospital construction is very hard to begin with, and added that “I can’t imagine how much harder it is” in place that has had to cope with oppression, war and violence.

“It’s a magnificent project and I can’t wait to come back and see it when it's finished,” said Dorko. Construction is now 66 percent complete, Lorenzana told him.

The Basrah Children’s Hospital was one of a number of job sites Dorko is visiting prior to taking command of GRD. Already he has visited a newly constructed berth at Umm Qasr Port and Camp Bucca, where 20,500 detainees are housed.


http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14389&Itemid=1

[tridim]

20. Just watch, the 11% approval number will drop even further..

and the GOP will use that number to attack the "Democrat Congress".

[John Kerry VonErich]

8. This is one of those bills where I wish there was a line item veto

Maybe things might go a lil more easier. IMO

[backscatter712]

13. What was the final count?

[BrklynLib at work]

14. Totally nauseating. and they want to know why Congress' approval rating is so low???

[tridim]

21. It's because of the Republicans

But the MSM will never point that out.

[mvd]

26. Yep

Or they don't bother to dive deeper with the questioning in order to find that truth.

[TwilightZone]

41. Very true.

Unfortunately, that tends to get ignored here a lot, as well.

[spanone]

29. 11 percent

[mvd]

17. Unbelievable

Very nice pre-holiday coal given to the kids by the Repukes.

[AspenRose]

22. How dare any republican congressperson call themselves 'pro-life'

when they've done this.

[bdamomma]

23. Roy Blunt on now, just saying okay let's move on, oh, I hate these people

[monmouth]

24. Dems from GA and MS voted against the program.

Marshall (D-GA-8) and Taylor (D-MS-4) didn't vote for SCHIP
They were the only 2 Dems.

[Va Lefty]

25. Wonder how long before

Lord Haw-Haw struts out before TV cameras to celebrate denying health care to millions of sick kids?

[Justitia]

32. The pukes fucking APPLAUDED & CHEERED when it failed on the floor!

[John Kerry VonErich]

35. Not too harsh now...

Shelly Moore Capitto is a Bush flunky, she voted yea on this. Shocked me.

[Virginia Dare]

38. YAAAY for sick children!!!

YAAY for the suffering children...YAAY for the poor miserable struggling parents of SICK CHILDREN!!

FUCKING MONSTERS!!!!

[mvd]

43. Couldn't have said it better

:thumbsup:

There will be crying going on next election day.

[bdamomma]

44. I thought I heard that, what heartless disgusting people.

I wish we could drag them to see our reality.

[Virginia Dare]

51. They'll all go golfing this afternoon..

and then out for big steak dinner to celebrate..:mad: :puke:

[sufrommich]

40. We desperately need to increase our numbers

and votes like this are the reason why. Two lousy,cowardly Dems sunk the ship.That's all it took.

[bluedog]

42. thank you Bill Young of Florida (R)

he voted for the bill....and the rest of the Republicans who voted with the Democrats......

[mvd]

45. Gerlach voted yea, too

He's a Repuke with a sliver of a conscience. I'll have to praise him for this one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Well this shows once again

we can't do a thing

Yes, it is the votes

But it is also something else

and something else nobody wants to face

This country, as we know it, is a shell, an empty shell

[PFunk]

47. You know their is a silver lining to this.

Alot of repugs are now trying to find cover to deal with the backlash heading their way for supporting this veto. And force them to really reconcider their loyalty to bush if nothing else for survival sake. For this 'blunder' will not go away no mater how much spin is put on this. And will probally help take down a few more of them when '08 arrives.

[Virginia Dare]

50. It will be hard for them to go home and face..

their constituency with this one. Especially with the obscene amounts of money that are going to Iraq.

[spanone]

53. how long are they willing to cling to the titanic? i am already amazed

[tridim]

61. At this point they're just rotting corpses in the hull..

The ship sunk long ago.

[spanone]

58. boehner is speaking on cspan 3 the thugs are 'ready to work with the democrats' utter bullshit

[bluedog]

60. wheres Code Pink ?

they should be camping in front of 156 offices,,156 houses of these freaking idiots/

[MadHound]

67. Good, maybe next time the Dems bring this back they will have a more equitable funding mechanism

Sorry, I realize that this is for the kids and all, but putting a 35 billion dollar tax burden on one of the poorest segments of a society via a regressive tax is simply wrong. The Dems let the 'Pugs slip in this funding mechanism, and it stinks to high heaven.

Next time bring it back with a better, more equitable funding mechanism.

[flvegan]

69. I fail to be disappointed anymore.

I'd have been surprised if they got the votes.

A government by the corporation, for the corporation. The majority of our politicians are salespeople with lapel pins.

[OneBlueSky]

70. honestly, now . . . did you expect anything different? . . . n/t

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