Just for the moment...I GIVE UP.FUCK 'EM ALL.

[Tyler Durden]

I just heard someone bitching about "...good. Stop giving away everything to anyone who wants it..." regarding the SCHIP debacle.

Then I heard another one. And another.

FACTORY WORKERS, making $8/hour, bitching that someone's getting a freebie THEY AREN'T.

Fuck 'em all. At this moment, I feel like the whole shithouse is going to burn down anyway, so I'm just hoping I get to see a few of these SELFISH, GREEDY BASTARDS FRY. SLOWLY.

:banghead: :rant:

[Hydra]

1. Seconded

"I've got what I need, so what's your fucking problem???"

Is this the America we want? Apparently it is, since it is so.

[Tyler Durden]

5. I vote for SECESSION!

We, the undersigned perfectly normal people of the State of ____________(Michigan will my entry) do hereby secede from the United States of UTTERLY BATSHIT AMERICA, and petition the Dominion of Canada for inclusion as a Province.

[Hydra]

7. It's been suggested

and I'm for it. Split the US into various zones, and make Bush the King of the F***ing WH...and that's it.

[Tyler Durden]

13. It's starting to look like the country is just too damned HUGE to continue as a Republic.

There are too many special interests and greedy rich assholes using the different areas to their own advantage. We should dissolve the Union before it explodes.

[Initech]

20. We could be like the old Stone Cutters episode of the Simpsons.

At the end of the episode, the Stone Cutters are so tired of Homer being the supreme overlord of the club that they break off and leave Homer to run the old Stone Cutters building, and that's it.

[Hydra]

32. perfect

Bushco needs us, we don't need them. We should be pointing that fact out.

[bryant69]

2. That's a pretty understandable sentiment. n/t

[redqueen]

4. Only if you accept that greed is understandable. n/t

[bryant69]

15. Allow me to clarify - Tyler Durden's rage is pretty understandable. n/t

[redqueen]

22. hahahahaha...oops!

:hi:

[Tyler Durden]

8. Bryant, there's GREED and then there is STUPID, SELF CENTERED IDIOTIC GREED.

There would be a net SAVINGS if 1/10 of these kids didn't have to WAIT until they had a 105° FEVER to go to a MEDICAIDE hospital that charges the government $300 every time a kid like that hits the DOOR, THEN add tests, Doctor's fees and meds.

This is such a no-brainer that even the greedy damned rePUKES should vote for it.

[bryant69]

16. see above. n/t

[Tyler Durden]

19. we crossed in posting.

[redqueen]

3. Makes misanthropy and the Straussian view very tempting, doesn't it?

If they want to be sheep, perhaps that's for the best... let them meander blindly into the slaughterhouse.

But no... there are innocents suffering due to the stupidity and selfishness of assholes like that.



I hope you feel better soon... :pals:

[Tyler Durden]

10. I'll be fine.

I just had to rant some of it out of me before I drove home in 30 minutes. God Help the other drivers if I hadn't.

[redqueen]

12. Glad you got it out here.

:hi:

[KansDem]

21. As Eli Wallch said to Yul Brynner in "Magnificent Seven"

"If God didn't want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep!"

[Tyler Durden]

25. SHEARED sheep don't die.

Better analogy? I'd rather be a shepherd than a cowboy.

[gateley]

6. It's fear. They're in such difficult circumstances now they're afraid of anything

that even HINTS at taking more of their paychecks. I know the specifics, but that's what the Repubs are saying - that taxes will go up and it's too expensive.

[quiet.american]

9. I've been there myself. n/t

[Tyler Durden]

17. I've been broke and homeless...

But I broke a sandwich or a cigarette in half to share with another who had nothing.

[redqueen]

23. ...

:loveya:

[quiet.american]

36. Truly wonderful. n/t

[bdamomma]

11. their bad karma will catch up with them.

[Javaman]

14. the shithouse is already on fire. nt

[BornagainDUer]

18. Orwell, pots and pans, and the infantilization of the US public.

In "1984" Winston Smith is outraged as you are Tyler when he sees people fighting with each other at a pots and pans being distributed by the Ministry of Plenty.

Remember the Cabbage Patch kids fight back in the 80's.

Fackin' nuts!

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Tyler we will see this cold civil war go to hot

soon

And that is one reason

[trashcanistanista]

26. And I for one, can't fucking wait

for that to happen. I am ready to take to the streets! Right fucking NOW!

[Tyler Durden]

27. I'm not.

I saw 1970 first hand. Tear Gas REALLY SUCKS and I can't picture rubber bullets or bean bag shotgun loads being much better.

This would all be so unnecessary...

[rockymountaindem]

30. Or in the case of a real Civil War where people are lined up and shot

See the Lawrence Massacre in our own history or any of the things that went down in Russia or Spain for examples. God forbid that should ever happen here again (I doubt it will).

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. The conditions for that happening are actually

being laid

What we are living through right now are the preliminary stages for a hot civil war

This increasing division in civil society is precisely the kind of preliminatries that has occured in all nations before a hot civil war

Look at Spain, hell the Balkans... the divisions started in civil society and lasted for years before the first bullet was fired

In the US that process lasted anywhere from one to two generations before Fort Sumter

And I pray I am wrong.

Becasue if I am right it will be ugly and I doubt the political map will remain the same when all is said and done.

This nation has nine distinct cultural areas, and have been identified before

Look for this classsic from the 1980s

The Nine Nations of North America

And here is a PDF

http://www.umkc.edu/WHMCKC/PUBLICATIONS/MCP/MCPPDF/Garreau-9-10-81.pdf

[rockymountaindem]

39. Except the problems in the Balkans and Spain resulted from *centuries* of division

And in the case of the Balkans erupted between various nations divided by language, culture and religion. Here in the United States our bonds of nationhood hold us together rather than divide us like Croats and Serbs, or Catalans and Castillians. That kind of division doesn't exist here.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. It existed in 1820 on

and I will argue that it exists right now

read the PDF

(Of course I also argue it is done on purpose, cui bono?)

[blues90]

28. I don't get anything in this country anylonger

It all seems to be a I've got mine screw you attitude . This is until the people who are against helping others find themselves in the same boat and I really hope they do and soon .

If it's all about taxes then lets do this . All the reps work for the people and are paid by the people . So then divide the tax , give the repuds the taxes paid by the repubs and the dems the taxes paid by the dems . If anyone in the government is not for helping on insurance the let them lose theirs with their vote against SCHIP .

This selfish attitude runs through all veins in this country and it is a sickness that kills .

[Tyler Durden]

29. Every situation has a tipping point.

Global Warming, Health Care, Unemployment, all of it.

One day, you've just let it go one step too far.

[blues90]

35. I'm afraid it has already reached the tipping point

I don't want to sound like a whiner or one who gives up easy , however the way the issues you have mentioned continue to get worse each day and each day so many people are affected but never are they heard from or seen then we have reached the point of no return . If we are to push the load back to a balance point it's going to take decades and that is if it's still possible .

Most days in the last year , I have come to believe it is to late , at least for me at my age , I will never see the change for the better .

As you know it takes time and even years to create something of good whether it is to build a violin or hope but it takes seconds to destroy it .

[annabanana]

31. Do they know THEY might be eligible?

$8 per hour factory workers pretty could pretty much fall into the covered demo...

[TexasBushwhacker]

33. But wouldn't those factory workers be eligible?

"FACTORY WORKERS, making $8/hour, bitching that someone's getting a freebie THEY AREN'T."

I mean, if they're getting their coverage through work, goodie for them, but if they aren't $8 an hour translates to less than $17K per year.

[Junkdrawer]

38. That was always the amazing thing about dittoheads and Freepers...

"I think that unfortunate fucks like myself should be screwed to the wall by the rich. It's only fair." :crazy:

[LSK]

37. EUROPE DOESNT EXIST

THE EURO DOESNT ABSOLUTELY KICK THE DOLLARS ASS AND THEY HAVE SOCIALISM OVER THERE BECAUSE EUROPE DOESNT EXIST.

SO LETS KEEP FUCKING GRABBING AROUND BLINDLY IN THE DARK BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO DO HEALTHCARE!!!!

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