My vote for president in Nov 08 won't matter anyway

[proud2BlibKansan]

I live in Kansas. The last time my state's electoral votes went to a Democrat was 1964.
http://www.statemaster.com/red/state/KS-kansas/pre-presidential-elections&all=1

So I don't need to be persuaded to vote for the Dem regardless of who it is. Barring a major miracle, the Dem candidate won't get the electoral votes from my state.

I actually feel quite relieved. I have made my decision about who to vote for in the primary and once that is over, I can choose any candidate I want and not feel like I am betraying the Democratic party.

I am leaning towards Colbert. And since he is running as a Republican AND a Democrat, I can support him here on DU.

Life is good. :)

[nightrider767]

1. Voting ALways counts

Even if you never win, you can't look back and say you did your best to change things unless you voted.

So yes, even you're the last Democrat left in the world,,,, go out and vote.

As to Colbert.... Hmmm, very interesting. I never considered him, but now that you mention him..........

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. I wrote in Pat Paulsen in 1972

No way could I vote for Nixon and McGovern pissed me off when he threw Eagleton off the ticket. So I proudly cast my vote for Pat Paulsen.

And I realized today that I could write in a candidate again this time. So far, I like Colbert. He sure would be an entertaining president. :)

[bahrbearian]

8. You sure you want to date yourself that far back

I voted for him too.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. Hey - let's start a support group!

LOL I thought my dad would strangle me when I told him who I voted for.

[bahrbearian]

28. Did he want you to vote for Nixon then, my dad did.

he didn't seem to care that my draft number was #11 either, I think a support group might be good for me.

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. No he was a good Dem and voted for McGovern

[nightrider767]

35. Well You Guys Vote for

Paulsen if you like. I'm still leaning toward Colbert.

Colbert is so popular that even Kucinich caries a miniaturized version of him, along with the Constitution, right in his breast pocket.

You don't see anyone carrying around a miniaturized version of Paulsen now do ya?

[proud2BlibKansan]

40. Paulsen is dead

So it will have to be Colbert.

[nightrider767]

48. Well It's not uncommon for voters to be dead,

So why not politicians? Way less chance for them to do damage that way.

[Blue_In_AK]

42. Pat Paulsen visited Denver in 1968

when he was running. He drew a HUGE crowd. :)

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. Didn't he run in every presidential election until he died?

[Blue_In_AK]

58. You could be right.

I know 1968 was the first time. He was such a funny guy.

[msongs]

2. then there's no point in you even talking about democratic candidates is there? nt

[monktonman]

5. Touche' n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Je parles Francais

so be careful :)

[monktonman]

27. A gabba gabba hey!

I speak dumb American.
So you be carefuller. ;-)

[proud2BlibKansan]

38. I teach special ed

So I have no fear of dumb American. In fact, I am fluent :)

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Sure there is.

I live a few miles from Missouri, where a Dem vote just might count in 2008. So yes, I do need to talk about Democratic candidates. My friends across the state line will have an important decision to make.

[bahrbearian]

31. What ? just because our votes don't count, doesn't mean we can't influence.

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. Sigh - they will never stop trying to silence our leftist voices

[TomInTib]

4. My vote doesn't matter, either.

I live in Marin County, CA.

Hell, I don't even know who my Representative is at either State or National level.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. I do have a neighbor running for state rep who is fabulous

Very progressive. Great man. So I will definitely help him on his campaign. That will at least keep me busy this time next year. :)

[TomInTib]

18. Good for you.

When you have a chance, PM me his campaign info and I will send some funds next time I feel flush.

Just for you, proud2Blib.

Then you, too, will be a Fundraiser.

You see, we are all in it together.

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. You're a good man, Tom

As soon as the website is up, I will PM you the info.

Now if we could only talk you into coming east and helping us canvass . . . :)

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. What's the matter with your state? :)

Honestly, I'd like to know. Are the people in Kansas that illiterate, or are they Bible bangers?

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. They are wealthy republicans

The eastern part where I live is not so bad. We have a Dem congressman. He's a blue dog but he's a Dem.

But western Kansas (Bob Dole country) is full of rich, rich and richer farmers and ranchers. And about half of them have gas or oil under their land. So we are seriously talking rich republicans. Not the least bit illiterate. Some bible bangers but more likely wanting to keep all their money and believing that Dems are evil liberals.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

21. There's no love lost between the rich and me. Thank goodness for that. nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

26. I grew up with a bunch of wealthy republicans

Most are selfish pricks.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

39. I believe you.

Republicans have the conscience of a toilet plunger. It thrills them to see the helpless suffer.

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. One of the assholes I went to high school with spent the 2004 election

calling Democrats in this area and telling them to vote on Wed instead of Tues. He got caught. :)

He ran for state house a couple times but I think his career was ended when he played his phone games.

You guys from here who are reading this, he is a Sutherland. Evil family alert. :grr:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

50. They're the scrapings at the bottom of the barrel. I'm SO glad I'm not a Repuke. nt

[skipos]

10. What if Sebelius is on the ticket

She is definitely a VP possibility. Kansas is very, very unlikely to go blue, but wouldn't it suck if the Repub only won by a few hundred votes and 1000+ people voted for Colbert because they thought it was funny? I am sure that sort of thing has happened in elections before.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. I would vote for Sebelius

But if Hillary gets the nomination, do you really think she will choose a woman for VP?

[skipos]

37. no, i don't

but i don't think hillary has it as locked up as some other folks.

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. I hope you are right.

[Hydra]

13. Same

I think I'm in the last state of the union where Bush has above 50% approval. I'm still voting in the primary, but Dean didn't get it last time, so I doubt my choice will get it this time.

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. So are you thinking of a write in like me?

[DemBones DemBones]

22. I am. My vote won't count, either,

so I don't feel obligated to support the party nominee. I've done the right thing all these years and gotten little for it. I voted for Gene McCarthy in 1968. :hippie: It was a tough choice because I wanted to support Shirley Chisholm, too.

If more of us in "red" states had voted for Nader, it would have sent a stronger message to the party. Not that I think they'd have listened but it's slightly possible.

[Hydra]

23. Dunno yet

Depends on if Gore runs. Otherwise I'll have to make a tough decision regarding Kucinich(unelectable but with the right principles, though I don't like his immigration stand), or Edwards(not liking the pro-war stance, but is electable and might do something about the economy)

[daninthemoon]

17. I feel ya. I'm south of ya in Oklahoma. At least our votes do count

in the primary. Hopefully. Ever read the book "What went wrong with Kansas?" Depressing and enlightening. Our countrymen and neigbors vote for whatever rw supposed "religious" good rethuglican, in direct opposition to their own self interest. How many times have you been utterly shocked at some ignorant completely false position you've heard from someone in conversation. Do "churches" in your neighborhood hand out "approved" voting lists for people to follow? Still seeing those stupid "W" stickers? I saw one yesterday.
Keep your chin up. We are not really alone.

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. The author of that book grew up in the same suburb I did

So I definitely felt his pain.

I saw a "W" sticker the other day. First I had seen in a long time though. I am in KC, and this area is fairly progressive. So I really don't run into a lot of rw freaks. We do have some, though. I don't know about the churches. There are a few talibornagain mega churches that probably do hand out voting guides. But I don't belong to a church and I certainly don't hang out near any of the crazier ones.

[Selatius]

19. I live in FREAKING MISSISSIPPI

How do you think I feel? The only comfort the state offers here is the luxury of voting my conscience. I can't say the same for folks in Florida though. They're trapped into voting for the Democrat regardless if they like the candidate or not, unless they want to make it easier for the Repubs to win.

[DemBones DemBones]

24. Is that near Jackson or closer to Itta Bena?

:hippie:

(I've been to Itta Bena, just FYI. It's one of my favorite strange town names, along with Two Egg, FL, Demopolis, AL, and Bell Buckle, TN.)

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. Ever been to Peculiar, MO?

Yes, it is a peculiar town.

[Selatius]

45. Starkville is south of Tupelo, birth place of Elvis. It's where I attend college.

Otherwise, I'm on the coast in the footprint of Katrina.

[proud2BlibKansan]

29. That's a good way to look at it

The luxury of voting my conscience. I like that expression. Thanks! :hi:

I have a hard time feeling sorry for Floridians. Especially this time of year. In a few weeks it will be winter here.

[ileus]

33. Hillary: 50 States in 2008

[proud2BlibKansan]

46. This isn't the nightmare forum

I think that is in the groups listings.

[NC_Nurse]

34. NC is always red and our primary is REALLY late.

I will vote, but it won't matter. :hi:

People think there is a chance for NC to turn blue. I seriously doubt it. Our gov is a Dem, but he stays WELL AWAY from the national party.
Aside from Chapel Hill, Durham, and maybe inner-city Charlotte...it's a sea of red out there.

The whole eastern half of the state is full of military bases. They want more funding, not less.

On edit: Asheville, I forgot them - another blue area.

[proud2BlibKansan]

51. I love Asheville

Went there on vacation 2 years ago. Met a DUer there too. :)

[NC_Nurse]

52. Yep, Asheville rocks!

:-)

[Lex]

53. All our blue city populations added together could defeat the red rural

if we could get out the vote big-time in the cities in NC.

[pnwmom]

36. That kind of attitude will help ensure Kansas remains a red state.

Thanks a bunch.

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. Yes my one vote will make a huge difference!

:sarcasm:

[pnwmom]

57. I live in a state where the Governor's election was determined

by only 47 votes.

Yes, one vote, or a handful of votes, can make a difference -- and this could be another 1964, depending on how much election fraud takes place.

And a post like yours could influence many others to think that their "one" vote didn't matter -- but cumulatively, they do.

[proud2BlibKansan]

59. A governor's election is not dependent upon an electoral college

[pnwmom]

61. You have a female Democratic governor who won in a landslide.

And just a handful of people in a single state could be what determines the electoral win for the whole country.

I know Kansas voters are usually red, but if there were ever a time for Kansas voters to turn purple with rage, it would be next year.

I couldn't access this article the second time I tried, but you can look at it once without paying for a subscription. It's an article from the New Republic talking about the growing strength of the Dems in Kansas politics. Having read it, I wouldn't discount the possibility of Obama winning the state, or HRC.

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20070910&s=judis091007

[proud2BlibKansan]

62. I live here so I know exactly what is going on

and the chances to turn this state purple - remote at best.

I also know just who my conscience will allow me to vote for and who I can't. And for the first time in 35 years, I have decided to vote my conscience.

[mdmc]

54. My electoral vote will go to the dem

[Individualist]

55. My vote may not matter to others, but it always matters to me

I live in a part of TN that has a republican majority, but I always refuse to let that majority influence my vote, nor do I let pundits, polls, lockstep loyalists to a particular candidate, or MSM influence it. I vote for the candidate who will best represent the people of this country and will continue to do so.

[UTUSN]

56. & THAT's why Rethugs "WIN"!!1

If *every* eligible voter voted, there would not be ONE Rethug in office ANYWHERE!!1


The reason Rethugs *are* in office is because peeps DON'T VOTE!!1

[proud2BlibKansan]

60. Where did I say I wasn't voting?

I have yet to miss ANY election.