Nancy wants us to contact "obstructionist Republicans"

[proud2BlibKansan]

She says they "will be haunted for as long as they are in office or as long as they continue to resist giving health insurance to America’s children".

So are we supposed to forget about the Dems who voted no today?

http://www.dccc.org/action_center/petitions/childrens_health_care

[Horse with no Name]

1. Make you a deal Nancy

We'll take on the "obstructionist Republicans" if YOU take on the obstructionist Democrats.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. Sure wish she would start doing her damn job

[Mass]

2. By all means, contact them, but they were 2. Having them on board would not have changed anything

to the result. We need to contact the 156 Republicans as well.

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Better get busy then!

[NotGivingUp]

3. Take a hike, Nancy! n/t

[cuke]

16. Don't you like SCHIP?

Or is your hatred more important?

[LittleClarkie]

20. And take yer sick little kids with you

Lovely.

[angstlessk]

4. but but but...they don't consider us their constituents cause we don't agree with their stances

didn't you say that Nancy?? ONLY THOSE WHO AGREE WITH YOU CAN MEET WITH YOU?

[tridim]

5. Yes, forget about the 2 DINOs..

Or trash the whole party because of them, the choice is yours.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. Nah we just need to trash the leaders of the party

[monktonman]

6. OK maybe this time she has a point.

We have to be resonable sometimes.
There were only two Dems that voted against it. fuck them
Maybe she's right this time, we should be blasting the pukes on this one. fuck them harder!
The Dems did OK this time.

I'm just wondering how long it's gonna take for Nancy to apologize for
Pete Starks remarks of this afternoon.

[liberalmuse]

7. Put Impeachment on the table, and I'll contact every 'puke in Congress.

Meet us halfway, here.

[LittleClarkie]

19. Meet her half way on what?

Doing the right thing?

[Warren DeMontague]

8. Another Pelosi hate-fest. How original.

Did she not vote the way you wanted on this deal? :shrug:

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. Once again, she fails to control her own party

and points the finger of bad at the other party.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. "She fails to control her own party"... yes, a whopping 2 members.

:eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. On THIS vote

There was also that FISA vote, and votes to fund the war.

[cuke]

17. Authoritarian much?

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. Actually not at all

But I am not the speaker of the house. :)

[cuke]

25. I've noticed

[proud2BlibKansan]

27. How astute!

[LittleClarkie]

21. How many Dems vs how many Republicans voted nay. Now which group do you think makes a difference

Sure, contact the two, but somehow I think the bigger group of dissenters will make more of a difference. What was it, 30? Can't remember off the top of my head.

[mondo joe]

26. She's not the queen. She's not supposed to "control her party" any more than Bush is

supposed to control you.

[LittleClarkie]

32. Interesting how people balk at what they perceive as being made to walk in lock step sometimes

and yet that's exactly what they want the Congress to do.

[proud2BlibKansan]

42. Yeah right

Ever watch how the republicans do it?

[mondo joe]

46. Democrats aren't Republicans. NT

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. They sure could use a few tips from the repukes

Starting with how to show unity on certain legislation.

[mondo joe]

Show unity? You mean like not harassing your own party reps?

Don't expect Democratic reps to show any more UNITY than you expect of the Democrats who vilify them.

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. We have plenty of unity in my part of the party

And we are determined to take back our party from obstructionists like Nancy. Or we can always make other choices in November 08. So if the Dems want us, they are going to have to come get us. And before you say 'good riddance' please know that here where I live we are the grassroots who canvass, phone bank and raise money for the Dems. We are the precinct chairs who organized the local party in the first place. Claire McCaskill would never have won the western part of the state (and the election) if not for the work my group did on her campaign. So yes, we do matter. And yes, we will be voting with our feet. The party is already calling and complaining that so many of us are unwilling to help start up phone banks, as we have done for so many previous elections.

So yes, we will harrass our reps. We earned our right to do so.

[mondo joe]

51. "In my party of the party".

Thanks for proving my point.

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. They sure didn't marginalize us this time last year

when they needed our money and our labor. And if you think (especially here in red state hell) they can afford to lose us, you would be wrong.

[mondo joe]

53. Sorry, I'm laughing too hard at your hypocrisy to take you seriously for the moment.

When you call on others to show party unity and be more like republicans, but hold yourself to a different standard it makes me laugh. A lot.

[proud2BlibKansan]

56. And the irony of you calling me a hypocrite

is just too priceless for words.

[mondo joe]

57. If you could point out a reason you might have a point.

As usual, you do not.

[proud2BlibKansan]

61. And as usual,

you would rather be nasty than actually have a discussion.

[mondo joe]

62. Here's how it works.

You call on others to show party unity, but fail to have any yourself. That is hypocritical.

[renie408]

64. Who wants to be like Republicans?? n/t

[Rhythm and Blue]

12. There were TWO Democrats who voted no. Include them, but the Republicans are far more to blame. nt

[backscatter712]

14. She could stop obstructing impeachment.

That would be helpful in getting this nation's shit back together.

[LittleClarkie]

24. What is that supposed to be, the magic pill. You think that if we were in the middle of impeachment

proceedings that the Republicans would be less entrenched?

How much other work do you think we'd be getting done in the middle of impeachment proceedings? Do you really think people would be focussed on ANYTHING else?

[backscatter712]

28. Because impeachment is the right thing to do.

Because Bush and Cheney are fucking war criminals responsible for the deaths of A MILLION PEOPLE. Because they made a mockery of the Constitution. Because they obstructed justice, because they fired U.S. Attorneys for obeying the law instead of playing ball and breaking the law. Because they cheated their way into office through massive election fraud.

Not to mention because if we continue to let those psychopathic sons of bitches run loose, we'll end up with a new dark age of fascism. No, I'm not kidding or exaggerating with this. Bush and Cheney are literally turning this country into their pet dictatorship, and if we don't stop them, the only option left will be armed insurrection. At least nobody gets literally shot with impeachment.

And don't tell me Congress is incapable of conducting an impeachment in parallel with normal business. They can and did with Clinton's impeachment. Besides, what's getting done in normal business? Next to nothing. Except for more erosions of our civil liberties and funding and endorsement of illegal wars and wanton death and destruction. All the productive legislation like S-CHIP is getting filibustered by the Congressional Repukes or vetoed by Bush. The country would be better off if Congress' regular business was ground to a halt.

[LittleClarkie]

30. So it's the right thing to do. So is calling your Congressman about SCRIP

Or can't YOU multi-task?

[proud2BlibKansan]

43. Nice strawman

[madrchsod]

18. as long as she`s the speaker of the house

those two that voted no are going to be relegated to sweeping the floors. they are on their own and will probably switch to the republicans.

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. Kiss my ass, Nancy. Put Impeachment on the table and we'll deal.

:grr:

[LittleClarkie]

31. Deal with what? Doing the right thing?

So you can't push for impeachment and call you Congressman? Do you not think the bill is a good one? If you don't, that's fine, but are you going to let WHO is asking you for help get in the way of doing what is right?

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. When SHE does what is right, I'll pick up my phone, OK?

Calling those SOBs isn't going to do a damn thing. My Congressman is a freakin' repuke. I wouldn't call him anyway. He's an asshole.

When the Democrats start Impeachment proceedings, I'll start helping them. I'm sick of their shit. We've worked our asses off to get them where they are and they ignore us. We're called loony Liberals by them. Screw them. The repukes already KNOW 80% of the people wanted that bill passed! Did that matter? NO. Calling them isn't going to do jack shit. They're assholes.

[LittleClarkie]

35. But it's not to help THEM, it's to help the PEOPLE

what do you think the bill is FOR?

[in_cog_ni_to]

38. Don't you UNDERSTAND? Calling those assholes is a waste of time!

They already know 80% of the voting public wanted that bill passed and it didn't matter! They don't CARE what we think.

And for Nancy, like I said, if she wants US to do something for her she can start Impeachment proceedings. I'm never lifting a finger for her....ever again. Period. End of subject.

[puebloknot]

33. First things first: First, we contact Obstructionist Nancy Pelosi! nt

[LittleClarkie]

36. She's not obstructing this bill.

Do you think it's a bad bill? If not, then why not fight for it? The bill, not Nancy, the bill.

[puebloknot]

39. After a very long day, my sentiment had to do with her overall record. nt

[MagickMuffin]

37. A change in tactic: Roadblock Republicons

They need to start shouting that the Democratic Party couldn't get anything done in the 109th congress because of RubberStamp Republicons. And that can't get anything passed in the 110th congress because of Roadblock Republicons.

I know, I know there are still Demos who vote against our/the country's best interest. But they should have challengers in every primary across this nation. We progressives/liberals need to realize that we can run good candidates against some of these Republicon-lites that are in the party.

Has anyone ever done a survey to find out how many of these Demos are cross overs, from the dark side???

I know Jim Webb used to be a Republicon. How many others are there that are trying to damage the DP???

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. Nancy Boyda

Kansas 2nd district. Former republican. Calls herself progressive now. :rofl:

[robinlynne]

40. I find FISA much more haunting! We can fix healthcare. The destruction of democracy

and elimination of all the evidence, is much harder to fix!

[Mass]

44. Sure, we can fix healthcare. But many more will suffer while we do not fix it than will suffer from

a FISA bill, as bad as it is.

So, may be it is time to fight for BOTH, or are we using a strawman to avoid fighting for problems that kill many, many American. Yes, the healthcare crisis kills.

[proud2BlibKansan]

48. So does the war on Iraq

And the war costs $720 MILLION a day. If the Dems and their leaders had the necessary spine to end the war and bring our troops home, we would have no problem finding the money to fund SCHIP and many other health care programs.

[robinlynne]

65. of course. You're both right. I didn't mean it that way. just find the FISA thing terrifying,

and the possibility that our representatives might let this happen.

[sufrommich]

63. Should we put all other issues on the backburner until we get

FISA fixed? What kind of platform is that?

[jpgray]

45. Can someone explain to me how Pelosi is a more worthy target than any GOP politician?

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. Some of us gave her money

Some of us helped her (our) party win last November. So you bet she is a worthy target. She is supposed to representing OUR interests.

[mondo joe]

54. Looks like you have quite a record of poor judgment.

All the more reason to be highly skeptical of you now.

[proud2BlibKansan]

55. So I take it you don't support her?

Since you are criticizing MY judgment, then surely you had better judgment last campaign season.

[mondo joe]

58. I supported candidates I'm content with.

I wasn't dumb enough to think I was buying something I wasn't.

[sufrommich]

59. Because some here have become so filled with hatred

for the Democratic party in general that they will gladly throw insurance for children under the bus to keep it fed.It's pathetic.

[mondo joe]

60. And so filled with hatred for the Democratic party that they can't do basic math

either.