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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:46 PM
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Does China meet the definition of Fascism?
I know that on the books they're considered communist, but are they really? At least from this side of the ocean they appear to be run by corporate bigwigs as much as by a command and control economy.

Anyone with greater expertise in Sinology care to offer an opinion?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:57 PM
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1. Communists still have final say. ---This is why everyone
gets in such a twit. We cannot upset China.

It did not take Mattel long to make the public apology after
China told them to do so. Yes, Companies make a lot
of money there but on China's terms.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:02 PM
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2. China's Communist in name only.
In reality, China's a totalitarian state that's in cahoots with big business - they're hyper-capitalist.

I'd say that brings them within the definition of fascism.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:10 PM
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3. This is an interesting article...
Note that corporatism is often associated with fascism:

http://chinaview.wordpress.com/2007/01/08/the-writing-on-the-wall-china-power-corruption-and-lies/



...

The truth is that China is not the socialist market economy the party describes, nor moving towards capitalism as the western consensus believes. Rather it is frozen in a structure that I describe as Leninist corporatism - and which is unstable, monumentally inefficient, dependent upon the expropriation of peasant savings on a grand scale, colossally unequal and ultimately unsustainable. It is Leninist in that the party still follows Lenin’s dictum of being the vanguard, monopoly political driver and controller of the economy and society. And it is corporatist because the framework for all economic activity in China is one of central management and coordination from which no economic actor, however humble, can opt out.

...

Absolute power corrupts, and the Chinese Communist party has become one of the most corrupt organisations the world has ever witnessed. The combination of absolute power and an ideology that palpably no longer describes reality is a virus that is morally and psychologically undermining the regime. And if the regime wobbles, then its capacity to sustain the unsustainable economic structures will wobble and Leninist corporatism will unravel. Beijing’s authority could fragment and China’s provinces reassert their destructive independence as they did in the 1910s and 20s, or a new and fiercely repressive regime could try to hold the country together abandoning economic openness and market reforms - and even pick some international fights (such as invading Taiwan?) to rally the country to its side.

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:33 PM
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5. Here's another one

It takes an angry village to revolt in rural China



Residents occupy seat of local government, fed up with officials selling off communal farmland
Oct 11, 2007 04:30 AM
Bill Schiller
ASIA BUREAU

XIANTANG VILLAGE, China–After years of simmering suspicion and mounting anger, the citizens of this sleepy south China village of 3,500 decided they weren't going to take it anymore.

They were disturbed by what they saw: local politicians seemed to keep getting richer and everyone else kept falling behind while communally owned farmland kept disappearing beneath commercial developments.

>snip<

Under law, farmland – unlike urban land – is owned by the community as a whole and regarded as the bedrock of a Chinese peasant's means to make a living.

So on July 2, hundreds of concerned citizens laid siege to Xiantang Village Hall demanding to examine the books.
(more)


This article was originally was posted by another DUer, but I couldn't find that link, sorry.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:28 PM
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4. they are truly morphing from the ideal of a socialist one party republic to
a fascist one party republic. with the communist party being the one party that rules everything.

pretty undemocratic, pretty totalitarian and now pretty well corrupted by capitalism as well.

thats how capitalism beats communism. irresistible greed.
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