H. R. 3835: This is one sweet piece of legislation!

[SergeyDovlatov]

Have you seen this? This is amazing.

http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/storage/afagenda/documents/AFA%20Act%20text.pdf
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/finally-action-ron-pau_b_69042.html

SEC. 3. MILITARY COMMISSIONS; ENEMY COMBATANTS; HABEAS
CORPUS.
(a) The Military Commissions Act of 2006 is hereby repealed.
(c) The President is prohibited from detaining any individual indefinitely ...
(d) Any individual detained as an enemy combatant by the United States shall be
entitled to petition for a writ of habeas corpus under section 2241 of title 28,
United States Code.

SEC. 4. TORTURE OR COERCED CONFESSIONS.

No civilian or military tribunal of the United States shall admit as evidence
statements extracted from the defendant by torture or coercion.

...

SEC. 6. PRESIDENTIAL SIGNING STATEMENTS.
The House of Representatives and Senate collectively shall enjoy standing to file a
declaratory judgment action in an appropriate Federal district court to challenge
the constitutionality of a presidential signing statement that declares the
President's intent to disregard provisions of a bill he has signed into law because
he believes they are unconstitutional.

SEC. 7. KIDNAPPING, DETENTIONS, AND TORTURE ABROAD.
No officer or agent of the United States shall kidnap, imprison, or torture any
person abroad based solely on the President's belief that the subject of the
kidnapping, imprisonment, or torture is a criminal or enemy combatant; provided
that kidnapping shall be permitted if undertaken with the intent of bringing the
kidnapped person for prosecution or interrogation to gather intelligence before a
tribunal that meets international standards of fairness and due process. A knowing
violation of this section shall be punished as a felony punishable by a fine or
imprisonment of up to 2 years.

SEC. 8. JOURNALIST EXCEPTION TO ESPIONAGE ACT.
Nothing in the Espionage Act of 1917 shall prohibit a journalist from publishing
information received from the executive branch or Congress unless the publication
would cause direct, immediate, and irreparable harm to the national security of
the United States.

SEC. 9. USE OF SECRET EVIDENCE TO MAKE FOREIGN TERRORIST
DESIGNATIONS.

Notwithstanding any other law, secret evidence shall not be used by the President
or any other member of the executive branch to designate an individual or
organization with a United States presence as a foreign terrorist or foreign
terrorist organization for purposes of the criminal law or otherwise imposing
criminal or civil sanctions.

[slipslidingaway]

1. K&R thanks for posting...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-3835

[Bitwit1234]

2. Republicans might vote for it, but bush will veto it.

[mmonk]

3. I support this.

[druidity33]

4. i'll K&R

Ron Paul has some crazy ideas, but this ain't one of them!

Kudos to him!

Naomi Wolf writes a glowing endorsement at the HuffPo link...

[mmonk]

5. The American Freedom Campaign is for us all.

It's about restoring the framework which has been savaged.

[SergeyDovlatov]

6. This legislation is so 9/10. Kind of undoing 7 years of Bush presidency.

Though I think it will die in the commitee, but I sure want to know how all commitee members voted on it.

[mogster]

7. Good but

Why is Ron Paul a hero for repealing a law his own party made in the first place? It's TORTURE. Are we now to be happy that torture is not legal? Is that our measure stick? Who does Karl Rove work for these days? The Republican party isn't a big tent, it's a party. I don't care if anybody in that party was against or pro torture, they are all responsible for the party's politics.
If Ron Paul want's my support he can switch parties and denounce the Republicans as the nazi's they are.

[SergeyDovlatov]

8. I don't actually care who is initial sponsor of this legislation. It is a good thing to pass.

Especially taking into consideration that one of our leading candidates voted for both Partriot Act and Military Commissions act.

[mmonk]

9. We're all responsible if we don't take the avenue to fix it.

This is such a fix.

[mogster]

12. I can see your point

But the party that created the Military Commision Act in the first place was the Republicans. Not to mention the whole mess they've created.

The Military Commision Act came by in 2006, when the incumbent president was in his second period - he's not electable for a third. He had nothing to lose in setting this legislation in motion, because nobody likes him anyway. So, the legislation goes on for about a year, and then - in the run up to the election - a republican, the GOOD republican - comes along and removes it.

See the bad cop/good cop game here? They talk to each other, repubs, you know. They cooperate to swing the election 2008 to be republican.

[mmonk]

14. You're over thinking things.

I'm not a Ron Paul supporter. I support the constitution and the rule of law and the end of the MCA and other abuses. He belongs to the American Freedom Agenda, I by default belong to the American Freedom Campaign. Both seek restoration of the constitution. Here's a list of allies to the American Freedom Campaign. You may even note Moveon.org is listed. Think they are Ron Paul supporters? I am an Amnesty International member. We are allies to the movement as well. It takes people to make a movement.

http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=45

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. A simple Signing Statement will take care of that bill!

Laws mean nothing in this country anymore. Well, unless you're a pot smoker, then they do.:eyes:

[rasputin1952]

11. Good Lord! A Bill that actually makes sense!

:D

[BlueIris]

16. I know! Did we hit a tesseract or something?

I'm trying to figure out if I accidentally downed some opposite pills this morning along with my multi-vitamins.

[MiniMe]

13. They would need a veto-proof majority for it to become law, not going to happen

Or he will use a signing statement to say something like "except in times of war" or "unless the President is lso the decider".

[mmonk]

15. Section Six deals with signing statements.

[MiniMe]

17. But it isn't law yet

The bill isn't in effect until the President signs it. * would veto the bill.

[mmonk]

18. In reality, it is the law.

Unconstitutional acts and unconstitutional laws aren't.

[MiniMe]

19. True, but the OP was about a bill that has been introduced

You wrote about section 6 dealing with signing statements. That particular bill will not become law, because even if it is passed by congress, * will veto it. Or put a signing statement on it, which would be ironic. But unless there is a veto-proof passage, it will not become law.

[VP505]

20. This is very good

legislation, it will be interesting to see if it goes anywhere, if our reps in Washington are interested in doing what's right this should pass with EVERYONE voting for it in both chambers.