Do you think Bush/Cheney will relinquish power in 2009 ?

[jaysunb]

Poll question: Do you think Bush/Cheney will relinquish power in 2009 ?

From some of the supposed mistatements by Bush--1) I might not either re: Putins hint that he may no go when his times up 2) Democrats seems terrified of these folks. Rockefeller won't release the pre-war report, Ried wants to capitulate-AGAIN-on illegal spying....and so much more, makes me have an uneasy feeling that either the Dems are being blackmailed and/or there's a planned domestic attack that will justify Bush enacting his martial law plan.

They've ALL got to know that a honest administration will prosecute and expose the wrong doing of the past eigth years.

This tinfoil hat is getting tighter by the day, so maybe you folks can make me feel a little safer.

[Swamp Rat]

1. I believe Americans are in for a HUGH1 shock.

I hope I am wrong. :(

[...of J.Temperance]

10. I think W and Cheney will go quietly on January 20th, 2009

Still I was disturbed by W's "joke" about him planning on staying in power past his term.

But I think he and Cheney will go on January 20th, 2009 and the new President and Veep will be sworn in.

[laylah]

47. You really think so Swampy?

What makes you say that :scared:

[truebrit71]

2. They will go quietly...the only way they don't is inconceivable..

...and would result in a new revolution...


01-20-09 cannot come fast enough...

[nightrider767]

7. Or FEMA Camp Incarceration.....

:hide:

[nightrider767]

3. Pray that he leaves

Brothers and Sisters, can you envision life without having to hear from the jackass in chief again?

What a profound affect that would have on us....

[...of J.Temperance]

4. I was disturbed by W's "joke" the other day

When he was asked about Vladimir Putin staying in power past his term....and W chuckled and said:

"I'm planning on doing that myself."

:scared:

It reminded me of W's other "joke" in December 2000, when he said:

"It'd be a lot easier if this were a Dictatorship....just as long as I'm the Dictator"


Now these MIGHT be jokes, but they're immensely unfunny jokes and are also greatly inappropriate jokes for a politician, ANY politician to make.

[Ahpook]

37. I think they will go...

just to keep the illusion we still have a electoral process in this country.

Clinton is in...the dynasty continues.

[Atman]

5. The problem with your premise

They cannot just refuse to relinquish power. There would have to be a reason. THAT is the scary part.

I honestly don't think they intend to relinquish power, but that doesn't mean I expect they'll attempt to keep themselves in office. A more likely scenario is that they'll try to install a toady such as Jeb, or some other torch carrier. That will still involve significant malfeasance and manipulation of the system, but I think that is their ultimate game. Removing one puppet and installing another.

Now...who will that puppet be? That is the question.

.

[nightrider767]

9. They'll need the election to be close

This is gonna be a battle.....

[Atman]

15. Oh, they're working on it. Where do you think Karl's been?

You already hear it on the Corporate Media. They're still boldly proclaiming that the Democrats can easily lose this, despite the insanely lopsided polling. They want us to believe that nearly 75% of the voters will change their minds at the list minute and vote for a cross-dressing mob lacky or a war-mongering BushCo ass-licker, or a lackluster moron TV has-been just because the Democrats haven't been strong enough in stopping them from being so evil.

Do you get that?

They're actually trying to tell us that the majority of Americans, while strongly opposed to the current administration, it's policies and the slate of Republicans flip-floppers and fakers, will vote them back in because the Democrats didn't succeed in stopping them. Seriously...listen. That's the current media spin on this bizarro election.

America hates the Republicans so much that they'll vote them back in because the Democrats won't stop them.

And the scariest part? Americans will probably fall for it once again.

.

[nightrider767]

21. Rove Is in the Mines of Moria consulting with his evil lord..

It could be the opposite of what you think . I believe that the Republicans are almost ceding the election to put us off guard on purpose. They want us to relax and get off our games.

Make no mistake brother, for them the fight has not yet begun.

AN evil thing comes this way... Beware

[atreides1]

13. The problem with your premise is...

That without a strong legislative branch and a judicial branch that has, with a few exceptions, looked the other way or given into Bush's interpretation of the law, he can refuse to relinquish power.

Who will stand up to stop him?

[Atman]

16. Nancy Pelosi? Harry Ried?

Oops. Probably not those guys.

.

[aintitfunny]

6. There is lots of money to be made in the

private sector for ex-officials in general, let alone those that have worked so hard to increase the wealth and power of the largest corporations

[DB1]

8. Will go quietly, It's time to cash in. N/T

[book_worm]

11. there will be an election, a new president will take over on 1/20/07 and chimp will

retire to his ranch and a state of constant drunkeness.

[sufrommich]

46. LOL! Most realistic prediction yet !

[napi21]

12. This conversation reminds me of when so many Pubs said

Bill Clinton would never leave office because he really loved the job. I thought they were silly with that kind of comment, and we are no better.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. Difference is, Clinton, or any OTHER president made

extraconstitutional so called jokes

[Blue_In_AK]

14. I HOPE they'll go quietly...

...but I am concerned. Cheney/Addington have been putting the "imperial presidency" in place for 30 years, so while they themselves may leave, I'm wondering who they plan to put in place to continue to reap the benefits of their coup. You just don't pull off a coup and then walk away.

[jaysunb]

24. Bingo

those two scare me most. :evilfrown:

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. NOPE. Not without a fight. Expect a war in Iran and a terror! attack. Martial Law and no changing

power during a war. Martial Law will be to "keep us safe" from terrorists. The no change of power during war will be so he can be free to be the DICTATOR. The man actually said that he's been thinking about staying on past the 2008 election. He said it. OUT LOUD.

[terrya]

18. Yes.

Chief Justice Roberts will administer the oath of office to the next President at 12:00PM on January 20, 2009. No drama, no tanks circling the White House or anything like that. Another peaceful transition of power.

[jaysunb]

29. Shall you & I have a "cyber" toast at that time ?

LOL !

[Gravel2008]

19. They won't have to relinquish their power

Hillary will make sure they'll continue to be empowered even after stepping down. That's why they'll let her win in the first place. Their agenda will be secure with Hillary at the helm.

[Virginia Dare]

20. if a repub gets elected, probably not...they'll rule by proxy...

by "they" I mean Cheney and the neocons. The chimp will be in a drunken stupor down in Crawford.

[NJCher]

22. what's left to plunder

They've already thrown us into debt for decades upon decades. It wasn't enough to steal the treasury; they then kept stealing and stole whatever they could charge.

On top of that, they've stolen the equity out of most peoples' homes.

There can only be accountability after an act like that.

Time to disappear and disappear they will do.

Remember Poppy bush's statement about if people had known what we did, we'd have been tarred and feathered? His acts don't even come close to the mugging and theft his son and Cheney have perpetuated on the American people.



Cher

[onehandle]

23. Yep. Paraguay awaits. nt

[leftofthedial]

25. they may leave office, though it won't be quetly

but they and the cabal for whom they front won't relinquish power

[cali]

26. I don't think bushco even wants to stay on

I think he's looking forward to sawing brush and making big bucks.

[lutefisk]

31. I predict his "brush sawing" days will end when he leaves office

I'll bet the little creep is counting the days until this stupid cowboy act finally ends. He's had to keep it up for the past 14 years, or so.

[IdaBriggs]

27. Same people in power; new faces/names to the public as front folks. nt

[BeHereNow]

34. Yup...

That is absolutely the case.
Any one who thinks otherwise is delusional.

BHN

[David Zephyr]

30. They will leave and it will take a fumigator to clean out the White House.

Hopefully, someone lure Bush and Cheney with "speaking tours" to freepers where they can make money which is the only thing they think about...well, other than murdering women, men, children and wildlife.

You need to slip into Gordon Biercsh and have a nice, lovely and cold tall draft beer. We don't have that in Clarmeont.

[jaysunb]

35. let's go !

just say when. :hi:

[lovuian]

32. Cheney has no intention on leaving

NWO is coming

I think we will have a civil war it will get so bad if they stay

[BeHereNow]

33. "other"

The "powers that be" will position the next
puppet.
Make no mistake.
Witness the corporate media pushed "sElections."
BHN

[ellisonz]

36. Will go quietly.

[jaysunb]

38. And, what will YOU do if they don't ?

:hi:

[ellisonz]

44. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

I don't stand for no King George be it the III or Jr.:sarcasm:

:hi:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

39. Barring another calculated major

"terrorist" event, they will leave... 50:50? chance

[Dave From Canada]

40. 34% voted will 'not relinqish power'? I had no idea Bush had you guys so screwed up. Take off the

tinfoil. They'll both be gone in 2009. They'll get on a helicopter, wave to their stupid supporters, and the press, Bush will be off to Crawford, and Cheney will be off to the Death Star.

[bdamomma]

41. will cheney's mechanical heart need an update by then.

[SDuderstadt]

42. I posted this once before....apparently it bears reposting

If you read the WHOLE quote....


Just to start with, I doubt if anyone despises George Bush more than I do. And, yes, it is unsettling that he would joke about something like this, even in the slightest. But, as usual, people are being misserved by someone clipping the quote and leaving out important information. This is what Bush actually said:



As for Putin’s plans to remain as prime minister:

"I've been planning that myself,'' Bush joked.


“I have no idea what he’s going to do,’’ Bush said in a more serious vein. “I asked him when I saw him in Australia… I tried to get it out of him. He was wily. He wouldn’t tip his hand… I’ll tip mine. I’m going to work hard to the finish. I’m going to sprint to the finish line, and then you’ll find me in Crawford.’’


As you can see, he actually followed up with his plans to finish and then retire (God, let's hope so) in Crawford.


Moral of the story: Always look for the original source of a quote yourself and make sure you get the WHOLE quote, not just what someone wants you to hear. Clipping quotes so that they seem to mean something else is sloppy and intellectually dishonest. Unfortunately, you see it done all the time by RWers and the GOP and, even more unfortunately, some people supposedly on OUR side (MIHOPER's come to mind).

[jaysunb]

43. I agree...and

I hope that every member that voted or commented will recognize the full extent of that particular quote CORRECTLY, taken out of context. But those kind of "mis-statements" have been stock in trade for this man. I'm of the fool me once school....

[mvccd1000]

45. Is this even a serious question? C'mon people....... nt

[usaftmo]

48. I think they'll "volunteer" to stay in office until

the war on terra is finished. Kind of gives a new level to the saying milking the cow don't you think?
:eyes:

[jaysunb]

50. Sounds about right to me...

BTW, I'm originally from Meridian. :hi:

[usaftmo]

52. Haven't been to Meridian.

Currently stationed in Biloxi. This is my first time in the deep south, and still trying to adjust to so many right-wingers down here.

[mnhtnbb]

49. They'll go. Maintain the illusion of democracy. Election will be fixed

like 2000 and 2004.

[Rhythm and Blue]

51. Nice to see that sanity is winning, though only by a slight margin. nt

[NNN0LHI]

53. They will when they feel the pitchforks on their ass n/t

[jaysunb]

55. Oh the imagery of that !

:rofl:

[Vinca]

54. Considering all the money they've probably made over war profiteering,

they're no doubt looking forward to buying their own country somewhere.