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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:23 PM
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Can I tell my Son he goes to war because "Money Trumps Peace"?
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 12:35 PM by dogday
Since the President today enlightened us that sometimes "Money Trumps Peace", we now know why we went to war in Iraq... This is the mantra we have fought this war on.. The fact that money is being made on this war and the President just spits it out like it is nothing....

Time to yell this from the highest mountain


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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:24 PM
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1. Oil trumps blood
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:25 PM
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3. True, Bush might as well of said that in as
much as he admitted that Money trumps Peace.... Who knows we might hear him say it one day... He said the other thing today....
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:25 PM
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2. beat it into the ground.
I want everyone who voted for the war to have to answer to this claim.
Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL), now we get this...
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:28 PM
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4. The message needs to be repeated by
everyone all the time... America needs to know that Money trumps Peace according to the buffoon in the WH.....
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:30 PM
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5. Can we finally get this shitbag to the Hague?
If that isn't an admission to an illegal imperial war of aggression, I don't know what is. :grr:
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:33 PM
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6. Yes, please
Not sure if anyone has been paying attention, but America wouldn't exist if this wasn't the case. It's about time it was said. It always has been the case, it is the case, and will always be the case. Hell, there is no peace anywhere without money. Ta da.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:33 PM
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7. Out of context
While that 'Money Trumps Peace' is a great out-of-context sound bite, lets be fair. Bush was
responding to a question of basically how can we apply diplomatic pressure such as sanctions against Iran if many
of our European Allies have financial interests and trade deals with Iran. His response was that our European Allies
are putting money ahead of peace because they object to sanctions with teeth.

It does make for a good sound bite and I'm sure it will get lots of play.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:39 PM
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8. I would be fair with Bush, if he had been fair with me
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 12:49 PM by dogday
and my Son, and all those soldiers who die so that he and his buddies can get rich... Sound bite or not, he believes it, and it is that kind of mentality that pushes him toward war, war, war.....

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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 02:21 PM
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14. Fairness?
I was talking about fairness to the truth, not to Bush. Facts are facts. He said what he said.

There are so many other things to criticize Bush for, do we really need to take things out of context and make them up?
Leave those distortions to Faux News.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 02:23 PM
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15. The truth is, that is his mentality, that is how he thinks..
Money Trumps Peace... Regardless how he spoke these words, he did, and that is his way of thinking....

I find it very surprising you would take up for the liar and thief on this board... Makes me go hmmmmmmm....:shrug:
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 02:34 PM
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16. I find it interesting too
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 03:19 PM by kirby
"I find it very surprising you would take up for the liar and thief on this board"

Yeah, I find it interesting too, considering my disdain for the idiot. But like I said, I'm not defending his actions or thoughts,
just stating the facts of what he said. 'Money Trumps Peace' is he kind of headline I would expect to see on Faux News at the bottom of the screen
if a Democratic President had said it.

What I really wish is that when the reporter asked Bush whether he was using faulty intelligence for justify actions against Iran and Bush responded that 'We know its true', the reporter should have followed up asking 'Do we know with the same certainty as we knew Saddam had WMD? How can you expect the American people to believe you?
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chrisbur Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:02 AM
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27. We need to be careful with our low post counts.
But I agree with you completely. This "out of context" Bush quoting drives me nuts. He's bad enough without making stuff up. This type of intellectual dishonesty only undermines us. He said plenty of psychotic shit without this distraction.

When people take the time to read more thoroughly the "out of context" dishonesty is plain to see and the false meme of the left and the right being equally untrustworthy is reinforced. They then promptly stick their heads back in the sand.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:07 AM
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28. I have never heard the words Money Trumps Peace
I mean I have heard about the unholy amount of profits for companies doing business in Iraq... The sickening amount of oil. The missing money.... That the Iraq war was all about profits....

I heard his full statement, the problem was he said it, that is his mentality about this war in Iraq... You can say it is out of context, which was also heard at his press conference, but this is his mentality and the Iraq war is the example....

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:11 PM
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10. "Let's be FAIR??" To that piece of sh*t???
FUCK BUSH!!!!!!

:crazy: Ok Rove...crawl back under your rock!!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:30 PM
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12. I agree 100% with this statement.....
:thumbsup:
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:39 PM
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13. Sorry Kirby
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 01:40 PM by maxrandb
but the Reich-wing has created an entire cottage industry and had the market cornered on "out of context" quotes used to beat the shit out of decent and honorable Democrats for quite some time now. Dems aren't backing down anymore. Screw that "out of context" crap. It didn't work for Kerry, and it won't work for the pretzledent.

In the famous words of Antonin Scalia..."Get over it".
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 02:40 PM
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18. When taken in the context of hypocrisy..
no need to play fair here. He is the last person in the world to be accusing others of putting money before peace.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 02:54 PM
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19. I agree
"He is the last person in the world to be accusing others of putting money before peace."

Now that I agree with 100%. Personally, pointing out the hyprocrisy of all the things this administration has done
where economic benefit is the #1 issue would have energized me.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 02:56 PM
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20. Welcome to DU, kirby :) n/t
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:11 PM
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21. Transcript excerpt
For the record, here is the transcript excerpt:

Q A lot of our allies in Europe do a lot of business with Iran, so I wonder what your thoughts are about how you further tighten the financial pressure on Iran, in particular, if it also means economic pain for a lot of our allies?

THE PRESIDENT: It's an interesting question. One of the problems -- not specifically on this issue, just in general -- let's put it this way, money trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince them that it's in the world's interest that they forgo their own financial interest.

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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:18 PM
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22. I think it's refreshing that Bush is telling the truth for once
Not just that money trumps peace but that it's hard to convince people that sometimes it's in the world's best interest that they forgo their own financial interest, which is also true.

Unfortunately, the expected response from other countries might be "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you." But at least he told the truth for a change.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:04 PM
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9. I started screaming at my tv
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 01:07 PM by Breeze54
when I heard that SON-Of-A-BITCH say that!!!!! :grr: :nuke:
I thought, "there it is, he finally came out and said it!!!!!"

"Money Trumps Peace"
-- George (asshole) Bush 02/14/2007


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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:12 PM
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11. Halliburton Trumps Common Sense!! n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 02:37 PM
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17. Yes, and tell him our President is a sadistic greedy piece of filth..n/t
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:20 PM
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23. Someone needs to put that on a bumper sticker! n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:51 PM
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24. What a great idea!!
Love it!! But how?? :shrug:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:53 PM
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25. Power trumps truth. bush* trumps logic
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:11 PM
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26. The crazy monkey spelled out what the BFEE is all about: MONEY TRUMPS PEACE
I don't know what made me angrier: The fact Gov Bush said that or that NOT A SINGLE REPORTER followed up on what Bush said. I'll forgive Helen Thomas, Tony Blow put her in the back of the room for not getting "with" the program.



Q: A lot of our allies in Europe do a lot of business with Iran. So I wonder what your thoughts are about how you further tighten the financial pressure on Iran, in particular, if it also means economic pain for a lot of our allies.

BUSH: It's an interesting question. One of the problems, not specifically on this issue, just in general, that - let's put it this way: Money trumps peace, sometimes.

In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince them that it's in the world's interest that they forego their own financial interest.

And that's why sometimes it's tough to get tough economic sanctions on countries, and I'm not making any comment about any particular country, but you touched on a very interesting point.

You know - so, therefore, we're constantly working with nations to convince them that what really matters in the long run is to have the environment so peace can flourish.

In the Iranian case, I firmly believe that, if they were to have a weapon, it would make it difficult for peace to flourish, and therefore I am working with people to make sure that that concern trumps whatever commercial interests may be preventing governments from acting.

I make no specific accusation with that statement. It's a broad statement. But it's an accurate assessment of what sometimes can halt multilateral diplomacy from working.

SOURCE...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6416108,00.html



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