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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:24 PM
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USA..USA.......we're #21....we're #21
Well, we got pick-up trucks and trees that look like Jesus ......but oh what will tell the children?


UNICEF: U.S., British children worst off in industrialized world

The United States and Britain ranked at the bottom of a U.N. survey released Wednesday evaluating the well-being of children in wealthy countries.
The Netherlands topped the report issued by UNICEF, followed by other European countries with strong social welfare systems - Sweden, Denmark and Finland.
Among the report’s overall findings was that wealth alone did not guarantee a child’s well-being, with some poorer countries scoring ahead of richer ones. The U.S. and Britain finished 20th and 21st overall, respectively, behind Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary.


http://news.bostonherald.com/international/europe/view.bg?articleid=182956


At least we really care about them before they're born anyway.:sarcasm:

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:28 PM
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1. The way they measure wealth is at fault!
What they need to measure is wealth DISTRIBUTION.

Of course the US is a shitty place for children, it's a shitty place for their parents.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:29 PM
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2. All of those at the top - democratic socialist mixed economies.
How can that be? What about the efficiency of production, isn't that more important than the brats?
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:29 PM
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3. Here is the actual report.n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:38 PM
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7. thanks. and here is the Report title:
A comprehensive assessment of the lives
and well-being of children and adolescents
in the economically advanced nations
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:32 PM
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4. I was unimpressed by their study
because they left out Japan, Korea, Australia and New Zealand.

It was not a survey of the 21 strongest industrialized economies.
It was the study of the 21 strongest industrialized Euro-US-Canadian economies.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:36 PM
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6. That's a good point, rpannier.
Gotta feel for how it would have looked with these 4 nations included?
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:43 PM
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10. Without knowing how those four would rank, we would still at best be # 17
and that's only if all four ranked below the U.S.
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:51 PM
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13. .
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 12:51 PM by Hav
Including the other 4 wouldn't change the fact that 19 other countries were already better than the US regarding the factors of this evaluation. So at best, the US would still be number 20.

Anyway, when I saw that there was such a study, my first thought was that the US would probably not do well so I wasn't surprised. How to fight it? More wars and more tax cuts for the rich, I guess.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:20 PM
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14. If all on the list remained, that would be true.
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 01:45 PM by Gormy Cuss
In a fixed limit of "Top n of something," inclusion of these other countries in the eligible pool could push some countries off the list altogether. In that case, if any of the four newly included countries were rated lower, the U.S. could move up in rank. If the list were expanded instead then yes, we wouldn't move up in the stats.

on edit: I give myself a "D'Oh" for not spelling that out in the original post.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:46 PM
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15. Oh good
now that we got that cleared up.......for all our wealth and Christian values we SUCK taking care of children.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:58 PM
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20. That would it. We aren't leading the way by any measure. n/t.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:38 PM
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8. OK then....we're #25..........we're#25!!!!
Anything for the children
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:40 PM
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9. You may be right on this one.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:43 PM
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12. "in rich countries," :


This publication is the seventh in a series of Innocenti Report
Cards, designed to monitor and compare the performance of
the OECD countries in securing the rights of their children.
Any part of the Innocenti Report Card may be freely
reproduced using the following reference:
UNICEF, Child poverty in perspective:
An overview of child well-being in rich countries,
Innocenti Report Card 7, 2007
UNICEF Innocenti Research Centre, Florence.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:33 PM
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5. The U.S. was last for health and safety, measured by


The U.S. was last for health and safety, measured by rates of infant mortality, low birth weight, immunization, and deaths from accidents and injuries.
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cain_7777 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:43 PM
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11. Hopefully by the time I have children I will have the means to leave this country.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:49 PM
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16. #20, not #21
Note word order (not that tricky)
The U.S. and Britain finished 20th and 21st overall, respectively...
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:51 PM
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18. Whew....thanks
now that's a lot better.


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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:53 PM
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19. Not really, but your original post was still wrong.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:51 PM
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17. I think we are down there in infant mortality rate too alongside
third world countries because our health care system, or lack of it for those who can't afford it, is so shabby.
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