I don't think there are ANY Gore haters on DU

[cali]

but I think there are people who are frustrated with the frenzy about getting Gore to run. I'm one of those people, though I've been staying off the dozens of threads declaring he will run, or he must run, etc., etc.

But Gore haters? I bet there's not a person posting here who doesn't admire the heck out of him. And who wants anything but the best for Al Gore, whatever that might be.

So perhaps those of you who are convinced that he will run, could grant that to be true.

Just because some of us don't think he's running doesn't mean we hate him.

[Dinah Steeler]

1. I agree..

I like Gore, but I've come to accept the fact that he isn't running. My only regret is that I didn't vote for him in 2000 -- I was stupid, young, and conservative and voted for the idiot in the White House right now. If I had to do it over again, I would vote for Gore in a heartbeat.

[cali]

3. Hey, welcome to DU

Dinah. Glad you've changed the way you see things.

[ninkasi]

4. I think you're right.

I would love for him to run, and become presidedent. Regardless of his decision, I respect and admire him.

[bigwillq]

5. Hi!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Kahuna]

38. Don't feel too bad Dinah. The media did a real number on Gore..

The media wanted bush and ran an active PR campaign for bush. I put the real blame for bush on the media. They can never run away from their crimes against America no matter how hard they try.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[terrya]

2. Thank you

I have the utmost respect for Al Gore. I think he's courageous, I think he has an extremely important message that needs to be heard and acted on. I think he's a decent, honorable man. I will, if he announces his intention to run, support him as much as I can. But...I don't think he will run. I take him at his word when he says he has no plans. And I will respect his decision. That does not, under any circumstances, translates into any sort of hatred.

Thanks for your post.

[Yael]

6. Adding a rec, Cali

Well stated. Thanks.

[Breeze54]

7. Well said, Cali.

It's bizarre to me that people who disagree are called "haters".

That's a new one on me. :crazy:

Thanks for saying that. ;)

:kick: & Recommended #4

[JackORoses]

19. the haters are those who are actively trying to diminish a Gore candidacy,

not the people who want to vote for someone else

but the people who repeatedly post threads aimed at convincing others Gore is not running or has said that he will not do so.

there is a difference

[Harper_is_Bush]

23. Ah. Thought you said it was just "an example of humor" (see post 21).

Guess you actually are calling people here Al Gore "haters". No joke.

[Breeze54]

30. I don't hate Gore but I also doubt he'll be running.

Where does that put me?

Gore was our best choice THEN but times have changed and was he so liberal back then? :shrug:

[cali]

41. Have fun with that boogyman

you've created.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

8. He got screwed by the SCOTUS, with the world watching, and went on to win the Nobel Prize.

I know people who get a hangnail and give up on life.

There are lessons to be learned from Al Gore and the way he's handled himself since 2000. Remember the story below? That kind of behavior separates those who are "presidential" from those who are NOT. Al Gore is presidential. He knows it, we know it, and it may never come to pass, but it won't stop it from being reality.

Friday, September 9, 2005

Al Gore airlifts Katrina victims out of New Orleans

By Duncan Mansfield / Associated Press

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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Al Gore helped airlift some 270 Katrina evacuees on two private charters from New Orleans, acting at the urging of a doctor who saved the life of the former vice president's son.

Gore criticized the Bush administration's slow response to Katrina in a speech Friday in San Francisco, but refused to be interviewed about the mercy missions he financed and flew on Sept. 3 and 4.

However, Dr. Anderson Spickard, who is Gore's personal physician and accompanied him on the flights, said: "Gore told me he wanted to do this because like all of us he wanted to seize the opportunity to do what one guy can do, given the assets that he has."

An account of the flights was posted this week on a Democratic Party Web page. It was written by Greg Simon, president of the Washington-based activist group FasterCures. Simon, who helped put together the mission, also declined an interview.

On Sept. 1, three days after Katrina slamed into the Gulf Coast, Simon learned that Dr. David Kline, a neurosurgeon who operated on Gore's son, Albert, after a life-threatening auto accident in 1989, was trying to get in touch with Gore. Kline was stranded with patients at Charity Hospital in New Orleans.

"The situation was dire and becoming worse by the minute -- food and water running out, no power, 4 feet of water surrounding the hospital and ... corpses outside," Simon wrote.

Gore responded immediately, telephoning Kline and agreeing to underwrite the $50,000 each for the two flights, although Larry Flax, founder of California Pizza Kitchens, later pledged to pay for one of them.

"None of the airlines involved required a contract or any written guarantee of payment before sending their planes and volunteer crews," Simon wrote of the American Airlines flights. "One official said if Gore promised to pay, that was good enough for them."

He also recruited two doctors, Spickard and Gore's cousin, retired Col. Dar LaFon, a specialist in internal medicine who once ran the military hospital in Baghdad.

Most critically, Gore worked to cut through government red tape, personally calling Gov. Phil Bredesen to get Tennessee's support and U.S. Transportation Secretary Norm Mineta to secure landing rights in New Orleans.

About 140 people, many of them sick, landed in Knoxville on Sept. 3. The second flight, with 130 evacuees, landed the next day in Chattanooga.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/nation/0509/09/nat4-309467.htm

:patriot:

[Mojambo]

9. I don't think there are many Gore haters period.

Excluding the freeper fringe of course.

I've got a right-wing Christian friend (Yeah... I know) and you know what guy he really wants to run? Al Gore.

And he currently supports Huckabee! That should tell people what kind of crossover appeal Al Gore is generating right now.

I hope he runs. I doubt he will, but I can't stop hoping.

[Kahuna]

39. A co-worker who is a hard core repuke party worker, who used to

spew right wing talking points against Gore, told me the other day that Gore would be the best possible candidate to run, bare none on either side. Then he said that Gore wouldn't run because he doesn't want to deal with the "abuse." Sad but true.

:cry:

[Fridays Child]

10. Something everyone here agrees on? Get out.

I don't believe it.

[Harper_is_Bush]

11. Amen and seconded. I think candidate supporters (even non-candidates) have gotten crazy

A certain segment of the DU population has become very hostile and accusatory.

The behavior is often irrational, and the "to all the Al Gore haters" thread is an example of that.

[JackORoses]

21. firstly, it is an example of humor aimed at the "Gore Supporters Move On" thread

secondly, it is a valid rebuke of the activities of a minority who actively attempt to quash a Gore candidacy

I agree, almost nobody hates Al Gore,

but some strongly fear a Gore Candidacy and what it means.

[Harper_is_Bush]

22. Firstly, secondly, and thirdly: BULLSHIT.

It was a straight-faced accusation that there are "Gore haters" on DU.

This topic gives you a well-deserved slap.

[JackORoses]

34. There are Gore Haters on DU

and there are Gore Supporter Haters

and then there are just Assholes

Maybe you fit into all 3 categories.

Well-deservedly

[Harper_is_Bush]

42. Oh, I'm an asshole? You're nothing but an insulting twerp seeking to create animosity at DU

why would you do that?

"Gore Haters". What a fucking joke that is, and you are.

[Harper_is_Bush]

12. Oh yeah, RECOMMENDED!!! N/T

[SlowDownFast]

26. WITH CAPITAL LETTERS, NO DOUBT!!!

:eyes:

[bonito]

13. I agree, I think Gore could make things nice

Not to everybody, and their issues must be addressed, but I see him as a way out of this mess.

[Triana]

14. I've never thought Gore would run again and I've told people that here many times...

...but I love Gore and if he did run, he'd certainly have my vote!

He's doing VERY important work though, whether he's a private citizen or President. I'm just glad he's on the planet with us, trying to save it, and by extension - us. No one else is qualified for that function except Gore. This has been his passion for YEARS. I've talked to people who've worked with him and they said they couldn't believe he was a politician -- because his interest in the Earth and the planet and the atmosphere/biosphere was always so intense. NO OTHER politicians have such a deep interest in it. And that is serving Gore, the planet, and all of us, very well. He has put his passion to good use for all of humanity and THAT is certainly deserving of a Nobel prize.

I've referred to him as President of the Planet. And so he is.

EDIT: Note how bu$hit mocked Gore over this, calling him "ozone man" and other stupid names - because Gore was passionate about the environment and about saving the planet from human destruction. This is what narcissists/sociopaths do. If they see anyone who is well though of, good at something, passionate about something, expert at something - they have to insult it/them - to make themselves feel better. A narcissist/sociopath has to tear the person down so that person is beneath them. It's what SOCIOPATHS do. It's what bu$h did. bu$h is a sociopath/psychopath/narcissist. Their M.O. is always like this. It's a telltale sign.

[Catchawave]

15. Love me some Al, but not as my President....

I need him more to save my Planet :loveya:

[Richard Steele]

16. Cali, I agree completely. recommended

[SeattleGirl]

17. Absolutely, cali

I'm one who really wants him to run, but even more, I want him to do what is best for him. If he's happy with his life right now, and sees no need to run for President again, I'm down with that. It's his life, and those of us who want him to run need to realize that.

[philly_bob]

18. Want Al to run -love him- but he did choose Lieberman for running mate

and distanced himself from Clinton in election.

Both dumb moves, trying to triangulate with "Values Voters," as if VV were not just an advertising slogan used to get ordinary people to vote for neocon and free-market candidates, who don't give an oil-dollar damn about humane values.

The thing with Al Gore is I bet he's thought deeply about -- and learned from -- his mistakes.

Unlike some politicians we know who never admit they make mistakes.

[TreasonousBastard]

20. "Gore haters"??? I missed that thread (fortunately), but...

the mind again boggles at those around here who will pick a fight over the stupidest things.

Think of what could be accomplished if we stopped pointing fingers at each other.

[Harper_is_Bush]

25. Here it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2097658

[TreasonousBastard]

28. Like I needed that. n/t

[Gman]

24. No, there was a thread about NAFTA and Gore the day he won the Nobel

Peace Prize. Talk was about what he did to help get it through.

If someone's a Democrat, someone here will have a reason to hate them.

[Lucinda]

27. I missed that one

but I've seen others over the last few years that, unfortunately, support your point. I think they are just quiet at the moment.

[Bitwit1234]

29. The only group of haters here are HIllary haters and we all know

it's because she is in the lead, and it throwing their candidate farther and farther behind. No body else hates any of the democratic candidates.

[Breeze54]

31. The dumb get dumber and

are willing to show all how dumb they are! Chilling.

[JackORoses]

35. You, sir, are a brilliant orator.

I'll keep my eye out for you.

[Neshanic]

32. I don't think there are Gore haters or Hillary haters.

I am a Gore person. I wish he would run, I hope he would run. If he does not, well fine, I still respect him. I am no fan of Hillary by any means but I do not hate her. I just don't think she is a viable, electable person in the big scheme of things to come that the republicans have in waiting. Since it is a foregone conclusion that she will be our candidate, I will vote for her gladly. I do not think we will win with her.

Let us Gore people have our little fantasies as some portray us here. It can't harm anyone. You know when the time comes we all will vote for Hillary no matter what.

[hisownpetard]

33. Ah'm wichoo. nt

[Quantess]

36. At the very minimum,

everyone here at least thinks Gore is okay. Why would anyone think that some DUers don't like Al Gore? Some Duers idolize him, some love him, some like him, and maybe five think he's just okay.

[Kahuna]

37. There is only one real Gore hater that I have noticed. (he's on ignore)..

He seems to have a bot that detects pro Gore threads and pops in to post demeaning posts about Gore.

[rosesaylavee]

40. I don't think there are...

I know of only two posters who have said disparaging things of Gore... not that they hate him. I can live with that. Overall, my sense is that there is a very deep respect for the man here on DU.

And I understand the great impatience and annoyance on the part of DUers committed to other candidates. I imagine that to many of them, the Gore threads represent a lot of undecided voters that could be supporting their candidates. That's ok. If Gore doesn't run, we will disperse and join other campaigns. We are a fairly mild group overall and I expect we will help tone down some of the other threads.

No matter what he decides to do these next coming weeks, he will always have my respect and admiration.