A tad arrogant are we, Mayor? "Remember people are more important than property"

[RB TexLa]

Oh, so the mayor of Malibu makes that decision for the people of Malibu. Just flat out says that she makes that decision for you, another one who thinks she is "the decider."

[regnaD kciN]

1. So you think property is more important...???

:wtf:

[RB TexLa]

2. I think people can make that decision for themselves

[mudesi]

4. Well then you'd be wrong

Because there is no decision about that statement.

People are more important than property. That's just a fact.

[RB TexLa]

7. And they have to decide the way you do? Maybe to you it is.

But not necessary to everyone, and I am not wrong, everyone does decide that for themselves. You do understand that you don't decide that for anyone but yourself, right?

[cuke]

8. When it involves public safety, then "Yes"

[stlsaxman]

10. When there's --- okay i'll just shut up now.

self delete. this is something i know nothing about.

[Cooley Hurd]

3. ...but the good news is Pepperdine U might be burnt to the ground...

:sarcasm:<-kinda..;)

[lligrd]

5. I'm Still Trying To Figure Out How I Feel About The Castle

being burnt to the ground.

[Baby Snooks]

11. Save the Castle!

I like it. It's like this odd landmark. Doesn't belong there. But then, really, quite a few of the residents don't belong there either. Or their attitude. Maybe the mayor could offer Ken Starr as a sacrifice to the fire gods? Toss in a couple of the Hollywooders as well.

[lligrd]

13. ROFL At "A Few Of The Residents Don't Belong There Either"

So true about the castle, it really didn't belong but that was part of its charm.

[Baby Snooks]

14. And it's gone?

I didn't realize it was already gone - I think it was for sale recently. Hope no one bought it yesterday!

The mayor can still offer Ken Starr as a sacrifice. Along with some of the Hollywooders.

[lligrd]

16. It Was For Sale For 17 Million

I don't think it ever sold.

http://guests.themls.com/profile_page.cfm?mls=07-151997

Malibu

MALIBU LANDMARK PROPERTY FOR ONLY THE TRULY UNIQUE! ENTERTAINER'S PARADISE WITH VIEWS FROM EVERY DIRECTION- "THE CASTLE" SITS ON A KNOLL ADJACENT TO SERRA RETREAT OVERLOOKING MALIBU COLONY & SURFER'S POINT. SPECTACULAR IN EVERY WAY!!!

[Mutineer]

26. Hey--it contained a large amount of precious Elvis memorabilla!

How can you want to see Elvis memorabilla destroyed?

[Trillo]

6. What did the mayor say?

Malibu city advisor in hot water

A city advisor's ethics are being questioned after it was discovered he was paid by a homeowners association's attorney to review the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy's parks enhancement plan just days after he submitted comments to the city on the project. City leaders on Tuesday evening were still looking into the legal ramifications of the incident.

Steve Amerikaner, an attorney for Ramirez Canyon homeowners who oppose the SMMC's project for a variety of reasons including its call for overnight camping in the area, admitted Tuesday to having hired Shane Parker, a member of Malibu's Environmental Review Board. But he said there was nothing wrong with that because the hiring came in early August, at least a week after Parker had submitted comments to the city as a member of the ERB.
-snip-
"You can't have people review a project, and then go be hired by somebody whose interested in it, any more than Amerikaner can hire me after I vote on the project," Jennings said.
-snip-
http://www.malibutimes.com/articles/2007/10/03/news/news1.txt

Great, I always knew that homeowner's associations were another ultra-local branch of government piled onto residents within their community, but I didn't know they had political influence beyond their communal border.

What's the OP in regards to? Do you mean something else other than corrupt politics of the wealthy dominating the rest of us?

[Richard D]

9. She was saying that in regards to . .

. . . not waiting to evacuate till it's too late and not to try to stick around through a wildfire to try to save your property. Seemed quite a reasonable thing to say to me, especially considering the ferocity of chaparral and Santa Ana wind fed fires.

[RB TexLa]

17. That's fine if she decides that for herself, but others decide it for themselves

[Marrah_G]

12. Okay, where the heck am I?

:scared:

[mark414]

15. so you're okay with things like this happening?

The four firefighters killed were part of a Forest Service crew trying to protect a house as dry desert winds of 25 mph or more blew a wall of flames down on them in the hills northwest of Palm Springs.

"They had left their truck to do structure protection when the fire overran them," said Forest Service spokesman Pat Boss, adding the flames came down so quickly they had no time to retreat to their engine truck or use protective sheltering.

"In attempting to save residents' homes and lives, they sacrificed their own," he said. "Our hearts go out to their families during this difficult time."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/26/california.wildfire/index.html

[RB TexLa]

18. Government officials do make those decisions. The ones regarding risk of emergency workers, but she

doesn't make the decision for me as to if I value my life more than my property or other lives, I make that decision. She is not "the decider" on that one.

[mark414]

25. that's why people elect mayors. to decide those issues.

what kind of elected official would go out there and make the statement "we value property more than people."

are you kidding me?

if you don't want your house to burn up in a wildfire, then don't build your house in a place with constant wildfires.

[RB TexLa]

27. You honestly think your mayor should decide how much you value your life?

You think you should not make that decision?

[mark414]

28. um, no, the mayor shouldn't decide that

anyways, it's pretty hard to debate something that i didn't see and you haven't provided any context for


and according to your profile, you're far far away from malibu...so uh, what's your deal?

[gatorboy]

19. I can't tell if this post is for real or a gag.

[RB TexLa]

20. You think someone believing people can determine for themselves how much they value their life

is a gag? You don't think people should be allowed to make that determination for themselves?

[gatorboy]

21. Do you have a link to the rest of the story?

Just to put your argument in context.

[RB TexLa]

24. no, it was a live press conference

she was talking about people evacuating and let them know she had decided where they value their lives for them.

[Ellen Forradalom]

22. As someone in charge of public resources

she does have a hand in deciding how those resources will be used; she stated her principles upon which she weights the choices. You are free to have a different opinion, but when it comes to public resources...she's the decider.

[RB TexLa]

23. Yes, but she was saying it in regards to people leaving their homes for shelters

Of course she makes the decisions regarding government workers. But an individual makes that decision themselves. I'm really shocked at how many on DU are saying "You can not decide for yourself how much you value your life."