Since we're talking about "cackling," I'M bringing up MY pet peeve again - "douchebag"

[undeterred]

If we have a female president, and it looks like we will, this word is just not acceptable, on DU or anywhere else. I think we need a constitutional amendement. :hide:

[CTyankee]

1. Make it "enema bag" and you make it unisex!

I find douchebag mildly sexist because it ONLY applies to female anatomy, thereby implying bad things about women's sex organs.

If we are really serious about this, we should use "enema bag."

[undeterred]

3. I never see people posting congressman so and so is a real enema bag

but I see that they're a real "douchebag" every day, and seriously, I HATE it. We've had this conversation around here several times, but not much changes.

[CTyankee]

11. well, i don't take it too seriously, but i do try to get people to think about why they use it.

i think they are usually male, but i don't know for sure...

[Vanje]

21. Me

Not a male

[Quantess]

38. I've also been known to use the term, on rare occasion,

and I'm a woman. It just sounds funny to call a stupid jerk "a douche". "A douchebag" would be someone even more sleazy and despicable than a douche.
It's a little immature, perhaps, but not insulting to women at all, IMO.

I could more easily see the term "jerk" as sexist toward men.

People really get offended?

[Catherine Vincent]

53. I normally hear "shitbag". n/t

[Vanje]

7. The words' attraction is the sound of it

and the rich way it feels sloshing around the palette when one speaks it :
DOOOOSCH

Meaning of the thing be damned.

"Enema" just dosnt do it.

[CTyankee]

10. Maybe you should just think about why you like the sound of one and not the other.

What is the first image in your mind when you hear that sloshing "douche" word?

Think about it.

[Vanje]

13. I dont get what you're hinting at.

???

[undeterred]

15. Flushing?

:hurts:

[CTyankee]

17. Well, flushing is certainly unisex! n/t

[CTyankee]

16. Not hinting. Just wanting to know.

Also, do you have an opinion as to why the term is douchebag and not something unisex? I'm not flaming, just conversing. I'd really like to know...

[Vanje]

18. Cuz, like I said,

Its a nifty gusher of a word. Fun to say. Fun to hear.

[roody]

52. Because a douchebag is for cleaning out your vagina.

Unless I am mistaken.

[rucky]

29. As a person who suffers from chronic constipation...

I take offense to your suggestion and think you should leave the party.

[undeterred]

36. I'm taking my enema bag and shitting the road.

:hi:

[Manifestor_of_Light]

44. A member of the Red Bag and Hose Society!!

Not related to the Red Hat Society or the Red Cross.

[undeterred]

46. Red Hat Society= Linux?

:shrug:

[MurrayDelph]

66. No, different Red Hat Society

from Wikipedia:

The Society takes its name from the opening lines of the poem "Warning" by Jenny Joseph, which starts:
"When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
With a red hat that doesn't go and doesn't suit me."

So, think of it as the old lady version of Goths: they all wear this uniform to show their non-conformity.

[roody]

51. So an enema bag is a wonderful thing as well as a

douchebag. They both relieve internal problems.

[CTyankee]

56. Man, do I feel your pain! I knowyour post was jesting but I do want to say

that having had 4 abdominal surgeries in the past 6 months, had a temporary colostomy which has now been reversed, and having lost lots of my small intestine and part of my colon, that your situation has my sympathy. I hope you didn't or don't have to go the route of surgery cuz it is so painful and difficult to get through.

I'm getting better now and I'm all put back together again, yay!
Do you have a diagnosis of what causes your affliction? Mine was originally severe diverticulitis and then adhesion complications requiring further surgery, then abdominal abscesses. 2 months in the hospital and rehab.

So I am now aware that my suggestion is hurtful to you. I'm so sorry. I don't wish that on anyone...

[rucky]

59. That bites! Now I feel really shitty.

Which I suppose is a good thing, under the circumstances.

[CTyankee]

64. Please don't feel bad!

It was just bad luck on my part. I had been hoping to remedy a bad situation but it backfired. Stuff happens...

[JVS]

61. Well if there were a bag for cleaning penises, then it would be an insult to

[Lilith Velkor]

69. The slang term for condom is scumbag

:think:

[Lilith Velkor]

63. I didn't know my sex organs included a douchebag

I just checked, and mine seems to be missing. Should I consult a doctor?

[CTyankee]

67. You know, I always wondered about that myself!

As a matter of fact, douchebags aren't very good for women. Vaginas don't need the "assist" in keeping clean and the chemicals used in them can cause problems, according to docs I know.

People should get a little more up to date in their medical information. The douchebag I think went out with hula hoops.

[DS1]

2. Nice post, Douchler

[undeterred]

5. ...

:rant: :grr:

[roody]

4. A douchebag is a wonderful thing,

if you are suffering from an internal itch. I love douchebags.

[calimary]

35. So does laura bush.

After all, she did marry one.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

6. Nice post Hitler

[lateo]

8. Please

Douchebag is acceptable in our lexicon of words. Anyone who thinks it isn't is a douchebag.

[undeterred]

9. no, they're HITLER!!

:rofl:

[NV Whino]

12. Does that mean we can't use dickwad either?

:(

[undeterred]

14. I have no problem with it.

:shrug: not my gender :shrug:

[Froward69]

22. ok

1) Dick Wad-hams is our state repuke Chair. (go ahead and shorten it as we do.)He realized this too lateand is now wanting to be called Richard. (after all the letterheads have been printed.)
2) gender spacific insults are only wrong when they are female? I Disagree.
insults are insults any way they are thrown. classifying them by gender is simply narrow minded. I do advocate insults when nessary. like Boxer-waste somehow does not work. however Panty-waste seems to have the proper zing.:hurts:

[Quantess]

60. I always thought it was spelled "panty waist"

As in, panties up to the waist. :shrug:

[Froward69]

75. I all was thought of it as

soil in the underware. refering to the other as that substance(s). or of that caliber.

[Quantess]

80. According to UrbanDictionary.com, we're both right.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=panty+waist

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=panty+waste

[Vanje]

20. What!?

Would that mean we could no longer call someone,"scrotum-wattles" ?

[undeterred]

25. That would be up to the executive committee.

:beer:

[graywarrior]

19. We need DUchebag caps.

[Quantess]

23. Aaww. We can't call people a douche? Not even this guy?

:D

[undeterred]

26. He's a freak...

:freak: :freak: :freak:

[roody]

54. He is obviously a POOP, not a douche.

[Somawas]

24. Douchebag is totally appropriate and useful as a term.

Because douchebags themselves are pretty useless.

[sniffa]

27. but vaginas are dirty

and need to be douched (french for showered). however, there's at Least one DUer who greatLy agrees with you.

:rofl:

[SPKrazy]

28. nice thread doucheheimer

:spray:


:spank:

[undeterred]

34. Get back in the LOUNGE!

[peekaloo]

30. No way. I want my commemorative bottle of

[Ellen Forradalom]

31. The Enema of My Enemy Is My Friend!

[undeterred]

37. Would you want to be friends with this man's enema?

[mondo joe]

32. Is it only unacceptable if we have a female president?

[undeterred]

39. No, its just worse when there's more women trying to gain respect.

Really. I work in an all male environment and I don't mind all the swearing and stuff, but it drives me nuts when the men the men I work with call someone a douchebag. A "bitch" is fine, because I could say that too, but "douchebag" puts down all women as far as I am concerned.

[roody]

55. You could reply, "No I don't think that he would

relieve an itchy vagina."

[Blashyrkh]

79. How can bitch be cool, but not douchebag? This has to be a joke.

[scarletwoman]

33. Well, sometime back on a certain blog, "cobag" was offered as a non-sexist alternative.

"Cobag" being a contraction of "colostomy bag" -- i.e. a bag of shit -- which does certainly have some merit as a non-gender specific insult.

However, due to the fact that it references a device which is only utilized in the context of a severe medical condition, it never really caught on.

I really, truly, seriously object to "douchebag" as an insult, since it carries such a gender specific connotation. Surely there are plenty of other creative ways to express disapprobiation; such as "scumbucket" or "slimebag"...

sw

[undeterred]

40. People with Crohns and Ulcerative Colitis who have to wear a bag

for part of their recovery from surgery probably don't appreciate the stigma being made any worse.

[scarletwoman]

47. Which is why it was ultimately considered to NOT be an acceptable alternative.

I hate the term "douchebag", so I appreciated the attempt at finding a suitable substitute, even though the proposed alternative was rightfully rejected for the very reasons you brought up.

sw

[undeterred]

48. It may need to be Cheney specific...Cheney-bag.

Cheney-bag. I could get used to it.

[scarletwoman]

49. Good one! I could definitely go for that! Has a nice ring to it. (nt)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

41. It doesn't look like we are to have a female president...

where are you getting this privileged information?

[undeterred]

43. I was brainwashed by the mass media.

:hi:

[NuttyFluffers]

42. go Fresca yourself! you are an enslaver of innocent lexicons!

:*

[undeterred]

45. Thou blunt monster with uncounted heads~!

Your face is as a book, where men may read strange matters.


Shakespearean Insulter
http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html?

[Buns_of_Fire]

58. Yeah, thou shag-eared villain!

(Hey, as long as we're going to get Shakespearean on yo' ass... ;-) )

[undeterred]

71. We just don't make insults like they used to!

I did a search in the Shakespeare lexicon for douchebag and couldn't find it. :shrug:

[jakefrep]

50. Nice post, Doucheolini!

:spank:

[Buns_of_Fire]

57. The problem is that the word "douche" is... FRENCH!

But calling someone a "freedombag" just don't have that zing, y'know?

[MilesColtrane]

62. For those offended by "douchebag", I offer the handy replacement...

..."shitheel" .

I, for one, will continue to call a douchebag, a douchebag, and a cocknose, a cocknose regardless of their gender.

The whole point of cursing is to offend and vent strong emotions. Sometimes innocent bystanders take collateral damage.

[madinmaryland]

65. Something like this...

Can I post this?



:hide:

[dkofos]

68. How will I be able to talk about Novak if I can't use the term DOUCHEBAG!!

[undeterred]

70. You may appeal to the executive committee for the special dispensation

of an exception, which in this case I can promise you, will be granted. Robert Novak is a DOUCHEBAG! Someone gave me one of his books as a Christmas gift once. I was horrified.

[Coexist]

72. Lord and Lady Doucebag!

[Patsy Stone]

81. Douchebag, how are you?

I haven't seen you in the House of Lords in ages! Don't tell me for the first time in memory we are going to have a House of Parliament without a Douchebag?

Lord Doucebag: My dear Sandwich, Parliament has always had its share of Douchebags, and it always will.

[Midlodemocrat]

73. Holy Good God. Do we need to hijack this thread?

matcom and my posse are just waiting for the word.


Twas a thing of great beauty, the douchebag hijacking. *sniff*

[Dukkha]

74. as long as we have an epidemic of douchbaggery

it will be used necessary, be it a blowhard pundit, a tasered grandstanding protester, or a tin-foil nut job at a Bill Mahr taping.

[Throd]

76. Can I say "Undie Turd" instead?

[In_The_Wind]

77. That word will be moved into the TMI file.

[Blashyrkh]

78. I find it unacceptable to be lecture to as to what words I can and cannot use.