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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:07 PM
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Oh cry me a freakin' river, Clarence! His pity party is REALLY getting old! Justice Thomas...
:cry::cry::cry:

:nopity::nopity::nopity:

Sheesh. This man is pathetic.

Justice Says Law Degree 'Worth 15 Cents'

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas testifies before the House Appropriati...
By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN, AP
3 hours ago

NEW HAVEN, Conn. —

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has a 15-cent price tag stuck to his Yale law degree, blaming the school's affirmative action policies in the 1970s for his difficulty finding a job after he graduated.

Some of his black classmates say Thomas needs to get over his grudge because Yale opened the door to extraordinary opportunities.

Thomas' new autobiography, "My Grandfather's Son," shows how the second black justice on the Supreme Court came to oppose affirmative action after his law school experience. He was one of about 10 blacks in a class of 160 who had arrived at Yale after the unrest of the 1960s, which culminated in a Black Panther Party trial in New Haven that nearly caused a large-scale riot.

The conservative justice says he initially considered his admission to Yale a dream, but soon felt he was there because of his race. He says he loaded up on tough courses to prove he was not inferior to his white classmates but considers the effort futile. He says he was repeatedly turned down in job interviews at law firms after his 1974 graduation.

"I learned the hard way that a law degree from Yale meant one thing for white graduates and another for blacks, no matter how much any one denied it," Thomas writes. "I'd graduated from one of America's top law schools, but racial preference had robbed my achievement of its true value."<snip>

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/national/2007/10/21/Yale.Justice.Thomas/
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:12 PM
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1. Oh I see....it's something to see Blacks who were the immediate
benefactors of Affirmative Action decry that Affirmative Action prevented them from getting a job. I am guessing that ole Thomas was pretty lazy in his quest for a job always blaming everyone for his troubles except the man looking back at himself in the mirror.

I suppose that Cry Me a River Thomas thinks he could have just walked in off of the streets during that time and would have been accepted into Yale.

This guy is a real piece of work. This guy is a pathetic example to black American and all of America of how great this country can be.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:13 PM
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2. Wow... such warped thinking.


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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:14 PM
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3. Hey Clarence! You suck!
That's the reason you couldn't find a job after graduation! The presidunce has a degree from Yale too, and he wasn't qualified to do much either. He had to cash in on the Bush name to get a job.

:nopity:
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:16 PM
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4. I'm sure the personality as perceived by the interviewer had nothing to do with rejection.....
Most bosses love to hire people who are brimming over with self-pity.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:57 PM
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15. Ding, Ding, Ding
We have a winnah!

How much of his attitude came across the interviewer's desk is a question that will probably never be answered. But what would you bet that he *didn't* have a chip on his shoulder as big as all get-out? This is a man who pouted when he wasn't instantly confirmed by the Senate instead of thanking heaven he squeaked through confirmation. If his confirmation meant so little to him, why didn't he walk away?
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:12 PM
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25. If the "Whoop-de-damn-doo" comment was really his reaction
to being confirmed, as he wrote in his book*, I have to wonder the same thing. I feel like he just blundered into the job and doesn't particularly want to be there. The gravity of the responsibilities just doesn't seem to impinge on him.

I suppose we've had pathetically inadequate justices before, but this is the one we've got now....

*WHY on earth would he bother to ADMIT this???
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:17 PM
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5. I'm Afraid We Better Get Used To It

It's pretty plain that Thomas is going to be a self-pitying grudge bearer until his dying day.

For the record, I still believe that Anita Hill was one of the most convincing witnesses I have ever seen. I have no doubt that what she said about Thomas was the unvarnished truth.....
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:17 PM
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6. Please
but racial preference had robbed my achievement of its true value.

or as Al Gore might say

but POLITICAL preference had robbed my achievement of its true value.

Judge Thomas,

You are wealthy, despite having many people ready to testify against
you for sexual harassment you still got on the US Supreme Court,
you write very few opinions, never ask questions, hold grudges, and helped
the first coup d'état overthrow a legally elected President and now you want
to whine?



Tell this little Iraqi girl.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:41 PM
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12. Not only does he not participate, but
he's got clerks to put together any opinions he does write. Maybe he wouldn't accept a job that didn't make him a partner. I would guess that its pretty hard to not get a job with a Yale law degree.

Now how about the other Black graduates. I would like to hear about their struggles before I accept Thomas' claims.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:46 PM
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13. If he came across as 1/100 of as much of a prick as he comes across now ....
.... the interviewer would have crossed him off the list with in 2 seconds.

In other words .... "I will not hire a problem to my firm." aka "Thanx for
coming in Mr. Thomas, we will keep your application on file.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:09 PM
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24. I'd have to agree. Some people see the glass as half full, but I
think that Justice Thomas sees the glass half empty. What a whiner!
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:38 PM
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29. Yeah. Not to mention this part of the interview:
So, Mr. Thomas, you say here that you are your 'grandfather's son.'
Umm, now I didn't go to Yale, but wouldn't that make you, let's see, your own father?
And then, wouldn't your mother be, uh, your aunt?
Oh, right. An ex-tend-ed al-le-go-ry! Got it.
Wow - I love working in Personnel. I learn somethin' new every day!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:19 PM
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7. Would SOMEONE please tell Clarence Thomas the truth?
That he is a no-talent hack. GO work for Wal-Mart, Clarence.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:19 PM
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8. Cried the Supreme Court Justice...
:eyes::nopity: :nopity: :nopity:
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progpen Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:35 PM
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9. Hey did you hear the one about...
the conservative black judge who traded being pissed at white racial bigots for being pissed at those who fought to make it possible for him to become a Supreme Justice?

Yo, Clarence! You may want to look in the mirror next time you spout off about "flowing sanctimony".

Oh, and dude, are you missing a pubic hair?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:41 PM
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10. Add this to the mix
Thomas complained about white liberals. Wasn't it democrats who marched with Martin King seeking rights for the blacks.

Wasn't it democrats who voted for and gained rights for the blacks.

Wasn't it democrats who made sure that the cases of deaths and civil rights violations were processed.

How come this guy says white liberals was his downfall. He joined the republican party to gain politically not because he thought they were the best. So when he gets results from being handed the job of supreme court judge, because of his race, he complains of all the people - white liberals who helped him get there.

This guy's diploma is not what is not worth 15 cents...HE himself is not worth .02.

This is not a racist post. I admire the black people in this country who faced obstacles and made headway because of it....one the black man in the supreme court before this piece of trash...a man of honor Thurgood Marshall.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:41 PM
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11. could it have something to do
with that "chip on his shoulder" and the angry look on his face. :puke:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:55 PM
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14. His Statements clearly shows its NOT THE DEGREE...its him...he is LACKING/INEPT/and given to POINTIN
Blamin

He is not a MAN...he is a COWARD....hiding behind the PITY ME CARD...typ Pub...go figure...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:07 PM
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16. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with his knowledge level, his lack of talent
at engaging people in interviews, and perhaps his SURLY, chip-on-shoulder demeanor????

As the Affirmative Action boom was sweeping the land, there WAS a pecking order amongst corporations, all vying to get the best "tokens"--and make no mistake, at the outset it was an idiotic token game.

But what he's whining about, it seems, is that he was unable, even with a YALE degree, to compete in the Token Wars. The other tokens, even those who went to STATE schools, were smoking his ass outta the workplace. Perhaps they showed up at their interviews ready to engage, ready to work, and with a positive attitude?

    His view isn't shared by black classmate William Coleman III.

    "I can only say my degree from Yale Law School has been a great boon," said Coleman, now an attorney in Philadelphia. "Had he not gone to a school like Yale, he would not be sitting on the Supreme Court."

    Coleman's Yale roommate, Bill Clinton, appointed him general counsel to the U.S. Army, one of several top jobs Coleman has held over the years.

    Thomas said he began interviewing with law firms at the beginning of his third year of law school.

    "Many asked pointed questions unsubtly suggesting that they doubted I was as smart as my grades indicated," he wrote. "Now I knew what a law degree from Yale was worth when it bore the taint of racial preference."

    He said it was months before he got an offer, from then-Missouri Attorney General John Danforth.

    Steven Duke, a white Yale law professor who taught when Thomas attended Yale, said Thomas is right to say that the significance of someone's degree could be called into question if the person was admitted to an institution on a preferential basis. However, he said that could be overcome by strong performance, noting that two Yale graduates _ Danforth and President Bush _ put Thomas into top jobs.

    "I find it difficult to believe he actually regrets the choice he made," Duke said. "It seems to me he did pretty well."....


Jeez, call the poor thing a whaaambulance!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:15 PM
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17. I am ashamed-the town of my birth-half my(Dem) family
Lives there.How dare you,Clarence.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:17 PM
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18. Thomas' version of The Man keeping the Black man down
and he doesn't even realize it.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:18 PM
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19. He MIGHT have something if the other nine had the same trouble finding a job as he did
But quite frankly, as others have said, I think most of his problem was that he was a HUGE ASSHOLE that would turn off any interviewer.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:26 AM
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31. yes
I doubt his ego can allow him to see that being a self-centered prick does not endear oneself to an interviewer
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:18 PM
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20. That man has major issues. nt
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:22 PM
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21. It's the chicken or egg theory...was he denied work because OF affirmative
action in school OR BECAUSE law firms did not have to hire blacks??? NO MATTER WHAT THEIR QUALIFICAITONS?
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:22 PM
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22. HMMM - would he be a sitting Supreme Court Justice WITHOUT the law degree from Yale?
I don't THINK so.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:22 PM
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23. Clarence Thomas: I shall not rest until Yale University changes the price tag
otherwise I shall return it for a refund.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:26 PM
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26. I'm so glad for Clarabelle Thomas that affirmative action came along - otherwise, on what
could he blame his sullen personality and his lifelong mastery of the mediocre?

It is quite amazing, though, that he's managed to get around so well all these years, laboring
as he does under the weight of that chip that keeps teetering on his shoulder.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:27 PM
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27. According to wiki, he got a job the same year he got his JD.
Lots of people have to apply for lots of jobs before they even get a nibble. What did he want? Preferential treatment for having graduated from Yale?

"He then attended Yale Law School from which he received a Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree in 1974 . . . From 1974 to 1977, Thomas was an Assistant Attorney General of Missouri under then State Attorney General John Danforth."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas#Early_career
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:29 PM
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28. he is so qualified that's why he sits up there silently and does whatever Scalia tells him to
the only time he differed with Scalia was on some porn case.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:08 AM
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30. Thanks for posting this. I was beginning to think I was the only one seeing Thomas as Pathetic.
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