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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:49 AM
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Clinton's Iran vote must be hurting her, because she seems to be wavering
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Clinton_defends_Iran_vote_in_direct_1022.html

Perhaps her support isn't as firm as the media would tend to suggest

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GeminiProgressive Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:53 AM
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1. It should hurt her
it was a terrible vote.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:53 AM
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2. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. "
Enough, already.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:55 AM
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3. Our whorish corporate M$M has never been more arrogant and swaggering ...
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 10:55 AM by ShortnFiery
Face it folks, there's no "quality control" or self-reflection on the CEOs who run the M$M? They are all about the bottom line. Like the fall of the republican right wingers and their fundy cohorts, it's truly their ARROGANCE and lack of awareness toward "the real world" of average Americans that will sink the M$M stranglehold on opinion.

Unless the votes are *Diebolded* you can NOT push-poll an election. :shrug:

BTW anyone who loved to watch the old "Popeye" Cartoons, IMO, envision the M$M as the character "Brutus" and no further description is needed. :P

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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:03 AM
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7. The Bottom Line of the MSM's Parent Companies


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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:57 AM
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4. Well, well
"Let me be clear on Iran," writes the candidate in a direct mail piece obtained by Ben Smith of The Politico. "I am opposed to letting President Bush take any military action against that country without full Congressional approval."

And what's to stop Bush from getting full Congressional approval?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:01 PM
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10. Unfortunately, that vote GAVE him full congressional approval,
by declaring an integral part of the Iranian society "terrorists". It cleared the way for him to do whatever he wants.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:59 AM
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5. How is she wavering?
It's clear and concise, and nothing has changed.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:12 AM
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8. She says she wants a dialog with Iran, then votes for a resolution effectively making conditions
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 11:16 AM by still_one
for that dialog, in addition implying that the U.S. will remain in Iraq indefinitely to prevent Iranian intrusion to its neighboring countries.

It appears that we are the ones that invaded Iraq, NOT Iran.

That is not particularly clear to me





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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:00 AM
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6. Gee 30 points over Obama sure as hell is wavering.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:18 AM
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9. Wavering was referring to what I perceive as her contradictory position
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 11:23 AM by still_one
see my post #8

and if you want to throw poll numbers at me, 50% of likely voters say they will definitely not vote for Hillary. Not particularly pleasant news for her

Incidently, I will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is, so I am not in that 50%

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