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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:00 PM
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Goddammit Al!


If you truly aren't running, YOU NEED TO SAY SO UNEQUIVOCALLY!!!

Listen Al, you're my greatest hope, but if you truly are not going to run for president, then don't continue to allow draft groups to buy ads in the New York Times and waste their money on radio ads in Florida.

That money could well be spent supporting ACTUAL DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES!
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:01 PM
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1. Really good point...If he respects his supporters he needs to say it soon. nt
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:10 PM
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8. And if he never does? Are you gonna turn on him for failing to spell it out in crayons for you?
Al has said multiple times that he has no interesting in running. What does he have to say?
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:14 PM
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11. Don't be an asshole.
This is 2+2=4. If Gore knows he's not going to run, he should prevent people from spending money trying to draft him instead of being vague about it. It needs no further explanation.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:27 PM
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14. What's so vague about "I have no plans on running"??
Maybe you need to stick to 1+1=2. You're not quite ready for 2+2 yet.

Keep it simple for now.

"I have no plans on being a candidate"

I've seen people try to justify it by saying all kinds of stuff about what "plans" means.

I have no plans on being a priest. What does that mean? It means I have no plans or intentions on it, therefore I never give it a second thought and it doesn't control my life. I have no plans on it... period.

BTW... people thought Nancy Pelosi was "just being coy" when she said impeachment was off the table before the elections. They tried to justify by saying that she couldn't run on an impeachment platform because it would make her look like she was trying to get herself into the White House.

How did that work out??

Al Gore is a busy man. He said he has no plans on running. He doesn't have time to call around and tell people how to spend their money.

I tell my family every year not to spend money on me for xmas or my birthday, but they do it anyways.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:31 PM
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16. "I have no plans..." does not equate to
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 09:32 PM by Texas Explorer
"I WILL NOT be seeking the office of President of the United States either voluntarily or as a result of draft efforts. Period."

Edited to add: He may very well NOT have plans to run, but that could change in an instant at any time.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:46 PM
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20. !
:spray: :rofl:

... and Nancy's still just being "coy", right?

Look, I'd like to see him run too, just for posterity and to regain his rightful place that was stolen from him in 2000, but I'm not holding my breath or holding him out as my last hope. You want someone just as progressive, if not MORE, than Gore? Put your support behind Dennis Kucinich. He could use your support right now.

And hey, if Gore decides to jump in, maybe he and Dennis could team up. I'd vote for them.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:53 PM
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23. It means the same freaking thing people it really does
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 09:54 PM by shadowknows69
Notice the usage of the word NO in the sentence. It more implies the negative than the positive.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:19 PM
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25. Kucinich is my choice in lieu of Gore. As for Gore/Kucinich...
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 10:22 PM by Texas Explorer
Right on!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:47 PM
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21. Why would he use more words and be less clear than "I will not run"? nt
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:31 PM
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17. Why is it Al's responsibility to think for people?
He hasn't been vague. This people refusing to acknowledge Gore's position.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:15 PM
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12. Lol. Welcome to DU. n/t
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:04 PM
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2. I guess you told him!
MKJ
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:05 PM
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3. He said he had no appetite for politics. How much clearer can he be?
He's not running, as much as I hate to face it.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:05 PM
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4. Excuse me!!!!!!!!!!!!l Al Gore has said it over and over and over
he's not going to run. He is not going to be in politics again. Why haven't you seen it.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:09 PM
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6. I have seen it. I've also seen the ad in the NYT that cost
thousands of dollars and now radio ads are running in Florida. I just think that he has been vague and so do the groups paying out big bucks for a draft campaign. He should make it clear to these organizations that they should redirect their funds to established candidates.

Or, better yet, endorse someone.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:30 PM
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15. He hasn't said "I will not run."
He has said "I have no plans to run." Enormous difference- of which he well aware.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:08 PM
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5. As Pink Floyd says" You'd Better RUN! n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:09 PM
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7. Why does this bother you so much? Why not just let us Gore people do "our thing"
because nobody's asking you to participate if you don't want to. :shrug:

Seems kind of strange the folks that keep harassing Gore to make a Shermanesque statement when it's the rest of us supporting him. Seems that so many want to get angry about whether Gore runs or not rather than focusing on their own candidate.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:13 PM
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10. Ummm....Gore IS my candidate. You missed my point. n/t
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:11 PM
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9. It's stupid for a politician to be totally unequivocal about future elections....
The most you'll get one to say is that he has no intention of running. That's a pretty strong statement, esp. when repeated over a period of 6 mos or more. And that's what Gore has done. He has furthermore stated that he has no intention of running for ANY office.

He got beaten badly. He went away to lick his wounds. And man, has he staged a comeback. He's riding high (top o'the world, ma! top o'the world!). He's got money, fame, global influence, several prestigious awards, and the ability to get a meeting with virtually anyone in the world on the issue dearest to his heart.

He is not going to risk LOSING again, and going back to where he was several years ago. He is NOT going to run against people he was on the ticket with a few years ago. He's just not. Maybe if it were likely that Hillary would bomb in the G.E., or some other catastrophe....maybe. And then, only maybe. But even then, maybe not.

It is in the event of the catastrophe is why politicians don't like to be overly definite. But he's been repeatedly clear...he has no intention of running for any office in the foreseeable future. Period. His close friends are convinced that he is not going to run.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:31 PM
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18. That's not true, because he used an unequivocal statement
in 2004. With the groundswell for him this time around, it is much more called for- IF he is not going to run- to make that clear.
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spirit of wine Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:16 PM
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13. People with brains try to avoid politics...
unfortunately, we are left with a government lead by those more than willing but less than able that only seem to have half-a-brain, for the most part.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:42 PM
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19. At least president ....Mario Cuomo.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:52 PM
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22. You people are starting to worry me
Al Gore probably doesn't want to be assassinated by the first Corporate rented hitman that can get near him. Who could blame him? I held out as long as I could hoping for it but you really should let go. I'll be the first one to buy DU a slice of Humble Crow Pie if he does change his mind, but I really think he meant it when he said "I have no plans to run" If he doesn't he probably couldn't pull off the win at this point anyway. The top three candidates are pretty well dug in at this point.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:13 PM
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24. "If he doesn't he probably couldn't pull off the win at this point anyway"
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 10:14 PM by Pastiche423
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:20 PM
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26. Don't do polls
and one that has Clinton at only 5% is suspect. I highly doubt Hillary will just dissapear off the map if Al declares.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:37 PM
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27. Keep up the denial
My DREAM is that is exactly what will happen once he enters.

Bye bye, Hillary.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:36 AM
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29. And there you have it.That is what this is all about
People who hate one other more than they really support him. He's just the pawn being used for their own hatred of another. Yes, so "politcal." If you think that is a good enough reason for him to run, you really do need to read his book again.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:30 AM
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28. Oh please, stop the guilt trips on him
He's speaking at the Green Bulgaria Conference in MARCH 2008. He's going to Spain to a conference discussing global warming and wine in FEBRUARY 2008. He will be going in JANUARY 2008 to accept the Gothenberg Prize, and in December this year to receive the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. And yet, you don't respect a man who has done so much by saying "Godammit" as if he OWES you something? If people can't freaking read and deduce like adults it isn't his problem or his fault. He also isn't stopping anyone from doing ANYTHING and never asked for anything either. I say, they all should just grow the hell up and let the man go about his business. But boy, I can sure see the worm turning here should they not get their definitive NO. They are just waiting to villify him to validate their own obsession. Besides, don't tell me these draft people don't enjoy the publicity. They seem to thrive on it by using his success to get themselves in the news.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:44 AM
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30. Ah jeez...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:46 AM
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31. jinx!
:D



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