We need a new SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE NOW!! Replace Nancy

[rateyes]

as SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. It's time to replace Nancy Pelosi, and time for the Democrats who feel the same way to stand up and start talking about it, on every damned talk show/forum we can go to.

My vote is for Maxine Waters. Anybody with me...I'll listen to your suggestions, too.

Nancy Pelosi is worse than useless...she's damaging this party. The Pete Stark vote and forced apology is the last straw for me.

[cali]

1. Well, that's a fruitless campaign.

We don't have a say in electing the leadership- and rightly so. It's our task to elect dems who represent us.

[rateyes]

2. Just like you Cali....afraid of striking out, so you

won't get in the batter's box and even try to hit a home run.

Cautious Cali....that's you. Bye, now.

[billyoc]

10. You don't get to vote on that. You'd have as much luck electing a new Supreme Court. n/t

[rateyes]

26. We can sure as hell put pressure on those who do get

to vote on that.

[cali]

11. Realism is not fear.

It's a fantasy to think that you can choose the leadership. The reps choose their own leadership. Seriously, how would it work if the dem rank and file had a say in electing the leadership?

[rateyes]

16. The people can elect those who would vote for someone else

Nancy, and her cowardice in leadership, needs to be an issue in the primaries for those running for Congress. If they won't replace her, then we'll replace them.

Now, I'll give you the final word you always want. Make it good.

[cali]

19. Sure, I'll take you up on that.

I agree with you. I think we should make Pelosi's lousy leadership an issue in the primaries. That's exactly where it should be addressed.

[madfloridian]

3. Ask me sometime how that works in Florida...getting people elected

who represent us.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1487

That's just one district. Lots of tales to tell.

[ThomCat]

17. If don't make any effort to influence their actions

and their goals then we're letting them get away with NOT representing us.

It's because they should be representing us that we need to put pressure on Pelosi. She's definitely a huge disappointment.

[LynneSin]

4. You'll get the same exact thing

Nancy is extremely progressive but the roll of these leadership position is to negotiate with the other side.

[rateyes]

13. Somehow I don't see Maxine Waters capitulating

to this kind of crapola. Nancy will be remembered for being the first woman speaker. She will also be remembered for a being a piss-poor speaker. She's worthless.

[LynneSin]

31. As much as I adore Maxine Waters I highly doubt she'd get the votes needed

for the position.

And yes, I think even if she did you'd see a different Waters then what you see today. The position is a crappy, thankless job where you're 'Damned if you do and damned if you don't'.

And consider this - if folks want to get rid of Nancy just because of the impeachment they're going after the absolutely wrong person. That's the job of the head of the Judiciary to start that ball rolling and yet I hardly doubt to see anyone bitch about booting John Conyers out of his position

[AllyCat]

33. That's hard to believe...Nancy P. "extremely progressive"

If negotiating with the other side means giving in to crap like this, censuring our own and those who typically support us while letting the other side get away with all kinds of hateful speech and well, murder, allowing the other side to continue to frame the debate, and then compromising with passing no meaningful legislation while holding open the taxpayers pocketbooks to let King George continue his reign of terror...good God, then I guess I have a really warped idea of what progressive means.

Did the last speaker do ANYTHING to negotiate with us? I can't think of a thing.

If this is leadership, we are in for big trouble real soon.

[Justitia]

5. I tend to think this is more of a Steny Hoyer thing than a Pelosi thing, JMO -eom

[Bluebear]

8. Good, get rid of both of them at the top.

[Justitia]

14. I also recall Pelosi didn't want Hoyer, she wanted Murtha. Just an observation. -eom

[robinlynne]

40. Then why did she choose Hoyer?

[Justitia]

41. She didn't. He was ELECTED by fellow mbrs in a secret vote. -eom

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. I'm with you, that's for surd

I'm tired of these suck puppets who lack a spine...

[Bluebear]

7. Maxine Waters in a heartbeat.

[EFerrari]

9. You know how I feel about Pelosi but, what Dem Speaker

can really lead with the DLC breathing down their neck? Because this little move reeks of the DLC to me and of their delusional way of protecting their candidate.

[flyarm]

27. DING DING DING!!..you win the prize!!!...eom

[EFerrari]

30. What have they ever done except sell out the party?

They take credit for electing Clinton but he could have got himself elected wearing a barrel and singing the score to "South Pacific".

lol

:hi:

[sharp_stick]

12. Yeah, it's not like it's not being talked about

only every third or forth thread around here it bitching about Pelosi/Reid/Clinton and any other Democrat you can think of. Shit, this place is looking more like freeperland every damned day.

[rateyes]

21. No, Pelosi and Hoyer and Company are looking

more like freepers every day.

[Justitia]

29. the Pelosi-Hoyer partnership is trouble. I get a strong "Steney stench" from this stuff.

I've been afraid of him undermining her since the beginning (since she very publicly wanted her friend Murtha).

I think Steney has been very successful at putting her front & center for the shitstorm, while he, as Majority Leader, works powerfully in the background at what may be crosspurposes.

They are very different "Democrats".

[KingFlorez]

15. Pelosi isn't going anywhere, so get over it

[rateyes]

22. I will not "get over it," and I will work to get her replaced

as Speaker, if not in this session, in the next. She's pitiful, and we deserve better.

[progpen]

32. We do deserve better,

but to do so, we need to defang the DLC and take back control of the Democratic party.

[rateyes]

35. Whatever it takes. nt

[mmonk]

18. I haven't liked her since right before the election

as she decided to take away the remedy of restoring my rights as a citizen through enforcment of the constitution. But there is one thing I have learned over these last few years. I am but a citizen who's rights and privileges are determined by people in power unless I find some way to change it. I've learned there is nothing we can do about it except to try and make their lives miserable through protest and harassment. I'm determined to continue to work towards that end.

[Gold Metal Flake]

20. Massive public protests by impeachment advocates and antiwar advocates...

would help convince the Speaker to pursue those issues. She is not our leader, she is a representative. Without a massive public movement, she will not step out of the cool, covered porch of her conservative positions and stand in the rain with us.

Tremendous pressure from the Mil/Corpo/Pol/Wealth complex is being exerted against our reps, especially the political leadership positions. The only way to counter that is to invoke our own kind of political fear. Massive, daily public protests, that is what must be done. That has not happened yet.

[rateyes]

24. I'm ready. I know one thing...she's going to get a helluva message

on her answering service in her San Francisco office. I had such high hopes for her. She talks tough. She treads lightly.

[flyarm]

28. i already called her DC office and raised holy hell! call her office! eom

[Rageneau]

25. We should sit outside her house and bang drums.

That's what the Freepers did to Gore, and what Freepers do to ANYBODY they're upset with.

So why should we behave like Freepers?

For the same reason that Freepers do -- to scare the Democratic leadership into submission.

[proud2BlibKansan]

39. There have been demonstrations

Pelosi is ignoring them. She also refuses to see most anti-war activists who come to her office. So I doubt even massive daily protests would get her attention.

Her constituents are camped out at her house in SF. Yet she still won't put impeachment back on the table.

Sorry but I don't think we wil ever change her mind.

[Devlzown]

23. Do you think they'll really give us Waters?

That's about as likely as Dennis Kucinich becoming the new Speaker. I'm not satisfied with Pelosi either, but she is a symptom, not the problem. The problem is that we keep electing DINOs and conservative Dems to Congress. As long as we do that, we will have those kinds of Democrats in leadership positions. Pelosi is one of the more liberal members of the House, but she is ineffective without backup. We're all going to have to get involved at the local level in order to get good candidates to run and then volunteer for those candidates so they will win. We have our work cut out for us.

[lonestarnot]

34. My straw broke a few weeks back.

[loudsue]

36. K & R You're absolutely correct, rateyes.

I can't stand it anymore. :cry:

[redacted]

37. HEAR HEAR! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. GET HER THE HELL OUT OF THERE

[Enrique]

38. Maxine Waters is a Pelosi tool!

she's a Pelosi symp!

Has she called for -- DEMANDED! -- Pelosi's replacement? Has she even criticized Pelosi for anything?

What's she AFRAID of!

Maxine Waters should get a spine! Get some balls! Stop kissing Pelosi's ASS!

:sarcasm: