General: Bush ordered 'torture' tactics himself

[Poiuyt]

New book says US uses 'methods of the most tyrannical regimes'

More than 100,000 pages of newly released government documents demonstrate how US military interrogators "abused, tortured or killed" scores of prisoners rounded up since Sept. 11, 2001, including some who were not even expected of having terrorist ties, according to a just-published book.

In Administration of Torture, two American Civil Liberties Union attorneys detail the findings of a years-long investigation and court battle with the administration that resulted in the release of massive amounts of data on prisoner treatment and the deaths of US-held prisoners.

"(T)he documents show unambiguously that the administration has adopted some of the methods of the most tyrannical regimes," write Jameel Jaffer and Amrit Singh. "Documents from Guantanamo describe prisoners shackled in excruciating 'stress positions,' held in freezing-cold cells, forcibly stripped, hooded, terrorized with military dogs, and deprived of human contact for months."

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Drawing almost exclusively from the documents, the authors say there is a stark contrast between the public statements of President Bush and then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the policies those and others in the administration were advocating behind the scenes.

President Bush gave "marching orders" to Gen. Michael Dunlavey, who asked the Pentagon to approve harsher interrogation methods at Guantanamo, the general claims in documents reported in the book.

The ACLU also found that an Army investigator reported Rumsfeld was "personally involved" in overseeing the interrogation of a Guantanamo prisoner Mohammed al Qahtani. The prisoner was forced to parade naked in front of female interrogators wearing women's underwear on his head and was led around on a leash while being forced to perform dog tricks.

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http://rawstory.com/news/2007/General_claims_Bush_gave_marching_orders_1022.html

[yellowcanine]

1. Nothing impeachable there of course.

:sarcasm:

[Bluebear]

2. Dear Ms. Pelosi: I'm sure there is a Dem you can censure if they are outraged by this

[tekisui]

3. War Crimes President! Get him goddamnit!!!

[Amonester]

4. Guilty of war crimes.

In all cases, but even more in these cases:

-> "abused, tortured or killed" scores of prisoners rounded up since Sept. 11, 2001, including some who were not even expected of having terrorist ties <-


"high crimes" there.

Can impeachment hearings begin now?

If not, when? :grr:

[Hydra]

5. I knew this went all the way to the top

it's nice that it's documented...but will anyone take him and his cadre to task for such blatant illegal behavior???

[soothsayer]

6. And what will come of this? can we say the "I" word yet please?

[Hubert Flottz]

7. Can I say The N word?

THey may not carry membership cards in the NAZI party but they play ball just like the GESTAPO...and they all follow every criminal order their court appointed Fuhrer issues.

[soothsayer]

9. Nuremberg? Sure!

[Disturbed]

8. Plausible Denial.

Until a doc surfaces with Busholini's verified sig. that details exact orders of Torture, nothing will
be done.

Even when Rumsfailed admitted publicly that he had violated the Geneva Conventions, nothing was done about it.

I have posted the following for a few years & even here, there were never any comments about it. Violations of the GC & the US Constiturion have become so normal that they no longer merit consideration.

Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm



Further Evidence Rumsfeld Implicated in War Crimes
Please read this important post by Marty Lederman, Army Confirms: Rumsfeld Authorized Criminal Conduct.

Here's a key section, but there's more:
The Army's charges against Jordan reflect the view, undoubtedly correct, that the use of forced nudity or intimidation with dogs against detainees subject to military control constitutes cruelty and maltreatment that Article 93 makes criminal. It doesn't matter whether they are or are not "torture," as such; nor does it matter whether the armed forces should be permitted to use such interrogation techniques: As things currently stand, they are unlawful, as even the Army now acknowledges.

But then how can we account for the actions of the Secretary of Defense and his close aides?

On November 27, 2002, Pentagon General Counsel William Haynes, following discussions with Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, General Myers, and Doug Feith, informed the Secretary of Defense that forced nudity and the use of the fear of dogs to induce stress were lawful techniques, and he recommended that they be approved for use at Guantanamo.
(The lists of techniques to which Haynes was referring can be found in this memorandum.) On December 2, 2002, Secretary Rumsfeld approved those techniques for use at Guantanamo -- and subsequently those techniques were used on detainee Mohammed al-Qahtani.

In other words, the Secretary of Defense authorized criminal conduct.

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Today's Army charge under UCMJ Article 93 against Lt. Col. Jordan -- for conduct that the SecDef actually authorized as to some detainees -- demonstrates that Rumsfeld approved of, and encouraged, violations of the criminal law.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2006/04/further_evidence_rumsfeld_implicated_in_war_crimes.html

[Poiuyt]

12. You have to remember that the standards for impeachment are different than for a criminal court

That said, you are right. Nothing will be done.

[Contrary1]

10. K & R

[Octafish]

11. Twisted War Criminals

The ACLU also found that an Army investigator reported Rumsfeld was "personally involved" in overseeing the interrogation of a Guantanamo prisoner Mohammed al Qahtani. The prisoner was forced to parade naked in front of female interrogators wearing women's underwear on his head and was led around on a leash while being forced to perform dog tricks.

Rumsefeld reported to Bush. And, of course, Cheney.

[lala_rawraw]

13. I think that

the word "killed" pretty much has summarized my deepest fear about what they were doing. i am going through book... will report back the horror.

[Disturbed]

14. Any US Prison that does no allow the Red Cross to inspect

is in violation of the GC & Intnl. Law. There are a few of those. The Busholini Regime is a Criminal Regime. The Congress knows this but refuses to act upon their duty.